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swine flu outbreak
Posted by timethief • 4/24/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: Mexico, south western usa, swine flu, texas
Winnipeg, CDC lab find swine flu viruses in Mexican specimens; WHO worried
By Helen Branswell, Medical Reporter, The Canadian Press
TORONTO - Mexican authorities confirmed Friday they have found human infections with swine flu virus, a discovery that suggests the outbreak there is linked to person-to-person spread of swine flu in the southwestern United States.
Canada's National Microbiology laboratory found 16 positive cases of swine flu out of a shipment of 51 clinical specimens sent from Mexico to Winnipeg for testing, sources say. Those specimens included lung biopsies and nasal swabs, among other types of specimens.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has also found positives among samples from Mexico tested in the CDC labs in Atlanta.
"We have tested 14 samples from Mexico and seven of those tested positive," Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the CDC, told a news conference Friday.
He confirmed eight cases of swine flu infection in people in Southern California and Texas over the past few days. The latest case involves a child in the San Diego area who has recovered, Besser said.
... The world is currently at level 3 of the WHO's six-rung pandemic alert ladder, because of ongoing sporadic cases of human infection with the H5N1 avian flu virus. Phase 3 means there are occasional human cases with a novel flu virus.
WHO would need the advice of an expert panel to move up to Phase 4 or beyond. Phase 6 is a pandemic.
Read the full article --> ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090424/health/health_swine_flu
Discussion questions
Do you live in Texas, Mexico or the south western United States?
What do you know about the swine flu virus and how it's transmitted?
User Comments
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OK so I'm not getting bacon on my egg sandwich tommorow. Swine is such a dirty word for such a cute animal.-
It's air borne...so the bacon....well alittle late if you live in the Southwestern part of the United States or in Mexico
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I guess I won't throw my pearls before swine, after all.-
Very funny ... I'm going to use it.
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Any news on what city in Texas?-
@TonyB
Claire has provided the answer - San Antonio.
Here's more reporting www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jyidCLFCGi7s8QvjHJ25t5DeyvpAD97P...
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"On Wednesday, the CDC announced that routine surveillance had uncovered mild flu cases during late March and April, caused by a novel swine flu virus. Those affected, aged 9 to 54, live in and around San Diego, California, and San Antonio, Texas, near the Mexican border. None was severe. Symptoms were normal for flu, with more nausea and diarrhoea than usual."
Taken from www.newscientist.com/article/dn17025-deadly-new-flu-virus-in-us-and-mexico-... -
Key Facts about Swine Influenza (Swine Flu)
www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/key_facts.htm#humans
Interim Guidance on Infection Control and Antiviral Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed or Suspected Swine Influenza A Virus Infection
www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/recommendations.htm
Mexico hit by deadly new flu virus
Mexico City has closed universities and schools until further notice, suspended all major public events and advised people feeling flu-like symptoms to stay home from work.
Mexico City's busiest subway stations are handing out face masks to passengers to use on crowded train carriages. The city government has closed museums, including the popular Anthropology Museum.
Mexico has confirmed 20 deaths from the flu and has 40 other possible fatalities and 1,004 people reported infected. Most of those who died are aged between 25 and 45.
In California and Texas, eight people were infected with the new strain, but all of them have recovered.
The virus is an influenza A virus, carrying the designation H1N1 and is spreading from person to person. It contains DNA from avian, swine and human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine viruses, according to the U.S. Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC.
The virus is being passed on by sneezing, coughing or physical contact.
uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE53N72B20090424
Mexico is contending with an outbreak of swine flu, suspected in the deaths of dozens of people and sickening perhaps 1000. In the United States, at least eight cases have been confirmed with the infection, all of them in California and Texas; ...
see video --> news.google.ca/nwshp?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&...-
Mexico swine flu has 'pandemic potential'- WHO holds emergency meeting
WHO director-general Margaret Chan, who broke off a visit to Washington to return to the organization's headquarters in Switzerland, said the outbreak involves "an animal strain of the H1N1 virus, and it has pandemic potential."
Chan said it's too early to say whether a pandemic will actually occur, but she referred to the outbreak as a "serious situation" that needed to be followed closely. ...
