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Take Advantage of.....
Posted by sjtavo • 9/30/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: taking advantage of, using someone
Is it wrong to take advantage of someone who lets you do so? And I'm speaking of someone who is educated, has their head on straight, isn't too young or naive to know better...just the average normal every-day schmo....
Nor do I mean in some evil, sadistic manner (though I guess that would have to be defined)...as in not taking advantage of someone for a sick/evil purpose, just more "topical" like money or material things LOL)... but if you can play on someone's weakness, ie: desire for sex, and get what you want, is that really wrong?
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I've given up trying to figure out what's right and wrong. I guess the two of you will do whatever you do. -
Not at all -- I do it all the time. -
I suppose it depends on your view of whether you should aim to protect those weaker than yourself.-
I agree. Its all in perspective. Also, take into consideration that some people want to be abused. They like that role. They want to give you that opening to take advantage. Its their way of saying "take me nowwww" -
Yes, but I'm not personally a big proponent of saying, "Well, they're asking for it, so who am I not to oblige?"
I have to live with myself first. -
That is a great point ThrifShop! You have to be able to live with yourself. It doesn't matter if other people think it is right or wrong. If you think it is acceptable and can justify it to yourself then fill your boots. Personally, I don't think I would go out of my way to take advantage of someone. I am sure I have used people in the past but it is never a feeling that I like.
These people need to stand up for themselves and maybe we should be helping them learn this instead of taking full advantage of their weakness. We all have flaws so what kind of world would this be if we all preyed upon everyone else's weaknesses? -
I don't take advantage of people weaker than myself, just take advantage of the fact that I can get what I want from who I want when I want it. And of course (if you've ever read my blog) I am talking about men because I'm faithful to my chicks. I've gotten windows replaced, doors replaced, yard cleaned up, shower heads installed, locks changed, car fixed, etc... by taking advantage of the right guy with the right skills who can't say no to knocking boots.
wow - typing that, I prostitute myself for home and car improvements! LOL
I never feel bad though - they always get something in return. I can verbally abuse them, fight with them, make them feel 3 inches tall and they keep coming back so I keep taking advantage. -
SJ - Your post today explains exactly why they keep coming back. I don't think trading sex for favours is "taking advantage" of them. I think it is a form of bartering. You are both getting something in return for your services.
Have you ever thought that maybe the guys are using you?? They feel important because they get to use their skills to help out a pretty lady and they get rewarded with sex. -
As long as I get what I want, they can use me all they want. The difference is, if they treated ME the way I treat THEM, I'd never speak to them again. Yet they'll take whatever I throw at them, pout for a few hours and then come back for more.
I guess because I don't allow myself to be taken advantage of (or at least I don't feel taken advantage of because I always benefit from sex) it amazes me that men have allowed me to do it for years. I started this trend years ago - sleep with a guy, next day he's at my house blowing leaves for four hours and then I get invited back.
Hmmm, maybe they're just nice guys who like doing nice things like taking five hours to change rotors and brake pads and I reward them with sex.... -
When you put it like that, it definitely sounds like you are getting the better deal!
Have you ever run into guys that this just doesn't work with? I don't think I would go out of my way to help a booty call like that. If it was a relationship then yes but a booty call? I am not saying I haven't been "whipped" in the past but it was by a girlfriend, not a simple play toy. This whole concept intrigues me. -
that's what always kills me! For years, whoever I've slept with will always do favors for me - and it's not like I sit there and say "I'll blow you if you blow my leaves" it's just "wow, my brakes are squeaking" and next thing I know I'm told to get the parts for brake pads and rotors, come spend the day with his Mom while he and his Dad fix my car (This happened while a POA was still with his girlfriend AND his parents knew we slept together). I mention I think I want to change my locks, a guy will take me to the store, I'll buy them and they'll spend an hour installing them. no promises of booty, they just do it. It's really helpful, actually, since my brother is really busy with work and my Dad is in Savannah for half the year, I still get things done plus sex to boot! LOL
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That is crazy! Good for you! I don't think that is taking advantage of people. You are just the benefactor of people doing nice things for you. You must be really good at what you do!
