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Posts with Links and nothing else.
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User Comments
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I don't actually read stuffs like these when I try to join any online discussions. But, after reading these guidelines it all makes sense to me now. Does a warning option before removal of account applies here? I personally hate spammers which usually floods the discussions with massive & very annoying links. These guidelines are quite strict but I am totally agree with it. Thanks.
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Good. But how do you force all to read this?
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@lola - but then spamming can get a tad irritating...
but i have a question. I've often seen "please digg me, stumble me, etc request" from long time members. Yesterday I posted a thread asking for comments on and stumbling on a friends article posted on my blog (if liked).
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If you scroll up to the OP you will find this:
Link Requests / Exchanges
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@timethief
see where you're coming from TT. but it wasn't a request for links (unless I'm not understanding the term 'links'?)... not sure. It was for people to look at an article and comment on it if they liked it, or stumble it.
I've truly seen very similar threads coming specifically from Pointless Banter and Anok (both are friends of mine so not pointing fingers, just looking for clarity).
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@lillymouse
Groups for link exchange. This is the link provided in the OP for link exchanges. www.blogcatalog.com/groups/popular/
By typing "digg" and "stumbleupon" into the Group Search box we discover these links to groups
www.blogcatalog.com/group/stumble
www.blogcatalog.com/group/digg-exchange
www.blogcatalog.com/group/digg-it
Note that the ToS of the particular social network may have contract terms that prohibit such exchanges being made.
Re: posting a link drop thread and begging for comment exchanges - see the OP heading Posts with Links and nothing else.
What I understand the guidelines to mean is that posts made to the General discussion forum ought to be made for the purpose of initiating discussion. IMO creating a thread that says here's my link, drop your link, visit my blog and comment, and I'll visit yours and comment too, amounts to creating a link drop thread that is not intended to initiate discussion.
For definitive answers to such questions one ought to contact Admin www.blogcatalog.com/contact/
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Excellent! They're good guidelines -- not just for posting, but also to inform the community about exactly which kinds of behaviors are "reportable."
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Good advice. Its a shame we can't expect civility, respect, courtesy, politeness, good hearty debate as a matter of course between intelligent human beings...
lawlessness (i.e. being without laws) sadly seems like a Utopian dream...-
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I don't know about the 'sadly' part, myself. But then, I didn't think all that much of the tune out, etcetera, aspect of the sixties, either.
On the positive side, laws (rules might be a better word), in my opinion, help people deal with each other, by defining how we may act.
Remember, "civility" is a set of rules, too.
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Crap... "You can link to your blog or another website, however it needs to be as a reference, not as the primary purpose of the post."
Opps, sorry about that... I think I usually post a link as a reference but I was wrong on a couple occasions. I'll try to keep myself contained! -
When this discussion was evolving several weeks ago, before the religion fiasco, I seem to recall a caution about sexual topics given that we have middle-schoolers in our midst. That didn't make it to the final guidelines, and there seems to be a proliferation of "talk about your sex life" topics on the main boards recently. Admin? What's the "rule" on the issue?
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I like this, but I still do find the 'post with links' rule to be confusing. As I look thru just the first 2 pages of posts on the discussion board right now I see lots of posts that would seem to fall into this category ... the main purpose is to get people to go to their blog to read or do something.
I've often thought of starting a discussion, but I keep stopping myself because I'm still unclear as to the rules. Can anyone make this less fuzzy for me? Thanks! -
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Thought I'd add the most recent no signature threads here for future reference, since I'm still seeing link signatures now and again.
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/do-you-think-this-is-spamming
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I find many comments where at the end of the comment the user has given link to their blog and this link no way adds value to the subject/topic of the discussion.This links are not removed.And the links which are really helpful and related to the what is asked for in the discussion , are removed.
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Adding following to my earlier comment.
Please check www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/is-america-exceptional
The first comment in this blog has a link to one blog , does this blog is related to discussion "Is America exceptional?". Please note that i am not complaining against any blogger.
Blogcatalog guidelines tell "You can link to your blog or another website, however it needs to be as a reference, not as the primary purpose of the post."
Now in many discussions there are link to blogs at the end of the comment which are not related or reference for the discussion topic.Those are just links wrapped in few words, and not related to discussion.
