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Should BC have a Religious discission board?
Posted by siralmo • 12/28/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: bc, discussion, politics, religion
Do you think BC should have a religious or spiritual discussion board just like it has a political discussion board
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you said hell, does that mean this is now a religious discussion?
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haha Hell no.. Nice pickup there.
Everyone has their own opinion on religion.. Look at this not even a religious discussion and get traffic like no other post..
I have faith.. do you?
It doesn't matter what people believe.. You can't stop them or prove them wrong.. Its a mindset..
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YES! I have previously suggested this but unfortunately it didn't come to pass.
Edit: The only history being made on this forum is the prolonged heated arguing between the same minority of BC members, myself included, who are addicted to repeating themselves over and over ad infinitum.
The historical fallout here in the BC community will be the ill will created. That's the irony because what we are here supposedly for is to build community and what I see happening in the religious threads is quite the opposite.-
Swallows tongue...
I have never heard this discussion before. -
i agree TT
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Dear Time,
You and any other quasi theologists are more then welcome to use my blog board, I converted a message board so that any member world wide can register free and write an unlimited amount of articles and replies, I threw in a couple of extra html goodies so you can personalize your blog or articles, it's safe and it is free & painless to register. I don't keep any info, only what is needed to operate the board. It is called the World Blog Board and you can easily gain entrance via a link set at the top right hand side of my blog, The Political Punch, if you decide to make an entry and start it off, I will follow yours up with a reply, or my own article. To anyone else in the world, if you are interested in sharing your views pro or con, you are more than welcomed to join.
Regards,
Joseph
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Yes and they should hand out bows and arrows... a lions den even
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I disagree, that is, unless you agree with me, then I disagree with you agreement. Agreed? or is it just my greed?
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WOW that was quick
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yes, we're sitting here waiting for Self realisation, one must be ready
They usually say the cliche . When the Student is ready, Da Master appears.
My version "When the student is ready, the master is queer" -
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
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The only problem with it is we'd miss out on some classic comments either for against Jesus is the only way.
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hahaha you so god damn funny.. Da master appears.. love it.
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im sure that we would still get them, there would just be less of them
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Yes, yes and yes
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Why do you answer three times. Is that one for the physical, one for the astral and the other the Etheric. I bow to your subtle wisdom and teaching.
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I knew you would understand Acoustic
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Oh Sensai, thankyou for your encouragement
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What for? To say I believe this and I don't believe this! Religion thread here, in my perspective is for argument and fight and make me forget to help other blogger and get help. LOL-
In Hinduism, one of the Avatars was a turtle.
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Really, I thought it was a red panda
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I'm serious
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Hindu, a bore religion, full of gods
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But there's one for everyone
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correction.. one of Vishnu's avatars is tortoise, not turtle
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The political discussion board seems to be working out pretty poorly--it's often several hours between posts,only the same handful of people respond (with the same predictable views) and people often end up cross-posting here because they'd actually like some participation and fresh ideas (and get lots of responses), so I'd say that's not a very good recommendation for taking other topics in the same direction.-
well the political board is pretty inaccessable, it should be blindingly obvious, it would get more readers
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@siralmo
Here we go again. FWIW this is the same argument Madame X presented in favor of keeping religious posts in the General Discussion forum previously and that won the day. It was likewise the same argument presented in opposition to creating the political forum but in that case the decision went the other direction. -
Interesting, Timethief, that voicing your opinion is reasonable or beneficial, but when someone voices a contrary opinion it's "here we go again".
So "here we go again" means "Once again, someone insists on being stupid enough to voice a view inconsistent with The Truth According to Timethief"? -
@Madame X
There's no need for you to deviate from dealing with the issue only, without getting personal, so perhaps you should consider why are you doing so. "Here we go again," is indeed accurate statement because we have discussed this here before Siralmo was a member, and because we both presented the same arguments then as we are now. I said what I meant and the word "stupid" is not found in what I stated. -
OH MY GAWD...ROFLMAO
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MadameX: in reply to your first comment
i think its unfair that at points the board is filled with religious threads that everyone has discussed to the hilt, when other threads get drowned out.
it has come to the point now where i don't even bother and if i do its because someone is over baring, or i will drop a
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We might need the bow and arrows sooner than I thought
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MadameX: in reply to your second comment
that was uncalled for, TT has an opinion that is just as valid as yours -
I agree with Siralmo on both of his comments to MadameX.
I'm barely participating on BC this week...nothing but religion and make money threads crowding out everything else.
