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Satan, Lucifer, The Devil, The Dark Lord, Lilith, Demons, Hell, Gehenna
Posted by Jeunelle • 4/08/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: demons, gehenna, hell, lilith, Lucifer, Satan, the dark lord, the devil, the serpend
Do you believe in Satan?
Do you believe in Lucifer?
Do you believe in the Devil?
Is Satan, Lucifer and the Devil the same being?
Have you ever seen any of them?
Do you worship "the Dark Lord"?
Do you or have you ever attended a Satanic Mass?
Have you ever or do you read the Satanic Bible?
Do you believe in going to Hell?
Is Hell and Gehenna the same?
Who is Lilith in the Bible?
Do you believe in Demons and have you ever seen a Demon?
Disclaimer: Jeunelle got tired & bored with all the "God" discussions lately,
Jeunelle decided to bring out "the dark lord" up for discussion, so drop what you know. 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=34NTNayDfFI
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Who is this Devil anyways?
What is all this talk about the Devil?
Are you afraid of the big bad Devil?
The face of the the Devil
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhuPLcJE9us&NR=1-
actually this is Satan
www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGBlDn_yiI
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The satanic bible and satanism has nothing to do with Satan/devil/lucifer, it is an atheistic religion and is called 'satanism' to put itself in direct contradiction to christianity.
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Right on, correct
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Uh, no.
"Atheistic religion" is an oxymoron. Atheism = no god = nothing to worship = no religion.
The very word "atheism" literally means "without god." You cannot have a religion without something imbued with godlike qualities to be the lawgiver and/or object of devotion. It is therefore impossible for those who have no belief in god/gods to have a religion. Atheism is not a belief system, it is a lack of belief in the existence of god/god.
Satanism holds a belief in the existence of Satan. It's adherents worship Satan. Satanism, therefore, is a religion. Satanists are not atheists. Satanism, because it believes Satan...a being with supernatural powers...to exist, by definition cannot be described as atheistic.
Why is the basic concept of atheism so difficult for people to grasp? It is bone-simple: atheism is a lack of belief in god(s). That's it. -
Atheistic Satanists are atheists and regard Satan as a symbol of man's inherent nature
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism#Atheistic_Satanism
Thestic Satanists is a form of Satanism with the primary belief that Satan is an actual deity or force worthy of reverence or worship.
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You are aware, aren't you, that wikipedia entries are written by people like you and me? While the entries often contain lots of interesting information...accurate information, too...wikipedia entries need to be read with your common sense turned fully on.
The literal meaning of atheism is "without god(s)." With NO exception, when you use the word, you refer to a circumstance in which there is NO belief in god(s), including such powerful supernatural beings as Satan. An atheist might view the concept of Satan as a symbolic construct to exemplify evil, but a true atheist no more believes Satan exists as a true entity than you believe the Tooth Fairy is real.
Go to your nearest on-line dictionary and look up the word "oxymoron." The phrase you used, "atheistic religion," is an oxymoron...there is no such thing, not withstanding atheists who use Christian symbology to attempt to get complex concepts, [sarcasm] like the meaning of atheism, [/sarcasm] across to the more simple-minded among us.
No amount of self-definition can change the fact that "atheistic religion" is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms, and impossible to exist. -
@sweetviolet
your definition of 'religion' is wrong.
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Compact Oxford English Dictionary
religion
• noun 1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. 2. a particular system of faith and worship. 3. a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.
— ORIGIN originally in the sense "life under monastic vows": from Latin religio ‘obligation, reverence’.
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I happen to be an atheist, I know what it means. I also happen to know what Satanism is. It is also not the only atheistic religion. Jains don't believe in god, nor do Buddhists, many Sikhs interpret 'god' as a representation of the universe. Many modern pagans are atheistic pagans (including myself) who view ideas of a deity as poetic personifications of nature, not as real beings.
There are some 'satanists' who worship satan, but they aren't reading the satanic bible. Real Satanists don't worship satan, their core belief is that they should not have anything as their god, not Christ, nor drugs, nor money...that they should have utter control of themselves.
Please learn something about what you're talking about before asserting your superior knowledge. -
Atheistic Satanism are actual atheists who regard Satan as a symbol of certain human traits.
Theistic Satanism believe that Satan is a true supernatural diety.
www.pokepath.com/interpretation/satanism/
Unlike Theistic Satanists, LaVeyan Satanists are atheists and agnostics who regard Satan as a symbol of man's inherent nature
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism#Atheistic_Satanism
@SweetViolet.....I am not arguing with you, now on to the rest of this discussion.
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Do you worship "the Dark Lord"?
*starts to hear Harry Potter theme song in head - starts singing to it*
No. Don't worship any kind of 'shady' being. I don't believe in it. I believe demons, devil, etc. to be manifestations of the human psyche - the part of ourselves that we try to deny. That's it. Should we give into that part we try to deny? Not necessarily. That's what transcendence addresses. It keeps people within peace, harmony within their bodies, and in harmony with the reality of the world/universe/people, if only people cared about finding it.
Now onto names. The devil, Lucifer, and Satan have seperate and distinct mythological origins. Research, and you'll find this to be true.-
Yes manifestations of the human psyche
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LOL - I like your disclaimer.
I was raised by buddhists, so we never had a devil that I know of. But I love movies about him.-
Yeah they make some awesome horror stories and movies for sure
Also everyone I am running out to pay some bills, so keep the comments coming.
I hope to see lots of replies to your comments from other bc members.
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I'm out the door now but wanted to leave you with this
Remember this??? hehehe
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCCoTTc5ivo&feature=PlayList&p=7475A3B46343690E&ind... -
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Talk about subliminal messaging.
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I believe in lawyers, does that count?-
I don't see why not but you may want to hide in case MadameX reads this lmao
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So you actually started it? haha
Yes I believe in them - but also believe that all demons claim to be the devil. I was doing a bit of research on the book "the lesser key of solomon" and listed the names of 72 demons that pull rank in hell.
On a fictional note: The book "the decent" by jeff long, offers some pretty thoughtful theories to who the devil is, and suggests that most cultures suggest that the devil comes from the underground therefore it leads to an underground expedition to find him, the movie "the decent" in my opinion is loosely based on the book, but only in terms of the opening sequence of the book.
Hmmmm makes me wonder if there are still evil people who live in caves still in this day in age.......-
Yup I finally started one...hahaha It's about time, all this GOD talk is making me barf.
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agreed - doesn't make us bad people, but I just find the topic more interesting
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Agreed
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I believe in me, I found that I always have to create my own destiny and solve my own problems.
We are all made up of energy, you can either be positive or negative the choice is yours!
That being said, I also believe that how we live our mortal life will have a direct effect on our after life.
Crazy maybe, only time will tell LOL.-
Ok
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Whether I acknowledge the existence of a being has little to do with whether I actually believe in that being.
I have indeed dealt with daemons. I don't take that lightly. But facing them can be useful indeed. Enough said.-
Ohh snap I forgot to add daemons and this is another great topic too.
Well we just added it to the pie. -
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie...
When the pie was opened, the birds began to sing! -
hmmmm variations in that rhyme
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_a_Song_of_Sixpence -
I do know another version but probably wouldnt be appropriate to post
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Sure just block out some of the words like this
You __uckin _ss _ole hehehe -
Yes...the birds have begun to sing already...hee hee...
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Ok here goes - I did warn
Sing a song of sixpence - a P_nis full of pus
Four or twenty Prostitutes loaded on a bus
F_cking by the windows and F_cking by the stairs
The driver is distracted by the lack of p_bic hairs -
Yup...they have indeed begun to sing!
Cheap cheap! -
hahahaha that is good one.
I better copy and save it before BC thinks about deleting it.
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you forgot my ex-mother-in-law
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Oh Lord deliver us from evil
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Is that the head of a pigeon, body of an elepant, roar of a lion type demonic entity?
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Here comes Satan CottonTail
Hoppin' Down the firey trail
Hippity Hoppity
Satan's on his way
Everyone Sing!-
needs more cowbell
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The Devil? That's the red guy with the horns and tail right?-
Yup...just look for the red.
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"There are probably dozens of different religious belief systems and practices that have been called "Satanism." Depending upon the precise meaning given to the word, the total number of Satanists in the world can be anything from a few thousand to four billion individuals . "
Fried PAl
friedpal.blogspot.com-
Agreed
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Do you believe in Demons and have you ever seen a Demon?
Yes, i believe bcs of some of my personal experiences. I had a kind of "Sleep paralysis" when i was ignoring Jeens. Actually i had read something about Devils and teased about them thinking they are unsensible and old stories.
At night while i was sleeping, i woke up but couldn't have moved my legs or arms. I was locked. Then he asked if i believe, i said "no". Then i felt something hold me up suddenly and asked several times more. I felt like i was dying. I said "yes" and prayed the God. Then i came back.
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Woah what an experience.
I have had sleep paralysis in my teens too so I know the feeling.
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I know Notsing *in sgt. schultz voice*-
Hey dude, long time no see
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Satan-- sure, he's a hockey player.
First name "Miroslav." Used to play here in Pittsburgh for the Penguins, but I believe just got sent to the minors. -
He won't mind being a miner he is used to working underground. -
Yeah he must have an awesome power drill
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Jeunelle you're such a pervert!
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hehehe
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The Jesus thread is back out there again so I am afraid I have to kick this one back out there to counteract it.
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That woman is scary and has no front teeth
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- There's even more scary stuff available. Have you seen these videos?
Crazy Lady on Fox News
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kF1J4s0dxM&feature=related
Crazy Religious Lady On Fox News...AGAIN!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc5FIMpHbgU&feature=related
Crazy Baptist Lady On Tyra Banks Show
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hahaha please stop terrorizing me, enough is enough. My eyes they burn.
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Jeunelle...I don't understand you. You posted a Jesus thread yourself...you are confusing me.-
When did I ever have a Jesus discussion on this main bc platform?
If you are referring to the Group discussion from VoodooKobra well that is entirely different and away from this main bc discussion platform. I am sure that Group was created as a diversion to lessen down this main bc discussion platform from seeing too many Jesus/God threads. -
"You posted a Jesus thread yourself...you are confusing me." Really? Jeunelle stop posting threads about me. -
Whatever I do, I always get into trouble....JJJJEEEESSSSUUUUSSSS
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Jeunelle you're cool....I was just teasing you a bit.
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It wasn't me honest, it was the Debil, he made me do it.
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Oh Lord
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I worship this www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bgioX0iBbE
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Hilarious I'm saving this one
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hahaha yes.... he is evil in the purest form
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Satan is the best church friend, he's keeping them into buisiness for so many years:)
Without devil their is no God-
Well that's the premise some would say I suppose
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I couldn't think of something worth saying so I'll go with this:
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