At least they still make you pay for the parts! -
[Hmmm, maybe they're just nice guys who like doing nice things like taking five hours to change rotors and brake pads and I reward them with sex....]
I do nice things for people all the time and sex is never my motivation for doing so. -
Sounds like they are using you. Sex is well worth a little yard work to most men.
On the other hand, "wrong" is a perspective. If in YOUR perspective you are treating these guys "wrong" then you are.
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I feel extremely guilty if I take advantage of someone. It has to be a fair deal - 'let's take advantage of each other, as long as we're both aware of it'.
I've never offered sex to a man in return for favors. I have sex because I want to. -
I'm not one to believe that sex should be used as a bargaining chip, so I would never "take advantage" of someone to obtain sex. Sex is meant to be shared between both parties. If one party doesn't want the sex, then there is no sex to be had.
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Consequently, you cannot take advantage of me in that way, either.
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I'm with Richer on this one...
Bartering is NOT using.
However one must live with oneself... so it is determined by ones own values or beliefs that one must stand and adhere to.-
I can always live with myself - I never feel bad about anything I do because I make conscious decisions and as a result, I don't believe in regret. Just about the only person who can make me feel bad is my Mother and that's a long shot.
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Using the weak to get what I want warms my heart.-
Consider joining jerry's bad guys thread
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I'm great at hanging drapes. When can I come over?
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hahahaha! Are you actually great at hanging drapes???
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It's the one talent I truly possess.
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actually I need some new drapes after I get my blinds installed LMAO
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as long as he knows that the score is, than there is no need to feel guilty or bad. he's a big boy. -
Sounds like the he is the user! lol! -
I am a great looking hunk. Can I decorate your bed?
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You should take it on your honor to give back to them a little sometime. At the very least, be a good friend.-
I do give back - sexual favors. I'm a brutally honest friend to my number one POA who's also a huge pain in the ass... I give him advice, we argue, we care about each other, he's completely undatable but so totally useful around the house. He knows I'll satisfy his needs and I know he'll trim my trees this Fall. =)
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Hm...how is that different from prostitution? Seriously. -
I've already said it pretty much sounds like I'm prostituting myself but I'd like to note that the fact that these guys will do things for me is just a perk in my mind.....and quite useful when you're a single girl who owns a home and knows next to nothing about home maintenance aside from cleaning LOL
Also keep in mind, I'm not looking to date any of these guys - there's a reason they are just POA's - it's because they're not datable but are great in bed. My point of this discussion was how incredible it is to me that they continue to come back because I'm not the nicest person. Case in point, last night I went out with a POA for a couple drinks before we got it on. The last thing I had said to him prior to texting yesterday morning with my proposition was that he was as annoying as a girl, demanding so much attention and texting all day and that I really only needed to hear from him when I was needing a booty call. He brought that up and said it hurt his feelings (he's 6'5, 300 pounds and a mammoth man - please tell me you find the humor in this huge guy saying I hurt his feelings). I looked at him, laughed and said "really? but you were annoying and regardless, you're here now aren't you?" And now he's going to trim my trees for me. =)
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Well it still kinda seems like you're being taken advantage of to. You're a sure thing. Men don't really give a damn if they're being treated badly. I mean if they know they're gonna get some they will usually fix a lock,pay a car note etc...I mean he still has the gf he goes home to at the end of the day.-
I dissagree. I think plenty of men would dissagree too. No one likes to be treated badly. I think most men prefer to be wanted. -
I agree with HtR.
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I call it sexy secretary syndrome....you know you're good enough to work for me,but not good enough to go down the isle with.
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Yes, of course. All human beings should be viewed as valuable in their own right and not as commodities to be used in the way that's most beneficial to us. That kind of thinking impacts more than the particular person in question--it impacts the whole perception of how it's appropriate for humans to interact with one another and how we view one another.