Religion is a polarizing topic that causes conflict and hard feelings, much like politics. It is appropriate that such topics be given their own venues so they don't take over the forum and drive people away with their contentiousness.
When we have a proliferation of religious topics on the first page, I pretty much stop participating except to respond to the most egregious trangressions against reason. Look around and you'll see I am not the only one who is scarce these days.
And MmeX's attack on TT was entirely without provocation. You owe TT an apology, MmeX, and it should be just as public as your unprovoked attack. -
"MadameX: in reply to your second comment
that was uncalled for, TT has an opinion that is just as valid as yours"
Clearly, you either didn't read what I said or missed my point. I wasn't the one who complained about TT's view--she was the one who stated her (oft stated before) position and then, when I did the same (though much more briefly), responded with the "here we go again".
Of course, the interchange was skewed a bit when she engaged in her usual practice of altering her comment after a response had been posted to change the context--for a long time I made a point not to respond to anything she said until the editing time had expired, but I guess I got careless today.
Suffice to say, Siralmo, that you and I agree--everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. I'm sorry that TT doesn't share that view. -
"You owe TT an apology, MmeX, and it should be just as public as your unprovoked attack."
Violet, I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm sure you're well aware that TT's initial comment was revised after I responded. Nonetheless, despite her editing to attempt to change the context, I stand by what I said--I didn't object when TT stated the opinion she's stated dozens of times before. When I did the same, she responded "Here we go again"...apparently, she is permitted to restate a point she thinks is valid and those who disagree with her are not. If you consider pointing that out an "unprovoked attack"...well, it's pretty sad when simply pointing out a fact is considered an attack. Says a lot about the person under "attack", I guess, if telling the truth about her requires an apology. -
Timethief is not STUPID. She may not be as bright as me but she's definitely not stupid.
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Q; What is worse than an unprovoked attack?
A: Rationalizing that attack in such a way as to blame the victim for it.
Her edit did not change the message, only clarified her position and, in fact, even pointed a culpable finger at herself.
You attacked TT without provocation and rather than give her a well-deserved apology, you are now massaging the facts to put the blame for your behaviour on her. Shame on you, MmeX. Shame!
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I demand a discussion board about me
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give us a good reason??
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Well to answer siralmo's question, I do think there should be a discussion board because as soon as someone wants to discuss religion on the general forum, everyone has something negative to say about it or the thread goes nowhere. Maybe putting it in another place is the answer.
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I disagree with everything you said
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Everything I said is just a suggestion and it's not up to me to decide what BC wants.
Ask me if I care what they do. -
I disagree with that too
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@acousticguitarist....I'm not surprised.....cause what else is new with you
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I'm in my disagree mood. I also disagree... I don't really even know what you're saying. But this is about disagreeing :-)
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I could care less if it has a religion discussion board or not but a horizontal menu at the top would probably be helpful for separate discussion areas.-
What, with two sections Mad and Not Mad?
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Before this thread gets all crazy I just wanted to say that I LOVE YOU ALL and if I had a million dollars I would invite you all over to my home where we could just relax and get to know each other.
Drink several bottles of wine, smile, laugh and enjoy each others originality.
and patiently wait to see which one of gets drunk enough to dance naked on my coffee table.-
is it made of glass??
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actually yes it is, you better take your shoes off first siralmo
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:S yah, no thanks
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PLEASE BE CIVIL
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I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF MY THREADS REMOVED
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Yes... because every religious thread go the same way.
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You mean the Omega, .. the Alpha and the Omega
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Yes I love you all too and if I had a million dollars yau'll will never see again
because I would change my identity in a heartbeat to get away from all this madness.-
You aren't going anywhere without me!!!
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@Sylvia...you're welcome to come if you want.
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now about that million dollars we need ...
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We need to find a way quick, life is short and I am aging.
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why??
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I would love it if they did.
There have been times when I've tried to have real spiritual discussion in the general forum and it just doesn't work. I really believe I'd have useful things to share, too. In my experience discussing spirituality is often unfit for general discussions, without being mocked with spaghetti deities and other such things. Though the spaghetti deity was pretty funny... I'm just glad I wasn't the target of that one.
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We have argued about the place of religion on these boards before, and I've expressed some pretty strong opinions myself (markstoneman.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/talking-religion-on-public-forums/), but I'm done worrying about it.