"This is a particular kind of swine flu and it's actually no longer swine flu, although it came from pigs. It's a new human influenza virus," Allison McGeer, director of infection control at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto told CBC News.
www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/25/flu-mexico-090425.html
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This outbreak is worth monitoring. It ticks some of the boxes for being a possible serious pandemic i.e. is air borne and is a zoonose (inter species virus infection).
The good news regarding particularly virulent viruses is that they generally mutate to a less virulent form. This is because a virus that seriously incapacitates or kills the host quickly does not have the same opportunity to propagate itself in a population.
The key indicator of how dangerous this particular outbreak might be is how long a host is infectious before they become very unwell.-
In polybore's previous post they mentioned how time is crucial in the spread of the virus.
Unfortunately it seems that Mexico was slow to identify this new strain of "swine flu". A consequence of this delay is that this virus has been able to spread around the globe.
Possible and confirmed cases have been reported in New Zealand, Scotland and Israel. Unfortunately due to the nature of international air travel and the use of hub international airports it can be assumed that the virus has gone global.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/27/global-alert-swine-flu-who
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Aaaaaaaaaah-chooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
*sniffle*
Sorry about that.-
Coughs and sneezes spread diseases.
news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4360000/newsid_4363000/4363046.stm?bw=bb&m... -
wash your hands
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Why? I didn't use them.
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Thanks for the heads up. I live 3 hours from San Diego but haven't heard anyone talking about it. I'll be sure to wash my hands
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I did a post about this yesterday and it has grown even more serious since then. There are now 75 students at a school in Queens, New York who are believed to have it. Caution should be the word of the day on this. Let us keep each other informed.-
It's important to be cautious and well informed but it's also important not to create a panic situation.
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You are so right about that, TT.
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timetheif please post this to my site as a comment for my young viewers and mommys. -
The mass media has forgotten about avian flu. I saw a news segment about how many people are raising chickens in the down economy. I immediately though "Avian Pandemic in the making" but it wasn't up on the teleprompter, so the propaganda agents never made the connection. O_o -
I'm seriously thinking of buying my ex a plane ticket to Mexico; he always gets every single virus that goes around. Let's just hope he doesn't come back!-
okey-dokey then... if the virus doesn't get him the "drug war" will
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Please note
Key Facts about Swine Influenza (Swine Flu)
www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/key_facts.htm#humans
Interim Guidance on Infection Control and Antiviral Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed or Suspected Swine Influenza A Virus Infection
www.cdc.gov/flu/swine/recommendations.htm
What medications are available to treat humans with swine flu?
Four antiviral drugs are licensed for use in the United States: amantadine, rimantadine, oseltamivir and zanamivir. While most swine flu viruses have been susceptible to all four drugs, the most recent seven swine flu viruses isolated from humans are resistant to amantadine and rimantadine. Right now, the CDC recommends oseltamivir or zanamivir for the treatment and/or prevention of infection with swine flu viruses. -
This is the end, my only friend, the end... -
No & No
What are the ways to prevent :o)-
The way we prevent contracting this flu are the same ways we prevent other strains of flu from infecting us.
Please click the links I provided above and read what you find at the sites. There is no specific vaccine however, having a flu shot is recommended, and of course, avoiding contact with those who have flu symptoms, as well as, hand washing. -
stay out of the pig pen?
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Yes, but saying that alone is misleading because it's now a human influenza that's being transmitted from person to person ie. the same way all other human influenzas are transmitted.
"This is a particular kind of swine flu and it's actually no longer swine flu, although it came from pigs. It's a new human influenza virus, " Allison McGeer, director of infection control at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto told CBC News.
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Oh yeah thanks.. Its dangerous...
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oh god. I got UC San Diego. I am practically on the border.
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A Canadian curse?-
No it did not start in Canada. Canada is working with Mexican and U.S. health officials and they have confirmed that the virus in both countries is linked and is in fact a new strain of influenza A H1N1 human swine virus. About 80 per cent of the virus is highly related to a North American body of swine flu that's been around for a number of years, but about 20 per cent of it comes from an Eurasian variety of swine flu first seen in Thailand.
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I saw in the morning paper about this. Doc suggested to wash hand often.
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I don't live that far from the Mexican border.....yikes!-
Well that's one consideration but another is how many people you come into contact with that have been traveling to locations where the outbreaks have occurred. And of course there may be future travel advisories (warnings) as well.
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Folks around here travel, own second homes and vacation all over Mexico. It's enough to make me wanna go back into seclusion.
