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Are there any vegetarians out there? Why do people become vegetarians? Are you for or against vegetarians?

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  1. mdsanta
    more meat for me }:o)
    1. rinkydinky
      Its the circle of life people. If it is wrong for people to eat animals, than it is also wrong for lions to eat antelope, and for ant eaters to eat ants.
    2. brigid
      Very good point.

      I think it's rather mean for carnivores to be universally portrayed as the villains in cartoons.
    3. jflower36
      I don't think it's wrong to be a vegetarian or to eat meat.
  2. sellytapgirl
    I was vegetarian until I was about two. I still like vegetarian food, but it's not my fave.
    1. IanThal
      "I think the creator created animals to provide nutrition for humans."

      By that logic, the creator created humans to provide nutrition for worms, rats, and trees and as a home for virii, bacteria, tapeworms and lice.
  3. awannabe
    I think the creator created animals to provide nutrition for humans. There are probably certain vitamins we need that can't be found in veggies. I don't think being a vegetarian is natural.
    1. acousticguitarist
      that's really funny
    2. footiam
      There are many vegetarians especially in India. People can live without meat and get all the vitamins, just must eat the right veggies!
    3. acousticguitarist
      i've been to india a lot...a ile the big dosas in Madras that are 3 times the size of the plate
    4. IanThal
      Dosas are delicious.
    5. MadameX
      We know that he didn't, though--it's all very clearly spelled out in Genesis. Before the fall, they didn't die.
    6. acousticguitarist
      hi madame x

      i thinke there's two references in genesis ..once herbs and banana smoothies etc and the other is meat...i might be wrong but it's worth double checking that one
    7. brigid
      Before the Fall, nothing died. Human sin brought that. And I think it was sometime soon after Noah when the human lifespan was declared to be limited to 120 years. (Yeah, 120 years is mentioned in the Bible, and that seems now to really be the limit.)
  4. BlogBadly
    Eh, doesn't matter. Animals taste delicious. Non-animals taste delicious. It's all good.
  5. ender
    i don't care if someone is a vegetarian or not. how can you be "for" or "against" vegetarians?

    i, personally, am very allergic to all of the veggie sources of protein that you need to replace meat. so, i could never go veggie. but people who do the nutritional research and take care of themselves ... who cares if they're veggie or not. their choice ... and it's their choice to make ... and it hurts no one.

    what's the issue?
    1. footiam
      I believe there must be people out there who are allergic to meat too!
  6. monkeytale
    Well..they don't do well at barbeques.

    1. acousticguitarist
      it's a vegeQ ..bring on the tofuburgers
  7. MiLan
    'awannabe' if animals are created to be eaten then why not human beings???
  8. acousticguitarist
    I was a vegetarian for 36 years until about 3 months ago
  9. aksn1p3r
    I cant have a girl who cant eat steak with me on a date or whatever....
    1. acousticguitarist
      what if she's lovely?
  10. libdrone
    that they taste better than meat eaters
    1. BlogBadly
      Haha.

      Not going to let a comment like that go uncongratulated.

      Congratulations on the wit.
  11. IanThal
    "For or against vegetarians?"

    What are you going to do? Pass legistlation to force us to eat meat? Organize gangs to smash our restaurants and harass us in public places?
  12. monkeytale
    I think we should extend them the same courtesy we would a meat eater. I'm not sure the Steak Sauce companies would get on board with this though.
  13. Vishnuap
    I haven't 'turned' vegetarian. I have 'been' a vegetarian all my life.

    Aksn1p3r, my girl simply loves fried chicken! And I have no problems ordering meat for her when we are out on a date!
  14. pointlessbanter
    I personally don't care what people do until they try and push their beliefs on me.
    1. footiam
      Me, too!
  15. MadameX
    Um.

    Don't we have enough problems with thinking things about people as a class based on their race or religion or sexual orientation (and so on) without starting to have opinions about whole classes of people based on what they EAT?
    1. IanThal
      Actually, there is a long history of discriminating against people by what they did or did not eat (and what they were believed to eat.) Yes, these differing diets do often coincide with religion or culture, but sometimes they take on symbolic power that is discriminatory, exclusionary or even humiliating-- such as forcing someone to break their religiously held dietary practices.
    2. brigid
      Like the Jews and their kosher diet?