Be that as it may, if any new boards were to be added, there would need to be a new navigation system that integrates better the politics board that currently exists. Also, the politics board worked pretty well during the US 2008 election season, but it remains to be seen where it goes from here. Seems to be a rather small cast of characters at the moment.-
agreed, these are some points that have been suggested above.
and everybody has expressed very different opinions
if we changed the navigation for BC it could work very well, but if it was approached the same way the political board was approached everyone would still be using the main board for these discussions, as i find that its not accessible enough,
(note being that this is only my opinion)
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The religeous topics are repeated one after another all the time. Kind of specialised chat topics these days-
I would now like to argue about Mithra
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Should BC have a Religious discission board?
Sure... I personally would like to see a discission board myself. And, a discassion board, a discession board, discussion board and discyssion board too while you are at it.-
And a discwssion board, too!
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Sure.
It might help in not having the same topics repeated over and over again. -
I disagree with having it in a separate discussion board. It is starting to sound like segregation in a religious or non form. Honestly if you don't want to take part in a religious discussion then stay out of the thread that's what I do.
If you don't want the discussion board taken up by a lot religious threads, then start up some threads on what you would like to discuss.
Or if you don't like the way this discussion board is set up then start one of your own! It's that simple!-
The thing is, they did start one for politics here, so there's a precedent (www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss). Whether or not it is working or not and is a good idea is another matter.
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@markstoneman:
That's true, and at the time I thought it was a great idea, until I noticed that only a few participated giving me the impression that it isn't working very well, because some have just given up on the reactions they get there and bring the thread over to the general discussions.
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When things are separated people seem to lose interest, I guess not enough reaction
to threads as they can get on the main discussions.
Yup this is a good point why it won't work. I guess people do like the main forum because of the response and the excitement of it all and it's a shame that as soon as we go to post a discussion like this (I don't think I ever attempted to) it gets trampled with negative comments by those who don't want to see another one of these post, meanwhile there is still an interest and people still want to discuss and speak freely about it. -
markstoneman: i believe it would attract more people if it had a proper place up in the menu
i honestly don't think enough people think about it because its not right in their face
on the other hand it is also that same core group of people that were discussing it on the main board to begin with.
the only things that have changed is the number of randoms that come in because they are interested by the heading and that those threads aren't adding to the jumbled mess that is the main discussion board.
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don't we have a religious discussion board already?
I thought the "shameless blog promotion" was the politically correct category for that...
*edit* I was going to put links to vote yes/no for beleiving in God with both links going to my blog.. but BC thought of that! -
You gotta be kidding. Religion has been the source of intense debate, flame wars, and blog depreciation. Religion is supposed to be about personal peace. So far most of the online discussions involving religious topics have been far from peace. I seen this for over 10 years already.
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Hello, it looks like BC already made the call on this sacred cow the last February. markstoneman.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/talking-religion-on-public-forums/-
if they banned it from their main discussion board, then how come there is still so much of it??
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@siralmo
I don't know what happened. I joined in March and by then the ban had been lifted.
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@ TT
Interesting post. It didn't last long. I for one would just like to say that as a spiritual person, I am not here to get a rise or reaction out of people. I LIKE being part of the community and like hearing all the different things that make people tick. -
I don't like the idea..
Religion, politics.. What the ? are they?
are they special..
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They are very special because the affect everybody regardless of your desire to participate or not. Ignoring them wont bring peace, just the opposite these two powerful tools will fall in the hands of idiots who will use them to hammer us into submission
It's not funny it's sad but true.
We need peace I agree but we can only have peace if peaceful people are in charge.
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I am on the
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yea u r ryt bt wat i mean to say is let us nt create a new discussion board for religion.. -
There definitely should be so these senseless arguments won't clutter up the main board. Just as the Poli section, there should be a Rel section. -
BC, from what I observe; has a more generic "feel" it... so, why worry about segregation of any topic - religion, politics, family, lifestyle and on and on...
I like BC because it is another "opportunity" to voice what I am passionate about! And... I have made a lot of friends here too!
There are a lot more divisive problems facing public forums than "religion" per se... sensor thought and you create "mindless" banter. If this is what you want, then go to "Myspace." -
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I think people get bored and not sure what discussion to start, so Religion seems to be the biggest attention getter, so they start one. Some don't see that there has already been a few million already come and gone, like myself included.
These discussion boards remind me of the old chat rooms, way back when only your comments stay on...lol..unless the moderator removes them. I personally miss those chat rooms. Oh, did I just tell me age??? oops! =D
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Whooo!!! Go Broncos!! yeah
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very interesting stuff but now i would like to know
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First of all answer to your current question: Craigslist has one of biggest forums and it has a specific section for religious threads.
And now I will like to share my opinion on this post's topic. I read all the comments and found out some interesting results.
1. Some people are afraid of religious discussion board
2. Some people are conscious to get in
3. Some people are willing
Lets be bravo and face the opposite opinions, after all this all will help us all to find the real truth. If we didn't start such discussions today, some other will start tomorrow, then why not BC do it today??
Blog/comments moderation systems or report functions help keep respect of each religion, so first category people shouldn't be worried at all
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I think there should be a separation, simply because religious discussions seem to provoke arguments. Some folks can't "agree to disagree" and that's a shame. My grandmother didn't allow anyone to discuss politics or religion at a meal and now I understand why... -
Good suggestion.
==> Provides the opportunity for engagement in a wider and diversified scope of topics for friendly and interactive discussion.
Well, just hope BC would give this recommendation some serious consideration.
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Good suggestion.
==> Provides the opportunity for engagement in a wider and diversified scope of topics for friendly and interactive discussion.
Well, just hope BC would give this recommendation some serious consideration.
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Please seperate Religious related posts from the main discussions! For my sanity, I beg!
Or atleast a check-box type filter... anything so I don't have to see them...
The problem exists because I am logical, and rational, and Ethics does not need any sort of hokus-pokus to be practiced. No need for prayer, no need for a epic-story... just know what you ought-do and what you ought-not-do and you should be set for a good life!
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WHERE WERE YOU RAISED IN A CAVE?
I HOPE YOU NEVER FIND YOURSELF IN TRUE NEED OF HELP, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR SAVIOR IS AND WHERE YOUR HELP COMES FROM?.
GOD BLESS YOU ANYWAY - SMILE-
@sexyceo
WHERE WERE YOU RAISED IN A CAVE?
No, I was not raised in a cave. I was raised in an evangelical Christian fundamentalist family (both sides pastors families) and brainwashed from birth onwards. I am a Bible College graduate and I chose not to continue and get a degree, even though I did have a thesis ready for publication.
I HOPE YOU NEVER FIND YOURSELF IN TRUE NEED OF HELP, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR SAVIOR IS AND WHERE YOUR HELP COMES FROM?
My help comes first of all from being well acquainted with myself and from loving myself. Indeed if I didn't love myself I would not be capable of loving anyone else. I have twice been at death's door and I was not afraid not did I look for an imaginary friend to "save" me.
GOD BLESS YOU ANYWAY - SMILE
I do not accept your blessing because it has no value as you do not deliver it with love, and that according to the book that you believe in makes you a clanging cymbal.
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal." 1 Corinthians 13:1
Some advice about effective and polite cyber-communication
In cyberspace typing is all capital letters is equivalent to SHOUTING into someone's face. It's rude and only those who are ignorant of net etiquette and protocol do this.
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Thank you so much for posting to this thread. Your post exemplifies why I believe that religious threads ought to be moved into a separate forum. -
Wow! How inexcusably rude! And you call yourself a Christian?
It is comments like this...and the people who make them...that motivate us to want these threads set off in their own venue so that we don't have to be exposed to such self-righteous rudeness and gratuitous disrespect.
Although I doubt we'll get one, you owe us all an abject apology.
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It would be great if we could get all the religious crap off the main discussion board.-
Maybe you should promote your religious group a little bit more
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There's only one other topic other than Religion that makes me cringe...BC vs. WordPress. Both have been discussed to death, I'm surprised war hasn't been declared. It's the new year, find some new and interesting topics to discuss.-
I think when you said "BC vs. WordPress" that you actually meant to say Blogger versus Wordpress. Am I right? If so then I agree.
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Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for the clarification.
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You mean a discussion board that goes to church? How exactly would an on-line entity, made up of html code do that? Can a web page believe in a higher power?-
Well, it's just far too technical for me to explain - it comes from a higher power - or something.
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I think so, but sadly many of these boards often are not for discussion but rather for attacks. Although we are suppose to have freedom of belief in this country, for some people if you do not share the same sentiments as they do then you face some very nasty comments and remarks.-
i'm sorry, what country??
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Yes, it's too bad that so many people can't just discuss faith-related topics without seeing it as an opportunity to proselytize and eternally condemn those who disagree.
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There should be religious board. Why people are afraid of facing opposite beliefs and ideas?? whyyyyyyyyyy....
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Fear - what fear? I have no fear. I left fear and guilt based religion behind me years ago. I'm just sick and tired of the same old, same old that goes on day after day, week after week and month after month. It does not create community. It creates animosity.