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I guess it's safe to assume that since I no longer see my disscussion post, I violated the policy... Sorry about that, now I know...:-)
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I've already demonstrated that these rules have virtually no meaning. It seems, when one makes a joke about another that goes a bit awry and is misunderstood by some regular community members, that somehow they get a free pass when it comes to attacking the original poster.
Either it's applied across the board or not. Mob mentality might be a great comfort for the paranoid, insecure types amongst us but, over the long haul, it prevents any real high level discussions from taking place because the right atmosphere for true learning is not where one has to walk on eggshells.
So here's a reminder to the weak and insecure who find solace in attacking by numbers even for light misunderstandings, if you don't like a thread then stay the **** out of it. Chances are, without your cowardly pile-on attack, the thread will die. If you jump in as some heroic defender of someone who, quite likely, never asked for your meager protection in the first place, then the one thing you can be assured of is that it will continue.
And if that kind of justification for the very same illicit behavior described in the original post is not addressed then, underneath all the polite, ceremonious sticky-posts, no one will really be able to trust what is promised around here. -
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Sheesh ... perhaps I'm thin skinned but I find the post above yours to be offensive.
scattergun approach
broad sweeping generalizations
unsubstantiated by facts or links
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@Timethief: Sam thinks the only way to get attention and be relevant is to be rude and stir the pot. He doesn't accept any of the premises of the rules here. Notice how he mischaracterized your reaction in a further attempt to bait. On some forums this passes as dialog, but those aren't places I want to frequent.
I have no idea why he's back only a month after starting a major flame war and getting the boot. Maybe someone at the BC switchboard was asleep.
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Very interesting. Great guidelines!
But...
Can I still get visits to my cool website? :-)
I guess so...
Yeah!!! - BlogCatalog.com rocks!!!
Rio
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I just noticed I had to check a box saying I'd read these things before posting my thread. Not a bad idea.
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Had to leave a comment on this because I was feeling too guilty with carkian's kid staring down at me while I sip my wine...
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I don't like the recent misogyny I'm seeing on BlogCatalog.
Exhibit A: misterDog's comments on www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/should-a-man-hit-a-woman-back-in-self-def...
Exhibit B: SpeedWalter here: www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/men-only-women-wont-be-able-to-understand...
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Mark, obviously given my responses in the first thread, I agree with you generally--but I think the existence of that thread is a spin-off from my inquiry to Anok yesterday in another thread, where she'd mentioned Sean Connery and I asked whether she wasn't bothered by his controversial statements on the sometime "need" to slap a woman.
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I did not realize how sensitive this community is. I will refrain from mean spirited and inflammatory comments in the future. I apologize for my violations this morning.
Why are the retaliatory mean spirited comments thrown at me forgiven, or not even considered wrong, man-hating? Just wondering. I perceive a double standard.
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Do people need to certify that they are a certain age before they sign up? Maybe they should have to. Blogger Meghna has been a wonderful community member, and her parents supervise her online activities, but that is not always the case.
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www.kablinga.com/Default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 This site has parental sign up for kids in that age group or maybe this is a crazy idea have a BC kids site that only kids can use.
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I wondered about that. I hoped that people needed to show they were age appropriate for the discussion topics.
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Blog Catalog is an American company and COPPA applies. But it must be understood that there is no way of verifying someone clicking an I'm age 13 or older box is actually 13 or older. The only way such verification could be achieved would be to gain access to private information. This issue is complex.
It seems the underlying reasons these issues have arisen are four-fold:
(1) The freewheeling uncensored and accessible nature of internet technology.
(2) The fact that many parents are exercising no supervision over their childrenâs use of the internet.
(3) The fact that both children and adults impersonating children, including sexual predators, are not using the internet responsibly.
(4) The fact that despite COPPAâs protections, there is a thriving list brokerage industry that targets children.
www.coppa.org/comply.htm
The best protection that we adults can provide for young bloggers is to advise them never to reveal their ages or any other personally identifiable information online. However, children learn by what we do and by not what we say. Consider how relationships are formed on social networks forums. We ask each other personal questions. We seek to identify with one another by exchanging information that can be used to locate us.
