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Posted by marcusmarcus • 18 days ago • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: peace, war
Actually war is necessary for peace to be there! Mostly, war is used by good people to prevent bad people from destroying peace in the world. Look at world wars, gulf war, war on terror e.t.c
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I dislike broad generalizations.
Most of what is historically described as war (killing, raping, pillaging, etc) occurs in the "developing world" and is waged by bad people with evil self-serving motives.
When such happens at the hands of the "developed world" as well (around 2003 for instance) this is what breeds international scandal-
You are right... broad generalizations can be problematic. Please explain the evidence linking your two parenthetical statements.
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This is the strangest justification to war and violence I have ever seen!! -
What complete rubbish. War is not 'necessary'. If 'good people' go to war, then in my opinion that's a failure on the part of those good people to find a better solution.
Forgetting the reality that everyone thinks of themselves as a good person, if good people are trying to prevent bad people from destroying the peace, then how does destroying the peace themselves accomplish this?
War is the ultimate in human stupidity, controlled by a few and waged by many, most of whom are simply accepting the word of the few that it's necessary.
To believe in that necessity simply adds to the problem. -
War, they say, is big business. It pushes up the prices of some metals. It spells more profit for the manufacturers of armaments, and in the past, it was used as a means to economic ends, such as the conquest of markets or sources of raw materials. But it is the twisted mind of those motivated by greed that pursues a policy of war for profit.
We would like to believe that peace also means big business for the many because it creates the stability for long term investments. The minimal condition for regional peace and stability is mutual trust between the two superpowers. And the atmosphere for mutual trust is created when there are no threats hiding behind the deceptive words of security and deterrence, threats that are in the form of nuclear arms stored in overseas bases, and the overseas bases themselves.
"... How many of these millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?..."
Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC Retired
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Look at the world wars. They weren't started by good people trying to stop bad things. They were started by bad people doing bad things and then the good people got involved.
Look at gulf war II. It was waged for a combination of corporate greed, greed for oil and greed for an American president to get re-elected.-
Where is the oil? Where are the Kurds? www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/1993/iraqanfal/
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Well let's see...
Hmmm...
Who needs money today?
Ahhhh yes... The Rockefellers.... Or whomever owns the big companies ---- hmmmm.... Well now...
Who owns the companies that make the war planes, tanks, artillery?
Who wants control of all the oil in the world? (either through direct ownership or through a manipulated country...
(I mean - shouldn't we be making alternative heat/electricity/utilities and car fuel options?)
Well then - let's make some money boys ---- LET US CREATE A NEED FOR WAR!-
I mean - can we say Halliburton?
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I'm having trouble following your circular argument. Are you actually saying that if there were no war we couldn't have peace?
I don't believe we'll get rid of war in my lifetime and it probably won't be eliminated for a great many generations to come, if ever (unless, of course, everyone gets blown up real good), but as long as we do have war we, by definition, don't have peace.-
Everyone getting blown up real good is kind of an oxymoron...
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Actually, "he blowed up real good" was a running gag from an old TV show, although I forget which one, possibly SCTV (Second City TV). It's possible that you have to be Canadian to have seen whichever show it was. I'm not sure.
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I can't understand why we (here in the U.S.) want to mimic the Canadian Health Care System, yet I can't find SCTV or The Frantics ANYWHERE! GIVE ME COMEDY!
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"[E]ach generation should be made to bear the burden of its own wars, instead of carrying them on, at the expence of other generations... that each generation should not only bear its own burdens, but that the taxes composing them, should include a due proportion of such as by their direct operation keep the people awake, along with those, which being wrapped up in other payments, may leave them asleep, to misapplications of their money." -- James Madison, ('Universal Peace' from The National Gazette, February 2, 1792.)
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The relentless wrath of war revolves a rage remarkably witless. Each side tied to stride inside an eye for an eye however unjustified. Lies disguise this senseless mess, an infinite regress, obsessed to penalize. Victims vandalize and violate virtues guide when they too, victimize. The prize? Everyone dies.-
"forward he cried, from the rear
and the front rank
died
the generals sat and the lines on the map
moved from side to
side"
- PF
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