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Also what I said I mean in the nicest way possible. I mean I know a girl has needs just like a dude, and I totally don't believe in the double standard. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I just personally wouldn't use sex as a bartering tool. If an man is unworthy of dating he's definately unworthy of my ASSETS... start watching the DIY network if you need your deadbolt changed,ya feel me.
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Oh no offense taken (it's really hard to offend me) and I feel where you're coming from. I have an unusually high sex drive so I need my POA's - they're just more useful when they have skills outside of the bedroom I can use them for.
Also - want to clarify, it's never been "hey if you trim my trees I'll sleep with you" it's more "I need my trees trimmed" and he jumps at it because he wants to stay in my good graces because that means he gets another invite for booty kind of thing.
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Gotcha
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Men are so damn easy.
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OMG yes they are - it's sad. I have never been one to ask how high when a man says jump. But geez ow - you offer booty and you can get anything from a man! LOL
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But only the weak ones. Why even bother?
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not true. You have to buy me dinner first
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Actually, I have had this conversation before and my answer is the same now as it was then.
It is wrong to take advantage of someone that way. Particularly as women, men who are interested in you have a tendency to want to take care of you. Buy you presents, pay for your dinner, fix things around your apartment. Unless you are genuinely interested in them back, you absolutely should not take advantage of that generosity.
I had an old roommate who would blithely accept expensive gifts, dinner, help around the house from a guy she KNEW had a severe crush on her. She was not interested in him at all, but strung him along for several YEARS.
Was he a dope for continuing to try and take care of her? Yes. Was she a bit of a heartless person for taking advantage of it? Absolutely.
I just wouldn't want anyone to treat me like that, so I don't treat men like that.-
I can understand that to lead some along who was extremely interested in you would be wrong. Here's the thing - these are POA's - these guys understand that there are no feelings involved, it's strictly a booty call arrangement. I have no hesitation in telling them I have a date, am seeing another booty call, etc.... These guys all know exactly what the game is - so there's no deception or stringing along on my part.
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Funny, this is sounding to me more like a character in a magazine and their made-up exploits.
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Well you can believe it's made up, but if you read my blog, many of my posts have to do with my manipulation of men - and yes, I know I'm manipulative and these guys allow me to continue to be so, thus I see no reason to stop. I'm very talented and kinky in the bedroom, the guys keep coming back for more, if they tick me off I cut them off. Thus, they'll do random acts of kindness to stay in my good graces. I've been called addictive, I've been proposed to during such exploits, I've been offered adult roles. And I'm an Accountant! I really don't make this stuff up - this is my life in a small city in Ohio.
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It's hardly something to be proud of. -
Yeah, it hardly is.
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Surely you don't expect me to be ashamed?! It's simple - I like being single - sure a boyfriend or husband would be nice to have, but I don't spend my days pining away for one. I have physical needs and I get them fulfilled. I have men who can do so for me, plus they offer to do projects around my house, with my car, etc...
I'd say, considering it's usually men who are the players and manipulating women to get what they want, it's pretty empowering to turn the tables. And as I've said all day - it's not like I sit there and say "I won't sleep with you unless you take off the storm door that half flew the hinges during the storm tonight." They will go over, remove it, haul it away and replace it for me to stay on my good side to continue to sleep with me. I get double the bonus - new door and booty time.
Is the concept of friends "with benefits" that foreign to some of you? -
Just seems a very shallow and almost sociopathic way to live your life to me. Why not go the whole hog and charge them by the hour?
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So because I'm promiscuous and men I sleep with do things for me, I'm a whore?
People seem to be coming from the perspective of I'm selling sex for favors. I'm not. The sex is first and foremost. What amazes me is what these guys will do, without me telling them "do this or I'll never sleep with you again" to stay on my good side so they can continue to sleep with me.