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the guidelines are reminders and a welcome addition. thanks bc.
can you please clarify "comment removed by the community" really means "comments removed by bc moderator(s)
i don't support the pg-13 rating, i never go to pg-13 movies. let's be broad minded about some threads. for example, we are used to seeing the "f" word on cable, the daily newspapers. it comes down to context. if content is over the top it should get enough flags to warrant the moderator(s) to pull it.
there are three underage bloggers that are quite engaging and provocative. they respond when questioned that they are closely monitored by their parents. Meghna is a good example. Hate to see her not be able to participate but also would hate that our content be dialed down knowing that she is there.
my site has literary content that can be gross, violent, adult language ( meghna had a poem about dreaming her cat was trapped in a clothes dryer ) a very dark but perfectly funny and appropriate poem. these kinds of posts are preceded by warnings of the upcoming content. timethief serves up great guidelines for minors.
signature links are offputting though after one gets to know the blogger it is NBD. a spammer is a spammer regardless of their methods.
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I have certain grievances with the blogcatalog and want to clarify through email but email provided as webmaster[at]blogcatalog.com. does not work . I am trying to send mail for the last three days but everytime failure repot comes .If some one can tell me correct/working email id of blogcatalog.
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Is there a rule about having to base threads on facts? Or can people just slander politicians, make up facts as they go along, etc? Just curious. I'm just about at that point where anyone can spread any lie they want here. Takes too much energy to police all the garbage.
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Dunno what I said. Since I'm pretty careful, that's kinda funny. Bet it won't stop some people from complaining of BC favoritism though.
Edited to add: Actually, it's coming back to me. I think I said something like "don't flatter yourself" in response to the implication that there was a secret email campaign against these guys. Must've used a few other choice words too, though. Or is the previous phrase really offensive?
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rules suggestions
from RichRF and Gmoney
From Gmoney
I think that BC would benefit from a "HIDE a Member" or "Block a Member" or "Ignore a Member" button. This button would allow an offended blogger to hide/block/ignore a offending blogger. The offending would be someone that the offended thought was offensive, disruptive, or simply someone the offended did not agree with. You press the hide/block/ignore button and you will not see any discussions that the offending person started or participated in.
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richrf
Hi,
I would make these suggestions:
1) Anything discussion having to do with rules, should be in a separate group, (which I think can be set up, to the best of my understanding). I suggest this, so that the owners of the forum, can visit it when they have time, and also, it is a way of organizing the discussion to present to the owners. Since this is a very repetitive topic, it is good to have it separate and organized.
2) All discussions relating to sex or any blue material should be placed in a separate group, since it may offend minors, and I understand this forum is intended to be PG. Correct me if I am wrong.
3) If someone does not like a discussion, then they should not participate in the discussion, which would only encourage the discussion, by placing it at the top of the front page.
4) Any time someone reports a discussion, that person must cite the rule that the discussion is breaking, and they must announce it on the discussion thread so that people can learn why the thread is considered out-of-bounds.
I hope that these set of suggestions helps the process along.
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I like both of your ideas.. especially #4 of Rich's comments:
4) Any time someone reports a discussion, that person must cite the rule that the discussion is breaking, and they must announce it on the discussion thread so that people can learn why the thread is considered out-of-bounds.
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You are so freaking obsessed with WHO hit the report button, LOL. It's comical! You're missing who does the removing. The ADMINS remove stuff and as to why it's removed, read the TOS or email the Admins and ask them. Individuals CANNOT get something removed. But hey, I don't have a problem telling someone I plan to report what they say and have done so. But then again, who cares? The admins can choose to ignore my clicking of the report button.
And actually, you don't already know who pushes the buttons, you just think you know. I believe that those of us who'll argue a point in a thread are less likely to hit the report button. I've only hit it a few times and they were in very obvious situations. -
"It would be VERY amusing, insightful and educational to see the real identity of those button pushers (as if we don't already know) and their reason for doing so."
I did that today. Were you amused? It did not lead to a forum fight in the thread. But I predict that if this silliness was adopted by Admin that there will be out and out fighting in forum threads. More to the point, who will police those who push the button without writing a dissertation as to why they did so?
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Number 4 is a pretty stupid rule. I mean if a thread gets nuked look at the rules. Usually you can apply the rules to the thread and figure out why it was banned. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. If you can't figure it out at that point you probably shouldn't post here because you don't have the ability to use logic or reason.