      Wow, I had no idea that the vegetarian vs. meat diet was such a hot topic.
    3. IanThal
      Actually, according to an essay I read some years back, in the medieval period, the Catholic and Orthodox Churches also had more widely practiced regulations on diet as well-- and even between these Christian churches, the regulations were not the same.

      By 1500 in Spain, it was common to eat large amounts of pork and ham in public festivals, just to demonstrate to everyone that one was not a Jew or Muslim in hiding.
  16. ChrissyJo
    What is so bad about vegetarians? Why do you care what other people eat? People who are vegetarian usually do it for very unselfish reasons, so I don't know why you'd be against them. I am a new vegetarian and it is not hard at all to get everything u get in meat, without fat and cholesterol, in other foods. One of my blogs is dedicated to the subject. Many things in the Bible point to eating animals as unethical and that God made seeds for our nutrition. I just don't understand what gives us the right to abuse and kill animals for food, what if a smarter "being" invaded the world and ate us?
    1. brigid
      Where in the Bible?

      As I recall there are several passages where God commanded His people to kill a particular kind of animal and eat it.

      You might be thinking about the kosher restrictions, in which certain animals and body parts are considered unclean. On closer inspection, these mostly turn out to be health concerns. (Pigs, the most well known of the kosher don't eat list, are susceptible to many of the same diseases as humans and even now have to be cooked extra carefully to insure safe eating. Back in Biblical times it was simply safer to avoid pork altogether.)
    2. momoftwingirls
      Before fast food and chain restaurants came along, I highly doubt there was an abuse of animals. Way back then, people actually ate all their kill and they did not keep them caged up like KFC and other chain restaurants of today do, I am sure.
    3. brigid
      Fast food and other places buy food already packaged. They have nothing to do with the raising of the animals. It's who they buy the food from who's responsible for that. As for how they're treated, I can only attest to what I've seen personally and it's hardly abusive. (A tad crowded, but humans live like that just being in a city.)
  17. littleliz
    I think that at least vegetarians are thinking about what they eat. So many of us just grab the easiest quickest food available. That said.... I am not a vegetarian, nor would I care to be one. I just respect their choices and think that they are probably a bit healthier than the average person.
  18. luckyme
    I think vegetarianism is great for those who are properly educated on diet and eating right. I was a vegetarian from my mid to late teens by choice. And there is a learning curve. I just hate to see going people going veg without giving proper thought to replacing their proteins.

    Gotta love Tofu!
  19. dpasquella
    I don't judge what others prefer to eat. I love my meat---especially that it provides the suffient amount of iron that I need, but I would never ever judge a vegan or a vegetarian for opting for another choice.
  20. monkeytale
    Can't we all just get along?... and someone pass the carrots please.
  21. mtchick
    I've always been a vegetarian, but once in a while I do try eating meat. A couple of weeks ago I made a pot roast for my husband. It was very tender and tasty, and I had a little bit of it. Afterwards, I felt queasy, as I always do when I eat meat, and I wished I hadn't eaten it.

    If it's something unidentifiable, maybe covered in BBQ sauce, I can gulp it down as long as I don't think about what I'm eating. If I think about it, I won't eat it.
  22. SportsNarrative
    I don't think of them.
  23. gosmelltheflowers
    Vegies don't love animals - they hate plants :0)
  24. diamondssaphire
    I could really careless. Their choice not mine, why is it any of my buisness?! Why do any of us care? Are they hurting you?
    1. IanThal
      Can some people not talk about vegetarians as if we're not clever enough to use a web browser and have an account on BlogCatalog?
  25. harleyblues
    Going Veggie is great for your body & moral issues if you believe in that thing.
    Have you ever watched animals being slughtered and maimed? NOT a beautiful sight! animals have/feel pain just like we do!