For exmample - after I got divorced but still had my huge house, I slept with Danny - I mention I have huge trees in my yard and don't feel like raking them. He comes over the next day with a leaf blower. I never asked him to do that - he offered, did it, and had me back over the next night. Yea for me - I got my leaves done for free and a great dinner and a great night. What's whorish about that? -
It's not that you do these things, it's that you're bragging about it.
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You can rationalise it anyway you want but whichever way you cut it it's sad and as VK said bragging about it does you no favours at all.
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Why is it sad? She doesn't seem sad about it. And what's wrong with her bragging about it? There's more than one way to live.
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Would you want your daughter to live that way? I meant sad as in pathetic not upsetting.
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Why judge? There are all kinds of sexual lifestyles out there.
And I'm sure my daughter couldn't care less how I want her to live. -
It's one thing to live your life the way that makes you happy, it's another to act like you're getting away with something.
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Hey she can sleep with who she likes it is no concern of mine but if I came on here and bragged about sleeping with women and then taking advantage of them financially people would call me a Gigolo and they would be right.
That's half the trouble with today's society people seem to think it's okay to take advantage of someone and that we must all live this dog eat dog existence and that by "getting one over on someone" we are somehow validating ourselves and succeeding in life. She has just stumbled onto a form of prostitution and has constructed a fantasy around it to make herself feel better and validate the emptiness. -
Anin-I understand what you're saying. But you're abrogating the responsibility of the men involved. You're acting as if they're victims, and they're not.
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Like I said it is no concern of mine what they or she do I was just voicing my opinion on the matter and I would have exactly the same opinion if women were the "victims" it's the attitude as much as the "crime" that I am taking issue with. It seems a sad reflection on a person's morality that they would feel that what they are doing is laudable in some way.
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I agree with nothingprofound! Why it may not be the way that I would live my life it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with it. As well, I don't think SJ is really trying to brag about it. Maybe she just wants to see if anyone else has seen this type of behaviour from guys?
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I love being taken advantage of, particularly on weekends when I adopt the more feminine guise of, "Mandy". It's quite liberating, honestly.-
You've put that Barry Manilow song in my head now.
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lol.
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I just can't believe this is coming out of ur mouth donkey....u are usually not theis way. I can't believe you're not sayin " hey baby need your oil changed"
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I'm so glad to hear a woman say this. Honesty is very refreshing. I've been on the other side of this, doing home repairs with the offer of sex and I guess that honesty might make the deal less appealing.
I mean if you actually were honest and said, "I'm taking advantage of you to get my door replaced but I do plan to put out rather than pay you". It would only be fair for me to say, "It would just be cheap meaningless sex because I can't see any future in being with a prostitute who I can't respect. And you don't even have to be that attractive because easiness can do the work of attractiveness".-
Hmm...can't help but notice that you didn't say "It would only be fair for me to say 'no freakin' way'"...
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And I can't help but notice that you didn't say, "MY roof is leaking".
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Ha. I'm still waiting for you to set up that badminton net for us.
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@MadameX: I wouldn't criticize him. People have the right to react and insult how they please in these circumstances. If you can't take the heat of it, you shouldn't be putting the heat out to begin with.
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Jeremy...as usual, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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@MadameX: I'm not sure why I put a "you" there. I've had very little sleep. In any case, I was saying that you don't need to be polite with a girl playing sexual games.
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Well, I agree with that, but I wasn't questioning his manners...I was questioning the fact that he seemed to be saying he wouldn't turn her down.
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Oh I see what you mean. I guess I read it wrong the first time.
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Let's see....
no i'm not bragging about my promiscuity (not that I'm ashamed of it because I just don't care). I'm trying to discuss "taking advantage" of people when they just allow you to. In my case, it happens to be for sex. For someone else, it may be for money, for gifts, massages, whatever. If someone keeps coming back to be taken advantage of, and you've made it clear you have no intention of dating them or getting involved with them - is that so wrong?
as for whether you agree with my lifestyle or not, it makes no difference. and my parents actually do know that I'm happily not single but that I do sleep with men on a casual basis - they also know that I take precautions to not get pregnant or get diseases, and as long as I'm not compromising my life for the men, they don't care. It's not a dinner conversation but I don't lie to my parents, nor to the men I sleep with.