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Re: reply to gmoney www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/read-before-posting-1#comment_421949
"@timethief that is a not a surprise..... no support, just more talk and disruption. But hey got to love your gumption. I am trying to understand what is your motive? What is your goal?"
I consider your remarks to be a personal attack. I clicked the report button yesterday and note with displeasure that your post is still here today.
"more talk and disruption"
(1) You failed to define in what way you find my contributions to be "disruptive".
(2) In case you have not noticed, Admin is not conducting a rule change process. It does seem that you and others have usurped Admin's functions and contrived your own process.
motive and goal
I joined BC for the purpose of promoting my blog and my motive for doing that is to increase traffic to them. Without doubt, I am mindful that every piece of content that appears on my blogs becomes a part of the makeup and the âbrandâ of that blog. Therefore I examine each comment in terms of how the comment affects the brand. If the comment adds nothing meaningful to the discussion and is simply a link drop attempt or, if it contains defamatory or inflammatory content or, if it contains obscenities I delete it and blog on.
opinion
I would suggest that the approach I take with regard to preserving the "brands" of my blogs is analogous to the approach BC Admin probably uses to preserve the BC brand. IMO the General Discussion forum on the front page of BC does not enhance the BC brand as the most controversial posts on politics and religion are bound to appear there and, as I do not blog on either of those topics this featuring is not likely to draw in the kind of bloggers that I hope will visit my blogs and become faithful readers of them.
"no support"
See (2) above. I repeat that BC Admin is not conducting a rule review process and I'm astonished that any small group, who appears to have usurped Admin's functions and role would expect my support or the BC member's support for doing so.
Currently, any BC member can make suggestions directly to Admin and if and when they choose to post them here, to a forum post or, in a blog post, then other members BC have the option of reviewing the suggestions made and expressing their response to them. No single member has been endowed with more influence than any other member.
The suggested rules commence with:
1) Anything discussion having to do with rules, should be in a separate group, (which I think can be set up, to the best of my understanding). I suggest this, so that the owners of the forum, can visit it when they have time, and also, it is a way of organizing the discussion to present to the owners. Since this is a very repetitive topic, it is good to have it separate and organized.
I am now resigned to accepting the fact that the General Discussion threads will be appearing on the BC front page. However, this suggestion contemplates the formation of an influential group, who will first usurp the function and role of Admin when it comes to announcing that a rule review is underway. The formation of such an influential group would likely dilute the import of what any individual member may have to contribute directly to Admin. Conversely, it proposes the reduction of individual input opportunities at the receiving end ie. Admin to a mish mash characteristic of committee input.
As Admin appear to be committed to featuring General Discussion posts on the front page suggested rule 1) can immediately be seen as being incongruent with this practice. It suggests that discussions about rules ought to be swept into group, while leaving the General Discussion posts that give rise to concern and lead to calls for more rules on the BC front page!
The second suggested rule is:
2) All discussions relating to sex or any blue material should be placed in a separate group, since it may offend minors, and I understand this forum is intended to be PG. Correct me if I am wrong.
BC is a business. Admin alone are possessed the authority responsibility and authority to make this rule and to enforce it but have previously chosen not to do so.
The third suggested rule is:
3) If someone does not like a discussion, then they should not participate in the discussion, which would only encourage the discussion, by placing it at the top of the front page.
Could â would - should
All member of any social network always have this option. At any point in time in any social network members âcouldâ post or not post as they so choose. In essence, this is suggestion amounts to introducing and compelling a form of censorship that ought not to be tolerated. Any member ought to be able to choose whether or not to post a dissenting or supportive comment to any thread at any point in time. The suggestion that the option be replaced with a âshouldâ which is to say a âruleâ means that Admin would be in the unenviable position of having to enforce it
The third suggested rule is:
4) Any time someone reports a discussion, that person must cite the rule that the discussion is breaking, and they must announce it on the discussion thread so that people can learn why the thread is considered out-of-bounds.
I consider the preoccupation of the "who pushed the button" set to be obsessive, unhealthy and not conducive to creating a better forum environment. IMO the likely result of trying to implement such a rule would be firstly, to deter some of the less assertive members away from reporting. In addition it would lead back and forth personal battles between more assertive and or aggressive individuals taking place in forum threads and steering them off course, away from the topic at hand. Lastly, this yet another compelling suggestion, that is once again, unenforceable.