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Sorry b4 to join in. I am newbie here. Sure, why not ? I think with the religious area will improve our knowlege. But in the discusion panel, there must be some moderator to control the post and article. that's my opinion -
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Another case in point is found in this thread that features proselytizing on the forum: www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/obama-is-humble-before-god-we-all-need-th...
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sigh...I have my beliefs and if someone believes differently than me, thats ok..if they believe similarly to me thats ok too. I don't believe in shoving anything down anyone's throat.
P.S. This isn't directed at anyone in particular...I just feel that sometimes religious threads are 'my way or the highway' or 'if you don't believe as I do, you are doomed' ....*Shudder*-
sigh...I have my beliefs and if someone believes differently than me, thats ok..if they believe similarly to me thats ok too. I don't believe in shoving anything down anyone's throat.
That's what I respect and &hearts you. However, not everyone is like you.
I just feel that sometimes religious threads are 'my way or the highway' or 'if you don't believe as I do, you are doomed' ....*Shudder*
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awww...thanks...I respect that about you *Hugs*
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A forum for just religion would be great. It's a touchy enough subject with many that if it gets overly exposed in the general forums, it could cause some problems. If you want to discuss religion, go here; if not, go here... I think it's just fine.
I have my beliefs, but I certainly don't like anybody preaching at me.-
There are groups for such discussions. The members and there Admin can limit memberships as they so choose or leave them open.
This is one: www.blogcatalog.com/group/religious-debate-and-discussions
Christian groups (12 groups) www.blogcatalog.com/groups/tag/Christian
Religious groups (19 groups) www.blogcatalog.com/groups/tag/religion
Spirituality (10 groups) www.blogcatalog.com/groups/tag/spirituality
Cause and Effect
www.blogcatalog.com/group/cause-effect
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@financialnut
Yes, BC members wishing to discuss religion and spirituality can go to many BC groups. I only provided links to some. They can also form as many new groups as they want to. They can formulate their own membership requirements and rules.
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Initially I would have said yes, but seeing how people who do not believe in it would still go there to bash, degrade and insult (as it happens with the political boards) may as well leave it on the main page.-
Or even better: Put it all in one place so we can avoid it.
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haha just keep bumping that thread with the group link and maybe it'll turn into an unofficial area.
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You can dicuss facts, but faith is faith! & not worth arguing about, since it involves things that could not be true - except as a item of faith.
Dead people don't get better, unless their mum was a virgin who was made pregnant by a male god who wanted to have a child who could be killed, so he could get better again.
What is there to discuss?
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What is there to discuss?
If you are truly seeking an answer to that question, although I sense your aren't, then either join a group or simply observe one by reading the threads posted and you will have an answer.
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I think my point was Religion requires faith - and such issues are not up for discussion
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Ahhh ... thanks for the clarity.
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No need for it. It will only add to religion based conflicts. Most of the problems an be solved by merely IGNORING them. No need to focus on sensitive issues. -
NO!
Time and time again I keep saying we should never argue about religion. Your belief is your belief one can't push anyone to believe what you believe.
Faith is something personal to an individual, each has their reason for being and religion is something we should not argue about because we know all know this sparks BIG ARGUMENTS that are disrespectful.
We should respect each others belief and leave all arguments/discussion to prove we are better.
We will all be judge by our actions in the end. Whatever your religion is or even if you don't have a religion.
Respect is all that matters so we can have peace in the world. We can discuss about anything else but I think we should leave religion behind.-
fantastic comment earthlingorgeous.wonderful reply.
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yes, it is the job of the reader to decide whether the comments are relevant. ppl should be open minded about the belief systems of others in the world. tolerance requires education of other cultures. religion is terribly lacking in todays world and we should embrace the belief systems that exist as science has created a very biased and onesided view of the world.
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I think the real question at this point is "should BC have a discussion board to discuss whether or not BC should have a religious discussion board?"
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Perhaps simply placing the Religious posts on the Political Forum would be workable.
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I posted before reading your suggestion - not a half bad idea.
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is this something that still needs to be considered?
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Last time I checked Blog Catalog was a blogging website. Not a forum, not a religious website. Be glad you can talk about general stuff in the first place, don't push your luck.
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it should have 144,000 members
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I think a religious discussion is fine. To those of you who have commented that everyone has a different opinion about religion, isn't that what a discussion is all about? Religion is the most talked about subject in the world so why not here?
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No, not if it means prohibiting religious threads as part of our general discussions. Naturally, if people interested in religion want to form their own discussion groups that's perfectly fine.
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