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Do you know what the worst thing you eating is that is making you fat or leading to the development of heart disease, diabetes and other health problems? Find out what it is and get it out of your diet immediately.
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  1. dbowles1017
    I believe it's being lazy and not exercising.
    1. tcinvestor
      True..that too.
    2. dbowles1017
      No, that's exactly what it is. You can eat healthy and still get fat.
    3. crazedmama
      What about the skinny people that can eat tons of junk food, not exercise and still stay skinny??? Everyone's body works differently...
    4. dbowles1017
      They have higher metabolisms, which means they burn more calories. And they usually have a lower BF %, which means more LBM (lean body mass). And muscles burn calories.

      And yes everyone is different, but it still doesnt change fact that calories in versus calories expended is where weight gain/lose takes place.

      If you expend 1200 calories/day, but eat 3000/day you will gain weight. If you expend 2000 c/d, and eat 1500 c/d you will lose weight. It takes time to find out how much you expend, but tracking how much you eat is (relatively) easy.
    5. rickyjr
      so true it isn't even funny. I recently just saw a few of my teammates in highschool from basketball and swimming... and they let them self go. 3 years ago they are fit as hell now they are just plain fat.

      Exercising is so key.
  2. Epicharis
    Is it whale blubber?
    1. tcinvestor
      Nice..actually not..that may be good for you..I'll have to check into that.
    2. Agit8r
      whale blubber makes you fat!?

      damn those lying infomercials!!!
  3. Stillthinking
    I know! It's high fructose corn syrup! The solution is to get rid of corn subsidies!
    1. crpitt
      That reminded me of the horrendous adverts I watched whilst being on your side of the pond! truly horrid.
    2. tcinvestor
      Oh yea..
    3. Stillthinking
      Getting rid of corn subsidies will also force people to reexamine animal feed. Corn products are not good for humans and they're not good for animals either.

      It's especially detrimental in animal feed as corn, pigs, chickens, and domestic pets are not biologically programmed to eat corn.
  4. dbowles1017
    I just read your article. High fructose corn syrup isn't the problem. Take offense, your an idiot. The reason is that people (yes you) don't know what moderation is. If you overeat anything you will get fat. It doesn't matter what it is. Over eating HFCS can cause you to be fat, but so can overeating chicken, fish or bread. You shouldn't be telling your readers that they are fat because the evil corporations are putting HFCS in food. You should tell them to eat in moderation, ie not 4 double cheeseburgers.
    1. Stillthinking
      Actually, HFCS is a huge part of the problem relating to obesity in impoverished communities, particularly in regards to children. This is why obesity in children is so much higher in the US than it is elsewhere in the world and it has increased exponentially since the 1980's when manufacturers began replacing sugar with HFCS pretty much across the board.

      Yes, moderation is important. Exercise is important. However, studies have shown that obesity is higher in impoverished communities because of the higher consumption of processed foods and lack of accessibility to fresh, healthy natural foods.

      Why is it that highly processed food is more affordable than fresh, healthy food? How is it that canned peaches with high fructose corn syrup are cheaper than fresh peaches?

      Don't write it off so quickly.

      Oh and by the way, even at the height of my bulimia and compulsive overeating, I never ate 4 double cheeseburgers. Being mean isn't the solution either.
    2. dbowles1017
      I'll give you its a problem in that it is in everything. Yes, that's where the problem lies. HFCS is not in its self, the problem, it's the over consumption of HFCS, which causes the problems, which is due to companies using it.

      ~Why is it that highly processed food is more affordable than fresh, healthy food? How is it that canned green beans have high fructose corn syrup and are cheaper than fresh green beans?~

      Because it has more shelf life, thus cheaper for companies. Again, it's because the HFCS gives it more shelf life. Fresh veggies go bad relatively quick. Canned foods last (not literally) forever.

      The world is a business, it's just not cost effective to make things healthy for the masses.
    3. tcinvestor
      So I'm the idiot? Ok knucklehead..guess your the expert..Suppose you know all about the hypothalamus & energy regulation by the body. Guess you missed the point about the hormone leptin or about Aceyl CoA..Ok Dr.Know very little.

      Still Thinking: very important point however, it also applies to the population at large and the fact the obesity is at 65.2% of the US population and has risen exponentially with the progressive increase in utilization of HFCS in our food supply for the past 15* years.
    4. dbowles1017
      You're right. Why should we take responsibility for our own over eating when we can just blame HFCS.


      ~One of HFCS’s problems is that it doesn’t trigger the hormone Leptin by lacking to initiate the insulin response to blood sugar regulation. Leptin triggers the brain to send signals to tell you when to stop eating. So guess what? You’re probably going to consume more than you should. ~

      Oh look at that, lets blame it for why we over eat.
      "Man, I don't feel full, but I just ate 3 cheeseburgers. I guess I should keep eating."


