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UK Labour party, wastes 21 BILLION then finds daycare is bad, is this a surprise?
Posted by genslub3 • 1/07/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: day care socialist labour children kids
Professor Jay Belsky warned that toddlers who spend long hours in nurseries or with childminders suffer “disconcerting” effects.
These include difficult relationships with their mothers and aggressive and disobedient behaviour when they start school.
Those who spend time in centre-based care from a very young age are particularly at risk, he said.
tax policies should reduce - rather than increase - the pressure on parents to leave their youngsters in the care of others.
The findings will come as a deep embarrassment to Labour, which has pumped £21billion into subsidising childcare and toddler education over the past decade.
It has been heavily criticised for pressing mothers back into the workforce by giving out large sums through the tax credit system for them to spend on nurseries.
Ministers have insisted that the only way for two-parent families to ensure they stay out of poverty is for both parents to work.
Around £10billion of the spending has gone into Mr Brown’s favoured Sure Start scheme, where family centres, increasingly concentrate on providing childcare.
Professor Belsky and his team on the £20million evaluation project have published no major reports in two years - not since they showed that Sure Start was doing more harm than good for the worstoff children.
He said they “start school being somewhat more aggressive and disobedient than children with less non-maternal care experience”.
These “disconcerting” effects can not be blamed on poor-quality childcare - and “seem more likely and longlasting when children experience centre based care early in life”.
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Most studies I've read say the younger they are in the worse it is.
At my children's school they have 2 nursery classes.
One almost all daycare children
the other all moms at home.
Guess which one can sit still while the teacher reads a story are quieter and well to be polite she doesn't complain about.
They used to combine them but why should my children have to be in a class with a bunch of hyper maniacs.
So my personal experience ties in with studies like this:
Several measures we looked at suggest that children were worse off in the years following the introduction of the universal childcare program. We studied a wide range of measures of child well-being, from anxiety and hyperactivity to social and motor skills. For almost every measure, we find that the increased use of childcare was associated with a decrease in their well-being relative to other children. For example, reported fighting and other measures of aggressive behaviour increased substantially. Our results are consistent with evidence from the National Institute of Child Health and Development Early Childcare Research Network (2003), showing that the amount of time through the first 4.5 years of life that a child spends away from his or her mother is a predictor of assertiveness, disobedience, and aggression.
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I find this all crap, its good for children to associate with others and to start learning at an early age. Our kids have all been in school from 2 and a half, half day until they hit reception at 4 and go full time.
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I wonder if this 'crap' is one of the reasons why the UK has a problem with feral children and teenagers. Two Polish migrants were stabbed to death by kids in Ireland this week because they wouldn't buy them alchohol. One of them died when the youngster drove a screwdriver into his skull.
Maybe there is a grain of truth in this study considering the national state of play where our youth is concerned.
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I find this all crap, its good for children to associate with others and to start learning at an early age. Our kids have all been in school from 2 and a half, half day until they hit reception at 4 and go full time.
Well I've known children to go to daycare then nursery then kindergarden and then in grade one still not know the alphabet with all that early learning. At least you started later and had them in fewer hours both of which are factors.
I was at a park with a mom once who had just taken her child out of daycare and was surprised the child liked being with them and didn't once mention missing the children in daycare. Why would they children need the stability of real parents.
I considered using one but I recognize them as a last resort, seems even lefty brits have woken up to that.
One of the things they found out in Canada is that even after pushing women out of the house, because polls do say they would prefer to stay at home, and getting them in the workforce that the extra revenue only covers 40% of the cost. Ie by running some big government day care program you are losing 60%. So when people say you will get extra tax revenue in Canada it made 40% of the cost and lost 60%. Better to just give parents 60% to stay at home I think or at least don't increase their taxes to give to children in a failed system. You can avoid all the social problems Labour in the UK is discovering.
I wonder if this 'crap' is one of the reasons why the UK has a problem with feral children and teenagers.
Indeed, I have a relative there and was going over there correspondence to my mom after she died and there is a total fear of safety on many levels.
They need burglar alarms,
It takes a lot for any political party to admit they are wrong, the fact they have is very telling.
I also figure its one of the reasons why the countries in the world with the highest suicide rates are all ex commie countries. Would you rather spend your life surrounded by government workers or your mom and dad.
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As Ray Davies of the kinks said "Where oh where oh where oh where is love." Children need love, not a union bum like me to trust their formative years to.
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