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Many people I know also travel to Mexico but due to the Mexican army and the drug lords war they chose not to go there this winter.
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RE: panic - remember that the plague was spread rapidly in Europe by people trying to FLEE and outrun the disease! hence the quarantines now for things like Ebola virus..
book The Coming Plague (by Laurie Garrett) is a good but scary look at what's happening to mankind.. through increased toxicity in the environment, we're destroying our natural immunities and will likely threaten mankind as a species over the next 200 yrs..
Hopefully biotech and stem cell research can ward off the worst of these..
"We all owe God one death", and you'll eventually repay it, but let's all hope later rather than sooner!
OR: (1) Avoid people (2) Isolate yerself, become a hermit (3) dont ever go anywhere crowded (4) become your own prisoner!
YIKES - may as well just run out and expose yourself if that's the alternative! I need hugs!!
I'll search for cures and post them here, IF..:
stemcellstock.blogspot.com
(I'm also very skeptical that the FDA and US healthcare really wants cures, just the money from treatments! we cure cancer, they lose TRILLIONS! that's where our wealth is going, useless treatment, not prevention or vaccines)
NO, this didn't come from "Babe"! he's clean and loveable..
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Hard at work in the NWO depopulation labs... Run to get your shots!
www.prisonplanet.com/medical-director-swine-flu-was-cultured-in-a-laborator... -
Do you live in Texas, Mexico or the south western United States?
No, but pig farming is a major part of the economy in my part of central Minnesota - so I'm watching this with personal interest.
What do you know about the swine flu virus and how it's transmitted?
'Only what I read in the papers' - Plus what the CDC, Mayo, and all say.
The CDC has a pretty good Q & A: www.cdc.gov/swineflu/key_facts.htm but it doesn't point out that handling raw pork improperly can transmit the disease. Cook the stuff, and it's fine (and tasty). They've got a decent brochure in pdf format: www.cdc.gov/swineflu/pdf/brochure.pdf
From the repeated 'wash your hands before handling food' advice, it seems to be transmitted by contact - although I'd guess that a good sneeze or cough would have a shot at making it an air born virus, too.
(Shameless plug follows) I've posted a few facts and opinions, plus a set of links (near the bottom of the post) to relevant pages by CDC, WHO and other credible sources of information. apatheticlemming.blogspot.com/2009/04/mutant-swine-flu-pandemic-possible-bu... -
I don't live in either of those areas. However, I just blog about it today. I think we should all take precaution.-
There are lots of reference links in this thread you can use so go for it. Awareness is important. Panic is useless.
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Well, as long as no one sees Randall Flagg walking around, there is still hope
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It's bound to be a huge problem when people from "diverse backgrounds" come together for Work Camp and then return home...
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Swine Flu: What They Aren't Teling Us
ingothoughts.blogspot.com/2009/04/swine-flu-what-they-arent-telling-us.html-
What a disappointment. Your post does not contain anything that hasn't been already posted to this thread.
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Not even hobbiton is safe from the swineflu!!
www.3news.co.nz/News/Swine-flu-believed-to-have-infected-10-students/tabid/... -
Swine flu fears prompt quarantine plans, travel warnings
A deadly new strain of swine flu is leading to travel warnings, quarantine plans and other precautions around the world. Canada is now the third country with confirmed human cases. New Zealand, France and Israel are reporting suspected cases.
www.kdbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=10251525&nav=menu608_2_5
US Airways issues travel advisory
ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1141778
Video link: Containing Swine Flu In Mexico CBS - 80 deaths now being reported
news.google.ca/nwshp?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&... flu travel warnings
Obama Admin. Releases Stockpile of Antiflu Virus Drug
Tamiflu Has Shown to Be Effective Against Swine Flu
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Curse of the werepigs!
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8 suspected cases identified in Spain. Samples being analysed at Madrid epidemiologic laboratory. Call for no panic.
www.lavozdegalicia.es/sociedad/2009/04/26/00031240741921242124810.htm
4 suspected cases identified in France. Call for no panic too.
www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2009/04/26/grippe-porcine-4-cas-suspec... -
Mexican president Calderón in the news a while ago, summarising the cases there (it is the largest sample, so the first indicator of severity of the outbreak on a random human population):
67% of cases have already left the hospital ("mild" flu, including "normal flu")
26% of cases remain at hospital ("severe" flu)
6% of cases are casualties ("deadly" flu)
www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/593755.html
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Great, now it's in Nassau County LI according to the news.. thats were I live
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It's spreading quite quickly, Im sure it'll be the top news in most countries today. Its a scary thought knowing how fast a virus can spread across the world.