I am a brutally honest woman - I don't mislead the men I sleep with - I don't strike deals with them - I sleep with them regardless - they do favors for me without asking for sex - they do it to try to stay on my good side so I will sleep with them again.
Anyone know a good painter? LOL-
If you are being taken advantage of in exchange for money, that's called a "job".
What you're describing now is not taking advantage of someone and seems a bit like you are backing down from your original post. -
Oh no - I know I am taking advantage of them - because I know by continuing to sleep with them, when I need something done, they'll do it for me because they'll continue to get sex if they keep me happy.
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Here's a thought, and I know this sounds TOTALLY CRAZY.
Have sex with men that you find attractive and pay people to work on your house based on their skills and knowledge.
Insane, I know, but give it a try.
Think about it, would you like to miss out on a job that you were perfect for because the employer was sleeping with a less qualified applicant?
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Men are allowed to be promiscuous, but women aren't. Next year we'll be entering 2010, and I can't believe that this double standard still exists.
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I don't mind promiscuous women
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amen! if a guy sleeps around, or has a girl who will come do his laundry after they sleep with him, it's good on him. if a woman does that, she's a slut or prostituting herself. I just look at is as we both get something out of it, and I think I get the better end of the deal! =)
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I don't think men should be allowed to be promiscuous. I consider it a little worse. Don't know why, or what rational explanation I could come up with, I just do.
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So sjtavo, want to take advantage of me?
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Why is it that every time someone says something negative about promiscuity, people jump to assume that they only have a problem with promiscuity in women?
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The real question is why do people feel the need to judge what other people do?
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I judge judgmental people
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dbowles you handsome devil =) i'll happily take advantage of you LOL
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The real question, dbowles? There's only one valid question in the world and all those but yours are "unreal"? Sounds kind of...judgmental.
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I'm very judgmental. But way to avoid answering the question.
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The question you substituted for mine, you mean?
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That question, and your own question.
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Obviously I don't know the answer to my own question--that's why I asked it.
Your question is just a tired anthem of social irresponsibility--good fodder for the thread about how everyone would mind his or her own business while his alleged best friend's spouse cheated and brought home potentially fatal diseases because hey...to each his own. -
My bad I just assumed you had some grand answer to your question, as that is usually the case.
I'm glad there are people like you who are worried what others do, it makes me feel, uhh... safe.
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That's because you're an evolved specimen, Derek. Either that, or promiscuous women are of great use to you
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Both probably.
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I judge judgmental people
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I also need an easy friend. I want three boyfriends. I want to be a female Hugh Hefner
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LOL boyfriends are overrated - I just have my POA list in my phone =) it was too hard to remember all their names (here's another sexist remark - since i'm bad at remember their names, every man is "Babe" - that way I never call him the wrong name!)
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I think it's wrong whether a man or woman does it. I can't even believe this is a question, but then again there are obviously people who do it all the time. What happened to honor, integrity and chivalry?
I guess they died out along with Zorro and Robin Hood? -
Whatever happened to live and let live?
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It's not wrong. Everyone has their freedom to do anything then want even though they are taking advantage of someone else, just be responsible for the outcome. -
It depends on the person. Some love being taken advantage of. as ongg as some benefit goes to both parties lol! -
Is anyone else starting to feel like the sole purpose of this thread was for the OP to let us all know that she's so good in bed that men will do anything for her in the hopes that she'll sleep with them again?
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Hmmmm I share that feeling too and not only when it comes to this thread. I get the same feeling when it comes to to every thread she posts, but I suppose I could be reading her wrong. -
@TT: I don't think that's her original purpose but I do think it's certainly on her mind. Probably slips out inadvertently.