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I am guessing that the Admins did not take my statement as a personal attack.
If you consider "@timethief that is a not a surprise..... no support, just more talk and disruption. But hey got to love your gumption. I am trying to understand what is your motive? What is your goal?"
a personal attack then I am wondering what kind of civil forum you would support. I made a statement and questioned your motives and your goal. My perception is that you are disruptive and for some reason you enjoy pointing out when people are "wrong" or doing what you consider "wrong".
Believe it or not you Motive and your Goal is being accomplished. Regardless of our disagreements, I respect you and your ideas and that spurred me to look at your blog.
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Once again, you failed to define in what way you find my contributions to be "disruptive". That statement felt like a personal attack and at the very least it remains an unsubstantiated allegation. Now that I see that reporting unsubstantiated allegations will not result in deletion by Admin, I'll most assuredly keep that in mind when drafting my future comments. -
So far you have called Americans and bloggers on blogcatalog fools and fuckwits. That is rather offensive and disruptive. Discussing politics, religion or other topics you disagree with is not grounds to call names. Yet you appear to sit on this HIGH HORSE and criticize because you do not agree. That is disruptive.
Yes topics on the discussions board will retread because each blogger has there own take on any issue and the discussion that was started may not be sufficient to their point of view. Again I have nothing against you or your posts or your views. But take a moment and look in the mirror.
This is a community of individuals. The more rules we have the more diluted, boring and useless the discussion board will be.
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@gmoney
Thanks for the clarification. For the record, I ONLY called those American bloggers, who were posting threads with titles such as "Should the US invade Pakistan?", and those who posted political threads that featured racist and misogynistic statements, as well as, those who posted threads featuring religious bigotry, under the banner of free speech - names.
The threads in question have been deleted by Admin and I believe that would not have taken place if they had been appropriate.
I acknowledge that this in no way excuses me for name calling and, for that loss of control, I sincerely apologize to all the OTHER American bloggers, who do not have a pattern of posting inflammatory threads.
Example: should-obama-continue-to-hide-from-the-american-people
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Given the unhealthy obsession with who reports what that I have noticed of late, I have to wonder at what point this feature becomes counter-productive for BC, since it might just alienate a lot of folks who don't get it. I sure would prefer old-fashioned moderation, that is, someone from BC whose job it is to go through here and excise unacceptable posts. Of course, even then the report button might have to stay, but then there might be less use of it.
Frankly, though, I'm baffled by the lack of understanding for how it works, even among a few longtime users, since BC staff repeatedly explain it on different threads when asked. It's as if the report button is creating mini BC conspiracy theories. That can't be good.
Edited to add: The problem with BC relying on users to report bad stuff is it sets up an unnecessary us-against-them dynamic. Whether this is in the nature of the button itself or if it has to do with inadequate communication by BC staff is another matter.-
It is a no win situation and I think the current way it is set up is fair as it is going to get.
It isn't like BC is going to pay someone to moderate. That is just ridiculous, myspace doesn't even do that. They have super users that have the power to delete threads and ban people.
All the reporting button does now is alert them which makes sense.
The people that think that this reporting leads to some kind of conspiracy or that they are being targeted are frankly idiots. The community would be better off without people who can't understand how the reporting works or why things are deleted. If they think the setup is so unfair... leave. -
You're probably right, Kevin, but the current situation makes my spending any more time trying to make it better appear nonsensical. I explain at more length in this post, "When Good Forums Lose Their Appeal." markstoneman.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/when-good-forums-lose-their-appeal/
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Maybe I didn't write carefully enough. My main message in that piece is supposed to be that I don't think helping to police this place is worth the effort (for me) anymore. Is that splitting hairs too much for your taste? Or maybe you didn't read it? Your good right of course. Can comment anyway. Why not?
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@pointlessbanter
Re: www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/read-before-posting-1#comment_421220
Hear! Hear!
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is this a real conversation or just the mock-up version guys?
A Question
pointless you mention "super users" are you of the opinion that is the way to go? (assuming a variation of that isn't already happening at BC)
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An Observation
"When Good Forums Lose Their Appeal" assumes the forum was good instead of better to begin with.
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No I without a doubt don't think a super users thing is the way to go. Around here it would create a giant bitch fest. People would be complaining and accusing others on what was deleted.
I think the current system is fine. People just need to get over getting a thread or a post deleted. I have had plenty deleted in my time on here and it doesn't cause me to get my panties in a bunch. It isn't really worth it... it is a forum on the internet. -
@ kevinatserieatalk You joined after the rules came into existence, so you can only use your imagination about how things were before. The vast majority of those of us who were here were glad to see the things come. This thread looks so short, because it was the final version of these rules. The first drafts received a lot of attention.
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you totally reported my last response to this thread didn't you?
I know you organized an e-mail campaign to have people vote this thread as offensive. I HATE YOU ALL.
All you old timers are against us newbies and want us gone. power to the people
(sorry I just wanted to see how dumb that looked in print)
I am writing a comment on your blog post right now... This is just a cyclical thing which will blow over in a few days until it comes up again in like october
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Link Requests / Exchanges
Exchange requests & link requests of any type aren't allowed in the discussions.
I see this all the time and I do not understand how the rules apply...
"I want to comment on your blog"
"I will Stumble your blog..."
"Could you leave your Blog Address here..."
Those are three on the first page of discussions I checked at the time - I don't get it, are these wrong? or are they OK
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Tony posted another reason for the removal of threads that I think ought to go here. Until that happens, I'm linking the thread where he announced it: www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/removal-of-threads It addresses, "the repetition of unfounded accusations against the community, other members and the admins." Figure we might want to find it in future.
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There is no limit. However, anyone who truly cares about others, who are actually trying to utilize Blog Catalog for it's intended purpose would not have 6 threads going at the same time, claiming she that she was posting them because she was "bored" at work. Surely you can see that the front page has very few spaces on it and here you are creating multiple threads and even duplicates to spam the forum with. Where is your consideration for others?
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Lotusub. You push it and there will be. Most people know that etiquette matters.
I've also seen people delete duplicate threads. Two of yours are duplicates. One asks how to improve your blog. And one asks what we think. That's abusing the boards. It's spamming them. It goes against the general intent above, which talks about a little thing called *discussion*.
Man am I tired of having to clarify this stuff. Guess this is a new one for them to add to the list and maybe add to their software too.
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While i am hoping that was a rhetorical question, I'll answer you anyway...
Unfortunately, there are some users who show a total disrespect for the community and are constantly finding new ways to abuse or spam the discussions. For these reasons we have to enforce rules on a case by case basis.
The items in the discussion are merely guidelines to achieve healthy discussion as it impossible to preconceive every possible abuse scenario. If a discussion is spam, violates our terms of service, or goes against the guidelines above there is a great chance it will be removed.
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I WONT CALL IT CENSORING, BUT A LINE DRAWN AS A GUIDE LINE, TO MAINTAIN A DIGNIFIED DECORUM, IN SPITE OF THIS, STILL UNDESIRED TOPICS ARE BEING DISCUSSED, WHICH SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
THANKS:- PRAKASH.-
@pdeshp07
Why are you SHOUTING? (shouting = typing in all capital letters). Maybe you didn't know that shouting is really off-putting and is considered to be rude.
If you have subjects that you do not wish to see discussed on the General Discussion forum then please submit them to Admin for their consideration. Here's a link to TonyB's shoutbox www.blogcatalog.com/user/TonyB
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Hi everyone... All we want here is to create a friendly atmosphere where we try to harmonize and collaborate through exchange of ideas and opinions. Conflicts of interest and ideas may de arise on the process because of free speech and individual's own taste, but for as long we criticize/write about things in a constructive and not defamatory to anyone, i guess we on the right track.
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Hello, I realize you eliminated the link as a marketing link, I am curious though. How do you talk about a new product without making it a marketing statement. I wanted to talk about a green personal computer. I guess I have to use the non-main forums. There is a slight problem with this decision, you allow discussions of iphone, ipod, and other specific products. Because this is a startup company, even mentioning the product would be considered advertising.
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Hi, my name is Kevin Goodman and I like BC because it offers interaction from a diverse group with diverse views and um, ah, yea
Oh, and I suffer from a compulsion disorder - herein exampled
And I like the offendedblogger, stoneman, and the Goodknife (sometimes) but I am worried that anok is trying to assisinate me and I suspect Kdawg is a secret mafiosa. -
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I kinda cracked up when I read these rules considering they start with this phrase, "The BlogCatalog community believes very passionately in free speech" but then go on to say that profanity is not allowed. lol
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I read the second sentence and I'm not suggesting that excessive profanity should be allowed here, I'm just pointing out the irony of the statement. And just how does profanity make a site any less beneficial, less safe or disparaging?
DrowseyMonkey, are you clear on what "free speech" means?
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Interpreting "free speech" as a free for all in any and every situation is a common misnomer.
Yell "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater, and see what happens when they find out it was you.
Freedom of speech means the freedom to express ideas, opinions, and have discussions without fear of retribution for the content of said speech, with certain exceptions.
Slander, Libel, and speech to incite are all punishable by law, and private law suits.
Profaning all over BC could damage BC's reputation, and thus cause a loss of revenue, thus caused damages thus leaving the profane responsible for such damages, legally speaking.
Not that the Admin would pursue members legally for for using one of the seven deadly words - but legally speaking, it is possible - thus no, profanity is not generally covered under "free speech". Neither is hate speech, inflammatory speech, or spamming.
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A new draft of the rules should mention that the groups do not exist for shameless promotion of unrelated posts, otherwise known as spam. I've been seeing way too much of that lately.
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Okay, apparently the following clear text needs further clarification or emphasis: "You can link to your blog or another website, however it needs to be as a reference, not as the primary purpose of the post." One blogger things adding his feed link is okay. Another blogger I've seen use his link as a signature over and over again.
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I always wish there was a "see removed comments option" since I'm always so curious about what kind of offensive stuff people said....
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Tell me if I am being patient or simple. I got attacked on first day (first time ever in any social site I have participated; left me with a bad taste at the end of the day) and still have not reported. I even asked for advice if I should. We all want to be taken seriously for our work, and that's why our blogs have to be reviewed (for 48hours) before we get accepted here.
If we are proud of our work, then we should give due respect to other blogs, not spit the dummy and hurt each other. What if the person sitting behind the computer is a widow, handicap, just lost a relative in a plane crash? Or just joined the blogging community because he has nowhere to go to earn money? Nobody needs to know this, yet relationship with bloggers is something as precious as your next door neighbour.
Freedom of speech does not mean we have the liberty to step on each other's toes. Inspire and motivate, all good will be rewarded in abundance.
Thanks @dorion66, I have said my peace for now.
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Last night I payed for 12 months of Sponcership. It shows that I have 372 days left.
I'm a tad confused about the shortened year. But I'm also wondering when the button gets added to my profile.
I'd e-mail the webmaster, but the e-mail form used for that is not yet configured in my computer. I just ain't that savvy!
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Just joined Blog catalog and for some reason I can not put external links in my discussion comments or broadcasts. Is there a time limit or number of comments I have to have in order to put links on my comments? All I am allowed to do is "some HTML allowed: img code em strong ul ol li" does anyone have any pointers or answers.
For example, how is TonyB able to put a link on his post and I am not? Not complaining just asking.
Thanks a Million,
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you simply have to insert the http:// link and we will automatically convert it to a hyperlink. anchor tags are not allowed.
www.blogcatalog.com/
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Thanks thegoodknife, I am going to give it a shot - www.blogcatalog.com//user/Tabsf
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Uffff If I had read it before. I had another blog before than the current one. It was very nice for me and maybe for all the people who read it. However one day I found a post quite offensive and attacking me directly. The post was anonym and very hard. Reading the words I understood that the guest really known me because, in addition, he sent greetings to my mom !!! Well, short tale: the anonym wrote that I was a lying, cynical, manipulating, etc. Finally he (or she) asked God forgive me because I am so bad person. Well, now I know that at least my Blogs make grow energies... for good or evil, but growing anyway. Thanks for the intro.
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No Spam?!? How can I get rich from the internet then? By joining this community of fellow bloggers and using their insights and opinions to guide me while reciprocating the same where I can in a polite, honest social network?
How quaint.