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We should remember though that this is still a flu and does not necessarily result in hospitalization or death. I agree it's something that needs to be monitored very carefully but I am concerned about the usual media hype that serves to panic people rather than inform them about how to avoid contracting it.
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Fear sells. Media know that very well. A call for responsible information is always welcome. And more in a blogging community, in which we are also media.
There are many eyes and brains working everyday to prevent pandemics, be the topic in the media (as these days) or not. Those are the silent heroes.
www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm
www.who.int/csr/disease/influenza/en/
There is also a quite updated "good information summary" of the flu topic... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_outbreak -
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No kidding!
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Canada has 6 confirmed cases (2 in BC and 4 in Nova Scotia). There are also 21 that are sick but not yet confirmed in Nova Scotia. They are all from a private school and are currently in isolation.
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I hope it's contained before it gets really bad.
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Me too.
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Here in the UK, they're doing airport checks for passengers coming from Mexico.
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Do not eat pig-
The swine flu is now a human respiratory flu that is being passed from person to person. It cannot be contracted through eating the meat. Please read the information at the links provided above.
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I just read that on yahoo news today and I can't resist reading through the end. I don't reside in Mexico but in our place here in the Philippines (Pangasinan, there are incidents of swine flu lately from nearby towns. The Department of Health said months ago that it is no cause for panic since humans are not affected. Now this. Wonder what the DOH will say this time. -
There have been several school districts closing around san antonio
www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Schertz-Cibolo-Universal_City_ISD_shut... -
hmmmmm, food for thought
Swine Flu vaccine
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13356
commercial for the Swine Flu outbreak in '76
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Not to drop links and run (I have no time right now) but here's some interesting info for you guys:
GOP fought to have pandemic preparedness taken out of stimulus
www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/138568/gop_pigs_stripped_%27flu_pandemic_prepar...
www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/430261
Texas governor Rick secessionist Perry asks for government funds for swine flu pandemic
www.sanmarcosrecord.com/local/local_story_115145845.html
www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/138548/secessionist_texas_governor_asks_for_fed...
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Crap...I just ate a piece of pork explosion quiche-
Hmmmmm ... swine flu cannot be contracted by eating pork and it's not a service to anyone to imply that it can be.
It spreads the same way that other flu viruses spread. Originally this flu spread from pig to pig, but according to the CDC it could also infect humans who handle pigs. This current strain of swine flu has mutated from the original ones. It is affecting humans more than the other strains in the past and it is spreading from human to human.
So, while you don’t need to be concerned about getting swine flu from the pork you eat, you still should be concerned with protecting yourself from the virus.
Here are some steps to take to help prevent the transmission of this swine flu (or any other flu virus).
*Avoid contact with others who have symptoms of respiratory flu.
* Avoid traveling to areas where there are swine flu outbreaks.
* Stay home if you do get sick and contact health autorities.
* Cover your nose and mouth with a tissue when you cough or sneeze. Throw the tissue in the trash immediately and wash your hands.
* Wash your hands frequently.
* Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth (which is how a flu virus on your hands can enter your body).
The CDC says that the virus is “susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir.”
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..and now an earthquake in mexico..
Almost sounds like the apocalypse. I reckon it won't do any good to the spreading of the flu-
singing Oh HAARPy daaays, oh HAARPy daaays
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Don't worry it's just a card game published in ... 1990 .. like the guys were somehow medium or from secret service see below story
Strangely the game company has been visited by the secret service on March 1 1990 as reported on their site "sjgames vs. the Secret Service": "A large amount of equipment was seized, including four computers, two laser printers, some loose hard disks and a great deal of assorted hardware. One of the computers was the one running the Illuminati BBS".
tinyurl.com/d3du5b-
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That's creepy as hell.
