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  1. TonyB
    I'll take rock and heavy metal over hip hop
    1. gmoney
      that is because you can't dance
  2. Fashionisto
    grew up in queens ny, was listening to hip hop when it was rap. the word hip hop and rap always conjure great memories of childhood, i feel proud to have been a part of the greatest music movement in the last quarter of a century, it still amazes me how its grown

    i was in a rap group in school(3rd grade to fifth)
    "Sweet & Rap-able"...lol... that was in 1984--damn over 20 years ago
    1. gosmelltheflowers
      Awesome Fash...

      This ones for you - we used to break to this in 84 in Chester, England:

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhkOPNRV8Pk
  3. alexmcone
    I like a couple of hip-hop songs, but thats about it.
  4. clioandme
    I like all kinds of music. When it comes to hip hop, I prefer the political stuff, the lyrics that talk about real issues.
    1. Fashionisto
      why doesnt anyone ever say that about rock music?

      yes the majority of hip hop (huge majority) doesnt have anything profound to say, i just never heard anyone say
      "i like rock n roll songs, but only the ones that have a positive message"

      --- cop out. you might not like the beat or anything whatsoever about rap, thats cool, but your opinion is a cop-out when you say that....sorry


      PS i like 10%, (maybe less) of the hip-hop thats out right now, that still makes me a fan

      PSS i also love other music, more so now then when i was growing up

      if i wanted a postive message id listen to an Obama speech. hip hop has done more to unify people of different races than any music genre that has ever existed (dont tell me bob marley)
    2. clioandme
      I don't get why my preferences are "a cop out", or why they're worth getting worked up about. Also, I said "real issues" not "positive messages." Stuff I sometimes listen to once in a while: 4th25, Talib Kweli, Jean Grae, Immortal Technique and the more mainstream Flypsyde. I'm also a sucker for good German rap, though all I have is Fettes Brot.

      I didn't mention any other genres, because that wasn't the question.
    3. gmoney
      damn stoneman has a bit of flava!
    4. gosmelltheflowers
      Like Public Enemies, fight the power!
  5. LisaT
    I like some of it. Not all. I like Outkast, Kanye West, some 50cent
  6. Dukepro25
    Rap - Most of it is junk. (Womanizers)

    There's some good Hip Hop.

    But there are a few artists I like.

    R&B is a completely different story though.
  7. can3lita
    I love it!
  8. morgantj
    I used to love it, but now I am getting over it. I still love the instrumental sounds of hiphop, but the lyrics seem to have become old and redundant to me.
  9. Norski
    Sound: great! I like complex rhythms and playing with language.

    Intellectual content: not so great, in some cases.

    It reminds me of the psychedelic music and art of the sixties. At the time, I was fascinated by, and enjoyed, the art of it all. On the other hand, I had no use for the 'come on in, the LSD is fine!' message. I use my brain, and didn't (don't, for that matter) want to mess with the operating system.

    That doesn't mean I can't appreciate the art and music, though.

    Hey, I like jazz: and wouldn't say 'okay' to "jazz me."
    1. clioandme
      Jazz rocks!
  10. tamalds
    YO MA, I'M DOIN THIS RAP!!! ITS BEEN CRAZZZY BY WID ME!
    HIP HOP I'M A HIP HOP MAN! GOT DAT SHI* GO IT AGAIN!!
    FUC* THAT MAN, DO IT AGAIN!

    -Like my text rap?
    1. morgantj
      not really.
  11. kdawg68
    I was way into hip hop (it was "rap" to us) back in the late 80's/ early 90's.

    Honestly I think it's gone the way of the hair bands anymore. Remember how "rock" went from edgy to crap like Warrant and Winger in the 80's? I think ti's happening again.

    Wu Tang
    Notorioius BIG
    Outkast
    Tribe Called Quest
    Too Short
    NWA
    PE
    KRSone

    man those were my favorites. But anymore I turn on BET or MTV and it's just some blinged out clown going "uh-huh" or "yeah" over and over again. It's getting really annoying. Personally when Puff Daddy started releasing his own songs, I jumped the shark.

    I've also got a little one now, so daddy can't be listening to songs filled with "mutha F" bombs and stuff about B's and H's.
  12. Mewie
    Although I'm a break dancer, I don't like to listen to hip hop. Excellent rhythm and beats, but my goodness... the mainstream lyrics tend to tick me off.

    I'll listen to house, techno, trance or anything else rather than hip hop in my car.

    There are some exceptions - some actually have wonderful uplifting messages, but they're truly in the minority.
  13. OneEyedView
    Big fan of positive rap and hip-hop. KRS-One, More or Les, etc....and these kids of course...
    au.youtube.com/watch?v=ovYuOGMPfkw
  14. riverstyxxx
    Hip hop and rap are not technically music. They lack all essential elements besides rhythm (This is only because of the repeated soundtrack beats done by keyboards.)
    The lyrics are frequently violent and degrading towards everything and anything, and it's not done in a clever way either. It's just blatant shock-to-sell, nothing more.

    Kinda hard to argue that "Big pimping", "Gang banging", "Nigga", and "Money Cash Hoes" has any redeeming social value to it.

    In fact, Several years ago Foxy Brown and Mase both admitted that they used negative images just to sell records, they even cite that they were coerced into doing so by their label. It's all a money thing.
    If you dont know who foxy brown and mase are, that's because the whole genre is a one-hit-wonder type of business. They were fairly popular back in the day.
  15. Shiley
    not really into it my fiance is it grates on my nerves like finger nails on a chalk board. I don't want to hear about anyone being called the things that I hear in that stuff. I don't like the innuendo and I don't think it has any redeeming qualities. I do like the clean stuff i.e. Will Smith that's about it.
    1. riverstyxxx
      I would never marry someone who listens to that..Not a chance, people like that are a dime a dozen and typically don't give a crap about anyone but themselves.
      It's going to get worse as the years go by, that whole pseudo-genre of miscreants and delinquents are finding more and more ways to sell their trash.
    2. Shiley
      My fiance loves people. One time we were going to the movies and a homeless man covered in newspaper was sleeping on a park bench. He walked over to the man and handed him $5.00. There was no telling if the man would have been there if we bought food and came back out so he just gave him the money. He helped me to fund raise for clothes for a pregnant lady who had nothing. Music doesn't make the man your heart does.
    3. riverstyxxx
      As someone who's also been homeless, I feel it's safe to say that all he did was contributed to making sure he doesn't have a reason to get off the streets.
      It was really bad for me at one time, getting off the streets is a lot harder then getting on them. Anyone who wants it bad enough can do it though, I don't feel one shred of sympathy for drug addicts and drunks who only think about themselves.

      Most of them are on disability, which gives them roughly $1,000 dollars a month to smoke/drink/snort/shoot away. Giving them an extra 5 is just more expendable income for them. If they really wanted to, they could use that grand to get into a shelter, get cleaned up and get on with life.

      I was diagnosed as having a severe mental disorder, I know that could be used as my cop-out to saying "Well I don't have to" and end up living in a dumpster until I died. I could've stayed in that situation for as long as I wanted to. But the more I hanged around with those people, I just knew I was capable of better. They all make the same excuses too, everything from "Someone else made me this way" to "I can't do anything" to "It's too hard", and they all want something like they're owed.

      I hate the fact that I have a disability and I fight it every day of my life...No one ever hands me 5 dollars on the streets because they feel sorry for me, and all I do is go to school full-time and sleep for maybe 4 hours a night. The most I get is stared at by morons while I'm waiting for the bus. Want to talk about me getting off my alcohol habits? That was no picnic, but no one hands me money for doing the right thing. I will never understand why laziness earns money and sympathy while hard work from someone at-risk gets nothing. I almost get the feeling that the only reason people like him throw money at those guys is for bragging rights.

      Those people are homeless because they typically want to be, they don't want to achieve any goals or do anything with their lives other then feel sorry for themselves.

      Anyone who lives here is guaranteed a free ride through college if you make under a certain amount. I told some of those bums that fact and nothing makes them avoid the subject more than mentioning something that makes them get off their ass and stop smoking meth.

      Anyway, if he really loved people he would've offered advice and asked that man if that's all he wanted life to be.
    4. Shiley
      My fiance too was once homeless and he has told me that if he could rewind time he would have purchased food instead. My fiance was homeless because his mother was institutionalised and his father booted him out even though he paid his dad's rent. His dad cared more about getting action than his own kid. My fiance spent time in a monastery because of his family drama. He did the whole drug scene but because of me he never went back.
    5. riverstyxxx
      That just strengthens the argument that homeless people don't need money from strangers. And they don't, because the state hands them a check every month to keep doing the same thing.
    6. Shiley
      But it takes someone who truly cares to make a change. Change doesn't happen on its own.
    7. riverstyxxx
      Mmhmm, I always say that if you want to help someone, they have to want to help themselves first. Just like the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem to those that you want help from. That concept doesn't apply to someone loafing around on the streets and begging for change, it's just not theoretically possible, people who want sincere help don't spend their days on the street since it does nothing to reach out to those who's job it is to help those in need. Even your fiancee confirmed this because he admitted that he wasted all the money that was handed to him. I've been there and I know how those people conduct their daily lives by gaining pity from people who don't know any better.