    Do you see what the do to chickens? force feed them with wire around their necks along with ducks & geese. they do this, so the poor fowl donot regurtate the food~ ewwwww! ( I had a pet goose she was too cute)

    If that wasn't bad enuff the hormones and BS that the pump into beef,pork & Veal is absolutley vile! Not to mention dead animals ARE ground up and mixed with feed for living livestock to eat, sounds tatsy doesn't it?

    makes you think of that lovely movie "Solient Green"~(sp) I remember that as a kid, yikes! If humans would cut down in their consumption of beef & other meat products there would be less heart disease,cancer,etc..

    just FOOD for thought!
    ta
    hb~
  26. harleyblues
    ps. I encourgae people to watch a lovely lil vid at a slaughter house it will make yur stomach turn!~ lol
  27. harleyblues
    c'mon no more comments since my last!
  28. mtchick
    I used to watch my dad and brother ring chicken necks, about as appetizing as a slaughter house visit.
    1. clioandme
      My dad could never eat chicken because of some story like that.
    2. busylizzy
      My gr. grandmother used to whack off the head of a chicken for dinner and the headless body would run around in the garden for awhile. My mom, as a little girl, had the responsibility of catching the headless, bloody chicken and bringing it back.
  29. Blackysky
    eat food ..... there is no proteins in green stuff !!!
    1. footiam
      There is protein in non-meat products. Some people think that we need essentials amino acids from meat and meat alone. But taking nuts and all those nuts products would ensure us a supply. In any case, we can always count on supplements!
    2. brigid
      Except some people are allergic to nuts. And the proteins in nuts aren't the same as the proteins in meat. Not saying that a no-meat diet is a bad thing... it just seems like if you don't have to it's easier to eat meat.
    3. busylizzy
      I thought nuts and beans took care of the protein issue. You just have to make sure you have all your protein bases covered...

      Also - aren't there various levels of vegetarianism? Some will eat dairy b/c it doesn't kill the animal?
  30. brigid
    Well, a second cousin once removed is on a vegetarian diet because of heart problems. If it's because of that or other health concerns that's one thing, but other wise it just doesn't make sense. Humans need protein and it's just easier to get that protein from meat.

    I mean, we are omnivores. That means we eat veggies and meat.

    Meat is also a source of fiber, and fish has omega-3 fatty acids.
  31. harleyblues
    proteins come in the form of beans and tofu to name a few
    1. Blackysky
      and about iron ....
    2. IanThal
      There are plenty of vegetables and grains with high iron-content.

      It is true that vegetarians need to be a lot more thoughtful about how to get proper nutrition than omnivores, but that's really easy in most modern societies. Outside of people with very specific dietary needs, an ominvorous diet is a matter of habit-- not of genuine biological need.
  32. Blackysky
    and you will need to eat a lot of tofu to match the same quantity of a meat .....
    1. footiam
      I think people who take meat has to be thoughtful too, Ian Thai. Think of all those cholesterol, for example.
    2. libelletage
      In the united states, people eat much more meat than is required by the body.
  33. ChrissyJo
    Why would a loving God create animals that love, feel pain, and bond with others just so they can be ripped apart from their families, be forced to live in a cage until they are brutally slaughtered, just so we can get iron a little more efficiently?
    1. brigid
      ...

      Have you actually seen a farm?

      Seriously, I live in a rural area and am a little familiar with the practices. None of the animals I've seen live in cages. They live in barns and get to go outside everyday, except in winter because it's too cold.

      The exception being bison, since they're designed for this climate and spend pretty much all their time outside.

      Anyway, why would a loving God make animals that get eaten? I suggest reading Genesis. Beyond that, I have to wonder if you think it's immoral to feed a dog kibble. Would you have them go vegetarian, too?
    2. jan4insight
      Um, ChrissyJo, since you use a cat picture as your avatar I assume you keep cats. For your information, they are the ulitmate carnivores. And have you ever seen a cat feeding itself the natural way? God created both the cat and the mouse, ya know
  34. Webster12
    No way...i'm going to be a vegetarian...i can't live like that! but I respect those who are vegetarians...

    Well...i once saw a goat being killed and that made me think if I want to switch to vegetables...

    Well, I didn't....I even ate the same goat that I saw being killed.
  35. Fromm
    I am for vegetarian.
  36. footiam
    I think I touch a bit on this subject in one of my older post. Do have a look at 'A blink for an answer' at steptpg.blogspot.com/2007/09/blink-for-answer.html
    It's not shameless blog promotion, o.k.
  37. tetsujin
    I hunt, therefore, I like to eat meat. