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There is NO MONEY in the CURE - Conspiracy or Scary Truth?
Posted by wagerwitch • 18 days ago • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: big companies, conspiracy or fact?, disease, money, pharmaceutical
OK...
If you understand the fact that there is NO MONEY in the Cure of diseases...
And only money in the treatment of disease...
(for example... all these vaccines - who rakes in the bucks on the vials of meds?)
NOW... we have H1n1 Virus running rampant...
Getcher Flu Shots...
Who Makes the money on it?
People get sick - who makes the money on keeping the status quo or better?
People have to go to the hospital - who makes the money in keeping the status quo on letting them get sick and stay sick for longer periods of time?
OK - now broaden your mind a bit...
Let's just say you wanted to control the population or make some extra money - so you send out a little bug... and make a scare - that ONLY YOUR COMPANY can treat...
(Think Monsanto here....)
Who makes the money on the TREATMENT?
And why are things such as medicines regulated by the government?
And what does regulation REALLY MEAN?
Does regulation mean: You can't get it - regardless if you need it - UNLESS SOMEONE who is in this business says you can?
Does regulation mean: You can't have medication unless you've bought it at a pharmacy and have been approved by someone in the industry?
Does regulation mean: the prices are set by whom?
Now let's just say that the people who are in control of our health system... WHO ARE THEY???? I ask you.
Let's just say --- for conspiracy's sake...
Imagine...
Imagine they are controlling the sicknesses in this world...
Having the actual cures locked away - but not allowed to let them out.
Why not allow them out? Well... Simple really.
1 x Cure = ONE PAYMENT
100 x Treatment = 100 payments and maybe there will be some more health problems from the side effects of the treatment so there might even be MORE money.
Now..
We have flu epidemics.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
WHO released the flu?
And why don't they just once and for all make a vaccine that doesn't allow virus cells to enter human bloodstreams and be accepted?
I mean - if they can vaccinate against ONE type of virus - they've got the general concept down to vaccinate against ALL virus cells. Yanno?
So - all these flu scares - and flu shots everyone keeps getting...
Are they really necessary FOR EVERY HUMAN BEING?
And is this a scare or a REAL disease?
And WHO is making all the money from all these TREATMENTS...
and WHERE ARE THE CURES?
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The flu, has been around for a long time. It changes, mutates, evolves ALL the time. You can cure one strand, but by the time the cure is out, it has already mutated.
Not all viruses are the same. Just because they know how to prevent one does not mean it is the same for any others.
And you are not forced to get a flu shot.-
Ahhh but dbowles...
You know what a virus cell is right?
Let's imagine that the basic principle of a virus cell is that it is shaped like (*)
OK? ( and for you - no... that's not a boobie - sorry.)
And human cells are shaped like uhmmmm... this (@) OK?
So since they know that all they have to do is mutate one part of a (*) to make it fit into a (@)... Following here? If they can mutate ONE (*)
They can mutate ALL (*)
And if they can mutate ALL (*) then they can easily mutate a group of them at once to insert into the (@) of each person which would create a cure... And/or make a block on the (@) to not allow ANY (*) in there.
That was massively simplifying the concept... BUT... If you can understand that - then you can understand this:
Hepatitis C is a VIRUS
Flu bug is a VIRUS
Right?
You catch HCV - you take peg. Interferon Alpha 2A and Ribavirin which works on your immune system by supposedly making it work harder to kill the virus...
Or they can give you Tamiflu which works by defeating the virus itself like a heavy antibiotic.
But BEFORE you catch the flu - they can give you a dead virus of the flu and you won't catch it. Not so on HCV...
Right?
Why can't they just make a shot that wards off ALL virus shaped cells and give it to every human being at birth.
OR... DB...
WHAT IF THEY ARE CREATING THE VIRUSES THEMSELVES...
Funny - but you NEVER hear of any pharmaceutical company big wigs dying of a virus or any disease that they happen to have the treatment for.
Ever think about that? -
Wow. Some people pay thousands of dollars and several years to get educated on what you can explain in one forum post. You win!
"Funny - but you NEVER hear of any pharmaceutical company big wigs dying of a virus or any disease that they happen to have the treatment for."
Actually, have you ever heard of a pharmaceutical company big wig dying of *anything*? ZOMG! -
Shush you...
I was just trying to super simplify the concept.
Keep in mind I am no miracle doctor nor am I a scientist or anything...
But - I HAVE been in test situations and taken meds for HCV - and learned a LOT of stuff about viruses, etc. (but I'm no genius... OK?) -
"But - I HAVE been in test situations and taken meds for HCV - and learned a LOT of stuff about viruses, etc. (but I'm no genius... OK?)"
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? -
Yes - and was it a LOVELY stay --- lots of needles and viral loads and uhm.... yeah - diseases..
*GRIN*
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Until someone tells me I HAVE to get a shot, I don't care what they are selling or distributing.-
Right on...
Exactly so and how it should be.
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Yeah its all a huge scam really... all big pharma companies.. they don't care about people IMO, just the money in their pockets. By controlling the cures and treatments for disease they can directly control the income they are making... to some extent.
Even the doctors seem to string you along these days to come back for follow up's or try out different prescriptions. It's hard to find genuine PCP's these days. I swear I find better cures and treatments on the internet than my doctor gives me.
It's the same BS with energy efficiency. Small company A created innovative new technology to create clean energy cheaply. Large oil company B buys out Small company A and we never hear of it again.
I refused to get the flu shot as well.. and I ended up getting the flu hahaha.. it only lasted a few days and im fine. Suppose it could be worse though, have you heard whats going down in Ukraine?-
On a side note, there are also lots of great doctors, nurses, organizations, etc that really do care about us. I have so much respect for these people and I wish they were the ones in "control".. we'd all be healthy and wealthy
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Authorities in Kiev, Ukraine, deny spraying of “aerosolized medication” by aircraft over city.
The office of Emergency Response in the district of Desniansko, Kiev, are tonight (30th Oct.) strongly refuting reports that light aircraft were spraying a substance over the city intended to counter a “swine flu pandemic” in Ukraine.
It was reported that light aircraft were seen over the Forest market area of the city (close to the Forest metro station) and they were spraying an aerosol substance intended to “counter swine flu”, this of course would constitute forced medication of the population.
The editors of local newspapers in Kiev received dozens of phone calls from concerned residents and shop owners in the Forest market area of the city reporting they had observed several light airplanes circling in the sky during the day spraying an unidentified aerosol into the atmosphere.
Retailers and local business people reported they were advised to “stay indoors” during the day by local authorities....
... Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts.
seen here:
info-wars.org/index.php?s=ukraine
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I think pre-Monsanto...if there were tighter regulations on the ability to pattend seeds then a lot of this food poisoning would never have happned. Along with the anialation of local farmers.
On the hand of disease, you can't pattend a disease, but you CAN pattend it's treatment. Because of that, we see "medicines" that no MATTER WHAT the cost or risk involved are pushed through for funding and FDA approval because it means BIG bucks for investors. I used to work in biotech, and in cancer treatment research primarily in shrinking tumors. I think you'll be surprised how FINANCIAL the "cancer game" is.-
right. And most cancers are human-caused
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Not sure polybore can agree with you on this one wagerwitch. Having said that polybore did feel at one time exactly the same, not about pharma companies, but about antivirus software providers.
One should never underestimate the virus, for one thing they are far older than the human species for another a virus is neither alive nor dead.
When medical science has had the opportunity to eradicate disease it has. For example smallpox which was eradicated by the use of mass vaccinations and you don't hear anyone saying that was a bad idea.