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Creepy ? What about this
OFFICIAL DOCUMENT From Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century
A Report of the Project for the New American Century (Year 2000)
(PNAC (Project for a New American Century) is a group founded in 1997 by - among others - Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz (later President of the World Bank), arguably the ideological father of the group.)
tinyurl.com/pnacreports
“… the art of warfare … will be vastly different than it is today … “combat” likely will take place in new dimensions … advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”
You can check the document is genuine yourself by downloding the pdf here:
tinyurl.com/pnacreports
as I have done myself to make this screenshot of the page :
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We have it here in the UK now...but very mild cases it seems:
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Hi,
I just want to say that the swine flu is not deadly. All cases in the US have been mild, and it is not resistant to treatment with Tamiflu and Relenza if started early. Everyone has recovered in the US.
There have been deaths from pneumonia in Mexico, but the link is not clear - were there underlying health problems for instance...TB, HIV, decreased immune function?
www.emaxhealth.com/1020/90/30644/swine-flu-cause-pneumonia-mexico-not-fully...
It is a mix of Avian flu, Human influenza A (without the typical subtypes) and Asian flu virus.
The mystery seems to be why were there deaths in Mexico? It is not historically uncommon to see high initial death rates when a virus mutates, followed by mild cases of the same disease...Watch and wait, and do all the things we know we should to reduce the spread.-
"It is a mix of Avian flu, Human influenza A (without the typical subtypes) and Asian flu virus."
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Gilead (GILD) is the stock you want for Tamaflu.. it's only gone up a little, unlike the tiny stocks that are flying that don't even have a vaccine (BCRX, NVAX in particular, but there are about 5-6)
Be careful with stocks these days - one piece of bad news and your stock could plunge overnight while you sleep, you wake up with a big loss.
Today I had DNDN for the Provenge results on prostate cancer - stock was doing fine, suddenly plunged 40% and was halted - obvious manipulation, now it's supposedly back up, but who knows how these things happen, there's MUCHO CORRUPTION occurring in the U.S. right now, as if the RATS are hoarding up money for the coming Depression, if we aren't already there.
Look for companies with cures, help them w investments and you may have two positives working at once: healing the sick, and rewarding the creators of the cures financially.
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At this point, if they don't cancel our cruise, Carnival won't be making any port stops in Mexico. And the Mayan ruins were SO CLOSE I could taste them!
Sorry to sound selfish, but we desperately needed a vacation & had been looking forward to this for a long time now. I know life's still good & we're tremendously fortunate. Just a bummer.
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ugh a guy was apparently quarantined today for swine flu at my campus. Im quite worried. I mean what if he ate at the same dining hall or was in the same lecture hall?! I hope its only a rumor
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Viruses are constantly mutating and adapting to new drugs. It's important to strengthen our body's natural defenses (theconsciouslife.com/5-simple-ways-to-boost-your-immune-health.htm) so that we become less susceptible to new viruses. Take care, everyone! My thoughts are with you. -
Wow, the swine flu ads from Google are already up. -
It's the aporkalypse!
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I live in Mexico and most of us are very concerned. Classes (and many other events) have been suspended across the nation here and there have been various deaths.
It might be too little too late, but at least it's an attempt to contain the virus. Yet there is a lack of medication and protective masks around the country. -
My sympathies with the people of Mexico who really are suffering from this pandemic but the panic round the rest of the world am not so sure of. Didn't we have all this with bird flu and it wasn't the end of the world then?-
How about those possible of bird spreading the virus after getting touch with those patient ?
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More and more will die. the one who shake hand with Obama died. but obama is not infected. hoho. dont feel sympathy to mexican only. Butto the whole world as it is going to spread wide, more then you can imagine. Remember Egypt? Remember the black death on 1340? Remember Spain 1918 pandemic?
Not to scare you, but
And I saw, and behold, a pale horse: and he that sat upon him, his name was Death; and Hades followed with him. And there was given unto them authority over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth. -
Sir Bertrand Russell, Philisopher and Nobel Prize ( nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1950/ ) , advocates in 1953 in his essay "The Impact of Science on Society":
www.amazon.co.uk/Impact-Science-Society-Bertrand-Russell/dp/041510906X
"...At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars.... War ... has hitherto been disappointing in this respect ... but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation.... The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other peoples'...." -
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I hope to see it blow over to Canada along with the serial killer they never caught who has a fetish for chopped feet that keep washing up on Canadian shores.
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Ah the media's goal of Mass Hysteria is working well. It's a great chance for us all to forget other topics and focus on something random. This was my blog rant today LOL
uncertainlife.com-
Your site wouldn't let me comment, re controlling the masses through the media, and NOT telling the real story (the "word verification" kept coming up blank, so I could never "verify".
I was trying to comment that a few years ago, the Vatican was arguing about re-teaching the resurrection as a parable, as originally intended - while some thought this would likely drive away "fundamentalists". Suddenly, the SEX scandal broke! This diverted everyone's attention away and now we had a situation where they could point the finger at "a few bad apples" and avoid the bigger issues!
(they sent the Crusaders to Jerusalem to "retrieve the body of Jesus, bring it back to Rome" - how quickly we forget 1000 yr old history!) - the point here is not these details, but how they DIVERTED ATTENTION away from a more controversial topic! Myth and parable vs reality..
They let popularity determine dogma apparently - whatever the followers want, that's the religious teaching! too funny... "I created my religion and I dig it!", to paraphrase Firesign Theater.
Those in power often divert attention away with trivia - swine flu vs the collapse of western capitalism and banking! (flu - I'm really scared now, forget not being able to find a job or eat)
you will NEVER get the "straight scoop" from anyone in power. you'll get "what they want you to believe".
Jose (nationalrage.blogspot.com)
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Swine flu: What you need to know
* Updated 16:05 28 April 2009 by Debora MacKenzie
www.newscientist.com/article/dn17026-swine-flu-what-you-need-to-know.html
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45 confirmed cases in NYC.
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This does seem to be a serious situation: and being handled remarkably well. I think it helps that we've been through this sort of thing before.
(Shameless plug) I've made a sort of table of contents in one blog, with links to relevant posts and background information: apatheticlemming.blogspot.com/2009/04/swine-flu-2009.html It includes a description of the WHO Alert Phases, and the CDC's definition of "public health emergency."-
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Good post - worth checking out... kudos! - Jose
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I love how they tell you there is nothing to worry about then they have the school recording calling you up saying if your kids have a fever of 100 or any flue like simptoms take them to a docter before letting them come to school. Not sure when they have done that last.
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WEEERREEE ALLLL GONNNNNAAA DIIEEE!!!!!!
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Governments will NEVER tell the public all the secrets. They have to prevent panic at all costs. "National security" is a broad umbrella they can now use for just about any media releases they want to put out. The networks and news agencies will read the gov't releases verbatim if for national security.
So a few people decide "whats best for the public", and we'll find out about it half a century later.
In the 90's the army admitted to dosing San Francisco with airborne flu germs in the 50's and sent 20,000 to the hospital. A civilian population was "voluneered" for bio-warfare research without their knowledge.
THis is what so-called "democratic" and "free" governments do to their subjects, imagine what goes on worldwide! YIKES, we are like gnats, at the mercy of any wind those in power want to blow our way.-
"in the 90s..."
vs not admitting present spraying?
www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a4bt_chemtrails-exposed-on-discovery-cha_shortf...
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why are there more cases in NY than anywhere else? didn't this start in Mexico - can someone tell the swine flu to get the phuck out of my state
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Obama calls for $1.8B to stem spread of swine flu
Mexico City economy losing $70M a day during swine flu shutdown
U.S. President Barack Obama called for $2 billion to fight the spread of the virus that causes swine flu Tuesday, as Cuba became the first country to suspend air travel to Mexico, where the virus is thought to have originated.
In a letter sent to Congress, Obama said an additional $1.8 billion will help fund a plan to build drug stockpiles and monitor future cases of the disease, which has been linked to dozens of deaths in Mexico. He said the money will also help international efforts to battle the flu.
Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, who read the letter to reporters, said the flu outbreak requires "prudent planning" and not panic.
www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/28/health-canada-mexico865.html-
But now swine flu it needs a new name. We have offended..where is offended blogger? This has turned into an economic and political issue now because of pork bans and those offended by dirty pigs.
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That's really not that much money..
Obama says we need it?? ::writes the check::
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Swine flu is now H1N1. cos its not spread from pig to human but is from human to human. so the name changed.
Book of Revelation
And I saw, and behold, a pale horse: and he that sat upon him, his name was Death; and Hades followed with him. And there was given unto them authority over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth.-
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This thread is full of links to information form authoritative sources. The information indicates that swine flu and avian flu strains combined mutated and resulted in a human respiratory flu.