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regardless of how good I am in bed, I like sparking a good debate. My question was regarding taking advantage of people who keep coming back. I reiterated a couple times it's not just sex, it's people who will give you money, buy you things, carpool, watch your kids, etc.... people who, no matter what you tell them or do to them, keep coming back for more and more. Y'all got focused on my sexcapades - sex happens to be my best example.
I personally feel sex is, and should be, an important part of anyone's life. there are many benefits to a healthy sex life (treatment of menstrual cramps, migraines, headaches, stress, etc...) but that's beside the point. I have never been one to be a timid lover or a timid girl nor do I give blowjobs in a bar. I am very selective as to whom I'll take on as a lover. Judging me for my sex life is not what I was going for here, not that judgement really phases me.
so yes - my blog, and perhaps my many of my discussion threads, revolve around sex - I think you can bring it into just about anything. Like it or not, it's an animal instinct - some people embrace it, others suppress it. -
@stjavo: I think they were more reacting to the "yeah me," sort of self-promoting attitude, in it. Not entirely a bad thing, but can sometimes get on people's nerves.
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Well I'm not trying to earn a prize LOL I'm very blatantly sexual and I forget that for those of you here who don't know me, it can come off as I'm showing off. I'm really not (case in point, I took my netbook to the bar last night as I was posting and everyone there was saying - yea, this is just how you are, what are we missing?) In other words, they're used to it.
so time to move on - it's Friday, I've paid the United Way so I can wear jeans, I'm off to get some coffee and I've posted some Bo Burnham videos on my blog - and given some of the responses I've had to my discussion points, some people may condemn me to hell if they watch them. But I think Bo's hilarious and an equal-opportunity "making fun of the world and its population" kind of guy. -
So selective, you can't even remember their names?
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NO! I don't have any kids - I was giving examples of any way someone might take advantage of anyone else (everyone's fixated on my promiscuity rather than the discussion point). And it's not that I can't remember their names, it's just easier to not worry about it and call everyone Babe. Nothing's worse than a slip up of calling someone by another person's name.
Wasn't looking to get judged by who I sleep with or why, was looking for people to be introspective, not only answer the question of is it wrong to manipulate able-bodied and minded people who continuously allow themselves to be manipulated IN ANY WAY, and whether any of you do so.
I sleep around - whoop de do. I also pay my taxes, work 60 hours a week, support charities and my community and volunteer. That's not what the question was. I led it with what my prime example is, that's all. -
Well then I apologize, I misunderstood.
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I'm not some irresponsible twit - if I had children, I highly doubt I could pull this off because I would never in a million years sleep with random men coming and going from my house and have my child witness that (see, I do have morals).
However, all I have are neighbors (die-hard Christians at that) who love me and laugh at the trysts I involve myself in. They love me for me and for our friendship - my sleeping around has no bearing on that. I think it also helped that I cried with them when their dog died but that's another story (gasp! she DOES have feelings!) -
@stjavo: I love you too. If I seemed judgemental I'm sorry, mostly I'm just trying to understand. You're a great lady Samantha, even if I do disagree with some of your actions. And no, I was not trying to condemn you with the "yeah me" thing, it's more something I can relate to because my mother is a Texan and Texans are criticized for the same thing.
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Like I said earlier whatever floats your boat....just not for me
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Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned.... but woman hardly realizes or cares when she's on self-destruct
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Whatever that's supposed to mean...
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thats what she's supposed not to understand
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well I'm still confused but here's the thing crazyTsu - I'm not a woman scorned. I've been like this since I was 17 years old. The only scorn I had back then was -well, nothing, I was a teenager. So dig deep and find another because that one doesn't apply to me. If you'd like, I'll gather quotes from friends from college and now and you'll see I've always been like this - and men have always catered to it. I learned the art of sex as a reward from my ex-husband. hmmmmm LOL
realizing most of you probably think I'm my town's biggest slut (I'm far from it) and just out for attention or whatnot (though attention from virtual people seems asinine). this is just who I am - I have three degrees, I'm an avid reader and writer, I'm an accountant, and I'm a bit wild and manipulative. But until men stop letting me get away with, I see no need to change my ways - they are a means to an end. -
I know women who are exactly like you. Smart, successful, intelligent, well-read, diverse, manipulative and a little egocentric. You can love them or hate them, but you can't change them. I have learned it the hard way. Good luck to you. I don't envy the men who get tangled up with you.