      Then you go and say

      ~
      Eat less processed food and more real raw fresh foods. Simple ideas but takes your action to make it effective to prevent weight and health problems for you and or your children.
      ~
      Which is great, and is what the entire article should be about. But the reason people are fat is because they eat too much, not HFCS. You can eat no HFCS, and still be fat. If you eat more than you burn, you gain weight.
    5. Agit8r
      I think that DBowles demonic lamp is making us all fat.

      I'm suing it!
  5. NatetheGrate
    I was a thin person when I was in my 20s but I got fat by eating too much and exercising too little. Any other questions?
  6. SweetViolet
    There is just one way that the average person gets fat: their caloric intake is greater than their caloric output and the excess calories are stored in the body for use when the opposite condition occurs. Those excess calories are stored as fat.

    It doesn't matter where those calories come from...HFCS or eating a bushel of peaches or ODing on turkey slices...as long as your caloric intake (how many calories you eat) is more that your caloric output (how many calories you burn), you will get fat. Your fat cells cannot identify the source of those excess calories, they just store them up.

    You will only burn those stored calories when your caloric output is greater than your intake. No magic pills, no special drinks, no evil foods, no fat-burners...just simple arithmetic: eat more calories than you burn and you will get fat. Period.
  7. Anok
    There is more to food consumption and metobolisms than simple "more calories/less burn = you are fat".

    There are, in fact, different types of calories, and different ways that your body processes food so that equation is just too simple.

    Proteins are metobolised differently than carbs, sugars (fructose, lactose, sucrose are all different as well), fats (transfats, saturated fats etc are all different) etc and so forth.

    It is EASIER for your body to process certain types of foods than others. You have to eat more vegetables than one person can reasonably consume in a day to gain weight the same way it would take if someone was eating a loaf of bread daily. Same goes for proteins VS fats, and natural sugars VS HFCS and sucrose (table sugar).

    Foods laden with fake sugars and a lot of carbs pack on the weight much faster and easier - sometimes even in spite of caloric burning than healthy foods such as veggies, fruits, and proteins.

    I dare someone to try and eat the same caloric value of, say, a two liter of soda and a bag of chips in vegetables in one sitting. You'd get sick to your stomach before you could do it.

    I really wish people would stop reducing weight problems and healthy diets to simplistic calculations such as calories in - calories out = weight loss/gain and height/weight = BMI'S/health.

    Neither are that simplistic, or even actually accurate.
    1. tcinvestor
      Cudos to that.
    2. SweetViolet
      Anok, none of what you said changes the basic equation: the calories you do not burn are stored as fat.

      Some things convert to glucose more readily than others, but once it is turned into glucose, your body has no idea what the source of the glucose was. Glucose you do not use up is stored. And it is stored in the body as fat.

      Eat more than you use and the excess is stored. As fat.

      That's it.
    3. tcinvestor
      That is a valid point Sweet Violet.
    4. Anok
      Yes, SV SOME things convert to glucose easily - somethings don't convert to glucose (or in the same quantities) as other foods.

      You can eat ten times as many veggies as carbs and NOT get fat.

      Your body has different uses for different foods, and thus processes them differently. Your body needs more protein than fat, more veggies than carbs - it uses the food sources more readily even without trying to "burn it off". (regular everyday activities are usually sufficient). SO even if you eat the same caloric number of say - chicken or carbs - your body will use each differently, store each differently, and thus affect your overall diet/weight differently. Even if you're consuming the same amount of calories.

      Also, since everyone's bodies are different (and have different needs) their bodies process things differently and/or the calories VS exercise equation doesn't work. For example, my body is hypoglycemic, meaning I need more glucose than the average bear. My body processes it differently and so long as I get the right amount daily (not too much, not too little) then my body (thyroid) will function properly, thus metabolise/break down and use the sugars rather than store it - regardless of my work out schedule.

      If you don't consume enough idodine, iron, potassium etc you affect how your pituitary and thyroid function, thus throwing the whole equation out of whack.

      Further that, but if you don't consume enough calories your body starts to store fat as well (at least up to the point before your body starts to metabolise muscle). So no, the equation doesn't work. People recovering from anorexia nervosa and bulimia know that very well indeed.

      Diets and healthy lifestyles vary from person to person. People should stop relying on what others think, and start talking to their doctors about how their specific body works, what it needs, what it does and doesn't break down and in what quantities.

      And everyone should go back to their 5th grade science textbook and re-try the experiments in them, namely the ones where you try and process different foods with acids similar to that which your body uses. It's enlightening.

      In anycase - fake sugars cause major damage to people's health and serves to increase weight as well as other health problems, even if they exercise their asses off.

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