      And changing something like that is so gradual that you almost don't see it happening. It came in bits and pieces for me, all starting from one short term goal and leading to another..Over time they add up to a big picture.
    8. Shiley
      My fiance wasn't handed money. His dad kicked him out even after my fiance paid his dad's rent.
  16. ttiger
    HIP HOP = the filthiest music ever..i am a hip hop hater !
  17. Xight
    Hip hop I like, atleast the ones that don't talk nonstop about women, money, guns, drugs, sex, gangs etc etc. All that stuff gets old fast, and alot of the wannabe rappers just sing about that like they are from the hood or ghettos.

    I like other stuff too. Speaking of which I just got back from the Incubus concert woo. We don't get very many bands that come all the way out to Maui.
  18. soarkaios
    Wow. So much negative comments about rap and hip hop.
    Rap and hip hop aren't the same.
    I love both, out of 900 songs 90% is rap/hip hop in my itunes.
    The rest is anything I find good, a couple simple plan songs, old ones. Beethoven, some reggae and rnb.
    Couple techno songs. Whatever Hedley is and hey there Delilah is pretty awesome, lol.

    Any ways, back on rap/hip hop if you want a good rapper that doesn't rap about guns, killing people and hoes my favorite is Greydon Square. He's an atheist rapper, member of the rational response squad.

    madmanblog.wordpress.com/2008/03/12/greydon-square-the-atheist-rapper/
    www.myspace.com/greydonsquare
  19. saxyphone
    I don't really like hip hop, but I do listen to it occasionally, just to get ideas for songs. Some hip hop songs have very nice catchy melodies.
  20. mitch972
    Love it. Hip hop is more than just rap. Most don't really have a true sense of what it is. What the media portrays it to be is incorrect.
  21. pchaus
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    Hip HOpp 4 ever... And Tamalds Your rap rules lol!!
  22. shawie9877
    Loved hip hop... somehow it depends on my mood, lols! guess, I just love the rhythm not the lyrics:)
    1. riverstyxxx
      Yea, what I find to be disturbing is when these filth-mongers win some kind of an award and somehow thank God for it.
  23. mikeny07
    I called it rap music. When I was in school nobody used the word hip-hop. I don't know if it means the same. I think rap is used less today because hip-hop sounds better. In the 80s everyone used the word rap.
  24. OneEyedView
    Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, but I implore the haters here to keep an open mind and realize that there ARE positive rap artists sending positive messages through their music. The problem is that mainstream radio seldom plays these artists, so most people only hear the rap junk that spreads negativity.

    Just know that positive rap is out there, alive and well.
  25. gmoney
    I like it all. Rap/Hip-Hop/Trip-Hop/Acid Jazz..... I love the beats and in some I love the lyrics.
    I see that some have a negative view towards the music but I feel that is because they don't understand the roots or the nature.
    It is not all good, but I like a lot of it. From 50cent to Common, to LLcoolJ.... Emenim is one of my favorites, Public Enemy, Lupe Fiasco.... anything produced by Timbaland.....

    Oh yeah and those that talk about RAP junk.... dig a little deeper and you might find some good stuff
  26. ttiger
    some nas song are listenable at best, the music and melodies are kinda cool but his lyrics are pretty silly

    i hate very much political and propaganda rap /hip hop such as
    dead prez
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIN18chRis0


    how do people can likle a**hole such as 50cents? dude this guy pointed a gun at me on his cd cover!

    slice of life: some year ago my girlfriend daughter was 10 years and was at school for her dance course then i arrived at the class room then the teacher was using 50 Cents - Candyshop for the dance choreography
    i was so angry and i have scream some insanity to this filthy dance teachers..
    10 years old kids dancing an a song describing a sexual relationship..
    1. gosmelltheflowers
      ttiger - Nas is the man, Wu tang still pretty handy and Bushwick Bill with the NWA mob set out their stall rather well with Dre behind the scenes....

      Also new talent growing...

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=osHT73lWMD0
    2. clioandme
      Yikes! That's a messed up video ttiger. Nothing political there, despite the name. Can't take this as representative of hip hop though.

      Edit: Great video flowers!
    3. soarkaios
      Lol, that was an awesome video, ttiger.
  27. ttiger
    all over wigger are a shame to human race..
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxz3jxdC1k
    1. soarkaios
      I guess you can call me a "wigger" but you're stupid for using that word.
      I dress with my pants below my ass and long t shirts and a nice NY hat :).

      You can't take a couple stupid ones and class all of "us" like complete retards. Plus, most would kick your ass anyways, that's the only reason you don't like them. You feel threatened by them.
  28. whojaybe
    It's bigger than hip-hip! Hip-hop! Hip-hop! lol Dead prez, hell yea!
  29. pchaus
    Thanks for visiting my blogg!!!
  30. kdawg68
    I thought this was rather interesting and pseudo-related to our discussion:

    www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0325081sabatino1.html
  31. Naturalwoman
    its okay...don't like any cursing though. if will smith is hiphop then i like him. or is he rap?
  32. mitch972
    I'm diverse... so I listen to all kinds.

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