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I don't envy the men either - they allow themselves to be manipulated. Great for me, sad for them. One day I'll be tamed (I actually am a great girlfriend/spouse), I just hope it's not any time soon. :-)
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I am sure you can be a great girlfriend/spouse, if you want to be, that is, which is most probably not always the case.
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it will be too late by then.. and then you will be a bitter hag
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Sjtavo,
Why do these men allow themselves to be taken advantage of by you? Because they're obviously weak and spineless. Any woman can take advantage of a doormat, it doesn't take any special skills whatsoever.-
That and as she's indicated some of them are undateable. She's got a monopsony (only one available buyer in a market, drives down prices.) This may be the best thing they've got in their near future.
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aspot: That's just it - granted some are weak and sad, but a few of them are stereotypical "strong" men, solid ego's, etc.... yet they cow-tow and it honestly just cracks me up.
galaxypress:I have purposely NOT dated anyone seriously for almost three years - prior to that, I was with my ex-husband for a total of 10 years between dating and marriage and my former fiance for three years. I am loving, charismatic, domesticated, etc... I'm great wiht the idea of monogamy and a relationship - but I choose not to limit myself right now because honestly, finding a guy who's worth getting serious about is very difficult in my town because I have high standards (I know, hard to believe, but I do when it comes to committing to a relationship!) -
@sjtavo Yes, I have heard the thing about the high standards. You sound exactly like the woman I know. She is also divorced and was with her prior husband for 10 years or so and now can't find a partner she really wants to be with as no one is worth it. For all I know it might even be true. Maybe the two of you are doubles or something. Let me guess, you are stunningly beautiful with a gorgeous body. Yep, men will fall for it every time. I wish you the best of luck in finding a worthwhile opponent, ah, partner.
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Do you agree with this Sjtavo? This is perhaps your answer as to why they allow themselves to be manipulated by you. (jeremyjanson's answer)
Perhaps in a more saturated 'market' the competition would be stiffer (excuse the pun) and therefore their tolerance level of your behavior would be lower.-
I don't know honestly why they do it - it's really a mystery to me. Some people have said I'm the one being taken advantage of - which I could agree with except everything is on my terms, according to my whims and moods. So I really don't feel taken advantage of because I call all the shots.
Regardless, this has certainly been an interesting thread to say the least. My friend Mikey summed it up well. I told him I just slept with a POA I thought I had written up but I was desperate - his reponse was "well, you were due." That's my friends' reactions to this - then again, we all have POA's so maybe it's an Ohio thing...
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Some woman like selling there asses and some guys can only get woman by paying for it. Thats just the way of he world....... -
I think that if the person is aware that they are being taken advantage of and they allow it, by all means. Why shouldn't you benefit from their sheer stupidity? -
No. If a person is going to allow themselves to be taken advantage of, then they will get what they deserve. Now if the person is naive and just to stupid to no better, then they will either learn from the experience, or they wont. However, if someone allows them self to be taken advantage of, then they are just as wrong as the person who is taking advantage of them. -
I'll let a girl take advantage of me, but they sure as hell aren't getting any money out of me. I can go get a hooker anywhere else. -
I don't think it is wrong. Having things done by others because they were trying to impress you is not at all wrong. I think those guys should enter at their own risk. They are already old enough and they certainly know the consequences of their actions. -
I've always wondered who is more of a slave, the exploited or the exploiter...-
these gloats are just meant to justify to someone "inside"
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how's that again?
what I meant, is that the exploiter becomes dependent on those that they exploit. they are nothing without them. How can it be said that they even own themselves?
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