Seriously (my blog is a humorous one - in theory), I take a dim view on spaming, as I describe in this article ...
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I might as well cast myself to this endless entry...I am actually been reading regularly to those guidelines since last year I affiliate myself to blog catalogue. It was actually a develop habit 12years ago I started as entrepreneur of my own business. I appreciate how you say it...The guts.. admirable.
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@ppruel
What a rude and unfair thing to say. I've been here since March and I've always found all four Admin members to be friendly, polite and very helpful. You've arrived and in 1 day you came to this offbeat conclusion. The truth is that your fixation on posting sex threads is out of step with this user community so perhaps it's you that ought to move on. Forums for people who are into sex are prolific so I'm quite sure that it won't be difficult for you to locate them. -
i disagree ppruel, the admins here are pretty nice, If it was my site I'd ban most of the users, including myself a few times...
Like the time I posted the whole Buddhist text of the Dhamapada and it was in the wrong discussion... but I reported myself and they were very nice about it
They wished me happy new year last year and have always been courteous. I don't agree with something but that seems quite reasonable to disagree.
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perfectly reasonable I thought.......I was once removed from a forum for being 'too bizarre', nothing more, then that really annoyed me and I was most certainly banned after that because of the spineless moderators who simply could not get over themselves. I have found blog catalog users and moderators very good so far....keep up the good work all!!!!
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I agree with you.And I maintain this in my blog(financefacts.blogsome.com/) also.
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Does this mean that the shameless blog promotion discussion board, shouldn't have links? I'm confused. Please help!
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@clayman
No Admin does not inform users before deleting posts. Ours is a social forum. All threads belong to the community and not to the person who posted them. The guidelines are posted and we are expected to respect them. If we make comments and they are reported Admin deletes them without notice. If threads become so contentious that the multiple personal insults are exchanged Admin does not waste their valuable time sorting which comments to delete and notifying anyone, they delete the thread and that's that.
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@arlanhas
There are over 80,000 bloggers registered at BC and very few of them expend their time and energy entertaining newcomers in the General Discussion forum. Most members are actually busy promoting their blogs within the BC community by leaving meaningful comments on posts and creating "blog centered relationships" with members who have related blogs.
If you are fed up with talking to the same people in the General Discussion forum, then I'll be willing to place a bet that you do not use the search facilities and features and network effectively within the BC community. Idly chatting the hours away is not a very effective networking technique. If you would like help then please use my shoutbox so I can give you a hand with learning how to network effectively.
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Thats right everyone, did you learn something Joey
we just have to have encourage one another here and help each other out if you have good concern of making money on your blog and sense of humor to share, then this is the right place to have a fun. Have a great day
and God Bless us all.
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Cool rules, so instead, it seems, we'll all just post our thanks here in order to get our names in the sticky post?
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I joined blogcatalog a few months back but did not know it had so many features ... I started participating yesterday when I read in John Chow's blog about it ... I think this is the collest Blog Directory ...
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drjay check this out tinyurl.com/8b8ktk
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yesterday i was searching some important topic on my carrier and studies i was searching all through the night but frankly saying i was unable to search the desired and correct objective for it but i was fooled. can you suggest me any important search engine other than google,yahoo,msn,windows live please help me
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I have never seen so many "comment removed by community" lines in a thread before... You guys must be nasty
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Well i first made such mistake in a forum and although my thread was not deleted , i got some really tough advices from others. So after that time i always like to read guidelines and rules of a forum first. Guidelines of blogcatalog are too good as they clearly tells you ,how can you paste a link here and how you cannot. Must read for everyone.




























































































































































































































































