The Flu virus is unfortunately impossible to eradicate partly because, unlike smallpox which infected only humans, the flu virus also infects animals and can jump from animals to humans. When it jumps species it is invariably very different to previous versions of the virus which is why the flu vaccination keeps changing and is not "for life". -
I'm just going to say that if it were that simple, if we really had cures for all the diseases hidden some where or if we could make awesome vaccines just because we made one successful vaccine (think small-pox), then, I wouldn't have a job.-
Exactly Deray - people wouldn't have jobs...
Or money... LOL!
Nothing personal - please do keep your job... But that's the principal.
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Viruses really are a different kettle of fish than other diseases so I do not consider them in the same boat, nor do most medical people I've talked with. There is much speculation within the medical community that the "cure" for such as Juvenile( type 1) diabetes" would wipe out billions of dollars of profit, same with the various cancers or other autoimmune disorders out there.-
Precisely.
Example:
Because of medication I took to eradicate HCV from my body to get SVR (sustained viral response - dead virus) I have now obtained autoimmune disorders - that continue to slowly multiply...
Because I took a cure - I now have other diseases which are currently treatable but not curable.
Since HCV is a virus - and I know for a fact that my risk factors were NOT indicative of HCV profile (I didn't do drugs, was monogamous, had no surgeries, but gave birth to a positive blood type child and I am negative blood type - so they gave me a shot of rhogam (gamma-globulin) - which is the only entry point we could find.)
So - what say you - that HCV is "accidentally" spread?
Let it be known that the treatment chemotherapy for HCV runs around 1700.00 for one shot set per month and about 800.00 for the pills per month - without insurance.
And people who get HCV take the chemotherapy for 6 months up to 24 months (2 whole years!!!!)
It is a HORRID chemotherapy and can affect people permanently - but they don't tell you that.
(OK - to be honest - not everyone gets autoimmune disorders from it - but there are a small percentage of people who do - and once you get it - there is NO turning back.)
But know this part: (I am generalizing - but if you do the research you will see that the percentages are fairly close)
About 80% of the people taking the current chemo for HCV do fine, feel miserable and have basic complaints about side effects from the meds. About 5 - 10% become disabled partially and cannot function with the meds and must quit them. About 3% get autoimmune disorders because the medication affects the immune system directly. and the remainder fall in-between...
So with that knowledge - the pharmacies are saying: It is better to destroy about 20% of the people who may take this chemical chemotherapy and become more ill by it... and to possibly cure 80% of the others.
Now - note this: Certain Genotypes of HCV are extremely difficult and some people must go through the 24 months of treatment several times... (those people are HEROIC).
So this Chemotherapy is NOT guaranteed. And many must take it a second or third time.
There are many current tests/trials going on - adding other chemicals into the mix...
But why not just eradicate the virus capability of entering the human blood cell in the first place?
Why force the treatments down?
And yes - the basic definition of a virus is that it CAN Mutate - but it still maintains certain aspects which make it a virus.
If we could stop a virus from replicating or attaching/entering - then we would have cures.
But - what good would a cure do to the pharmaceutical company?
See...
Our problem is that WE PAY MONEY TO REMAIN ILL...
Our Health Profession should get paid ONLY if we remain WELL.
For example: A doctor should get money if :CHILD A: stays well for every year.
But if child gets sick - doctor should PAY to make child well again.
I'd bet you a MILLION BAZILLION dollars that if our system worked like that - our HEALTH would come first and everyone would be treated much better.
Just my thoughts and observations tho.
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I don't know if this applies to the Flu, but it is true of chronic diseases
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It's up to each individual to curb disease - and it can be done. The information is out there. As consumers, we ask for "quick fixes". It is demand that spawns pharmaceuticals. We know how to reverse heart disease, curb cancer, prevent diabetes, boost immunity naturally, keep our food supplies healthier, but no one demands it, nor do we engage in optimal health practices - so we "breed disease" instead. Most viruses are self limiting. When they overtake a weakened immune system, it spells trouble. To me it seems we need to find some balance. Answers always appear to lie somewhere in the middle.
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