@endlesslyshesaid
stuff like that is why I turned to atheism
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@TT: You aren't lying haha... any little chance to drop scripture. Bleck
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Bah, it's in my area now.
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Swine flu approaching phase five pandemic, WHO says
Updated Wed. Apr. 29 2009 12:04 PM ET
www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090429/swine_cases_090429/20...
What is a pandemic?
A pandemic is an epidemic of infectious disease that has spread across a large region, such as across continents or worldwide.
But a pandemic can be mild or severe, depending on how many deaths the disease causes. When most of us think of flu pandemics, we think of the 1918 Spanish Flu. But remember that the 1968 Hong Kong flu epidemic killed only about 700,000 worldwide. That's less than many yearly outbreaks of garden-variety seasonal flu.
If the current human swine flu outbreak is declared a pandemic, it is more likely to be of the 1968 variety because we have been exposed to several parts of this virus before. We also have good public health systems that are ready for a pandemic with antiviral medications and infection control measures.
How can I protect myself from this virus?
Since influenza spreads through spit and spray as well as contact with contaminated surfaces, the usual good personal hygiene habits are the best defence.
* Wash your hands repeatedly through the day with soap and water or with alcohol-based hand sanitizers
* Avoid touching you mouth, nose or eyes with your hands unless they've been washed
* When coughing, cough into a tissue and throw it in the garbage
* If you cough into your hand, wash your hands immediately
* Sanitize surfaces that may have come into contact with the virus
* If you become ill with flu-like symptoms, stay home
With human flu, the virus is most contagious between the second and third days after infection -- sometimes before symptoms appear -- and the virus remains contagious for about a week in adults and up to 10 days in kids. -
I dont believe too much on this flu, i think there is something weird.
Here is more info:
healthmoneyandloveblog.com/swine-flu-
This flu is the predictable result of CAFO (contained high density animal feeding operations AKA factory farming). Does Smithfields ring a bell?
A Food System that Kills - Swine Flu is the Meat Industry's Latest Plague
Mexico is in the midst of a hellish repeat of Asia's bird flu experience, though on a more deadly scale. Once again, the official response from public authorities has come too late and bungled in cover-ups. And once again, the global meat industry is at the centre of the story, ramping up denials as the weight of evidence about its role grows.
Just five years after the start of the H5N1 bird flu crisis, and after as many years of a global strategy against influenza pandemics coordinated by the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE), the world is now reeling from a swine flu disaster. The global strategy has failed and needs to be replaced with a public health system that the public can trust.
Read the full article and view the videos here -> www.grain.org/articles/?id=48
While it has not been widely reported, the region around the community of La Gloria is not only home to large pig farms but is also home to many large poultry farms.
Photos are from this website, where you can get more information: enlace.vazquezchagoya.com/?p=812
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Beware the boomerang effect. This is only the first wave. This flu will come back in the fall much stronger. Masks, they say, don't really help.
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"Analysis done so far suggests what they are dealing with is a mild virus and nowhere near as dangerous as the H5N1 avian flu strain that has caused scientists so much concern over the past decade."
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The swine flu appears no different than any other flu. Normal precautions are adequate.
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It's quite impressive how the poor choice of naming for the virus as "swine flu" is having such world wide impacts. Numerous nations are seizing the moment to fulfill elements of their own agendas.
With Dubai clearing out all pork and Egypt killing all 300000 pigs in the country, I think we have some religious zealots taking the teachings of their religion to an extreme. The victims in this case (besides the pigs) are the minorities in these countries who can eat pork so its an easy decision to attack those who may be considered unwanted without facing repercussions.
At the same time all the pork bans allow countries to invoke some protectionist measures in this poor financial lcimate that would otherwise cause them trouble. I wrote an article on this in my blog. -
I'm not especially worried, though at the library we are stocking extra hand sanitizer and sanitizing wipes for keyboards, mice, etc. The children's librarian also decided to remove all of the toys including the puzzles, building blocks and dinosaurs since those things do pass through so many little hands and sometimes unfortunately mouths as well. -
I'm in northern Illinois. However, we got a call this afternoon that the schools in our district will be closed next week because of a "possible case" of flu. -
I just had to get tested for the virus, friend just came back from Mexico and her son got taken ill.
None of us are infected though
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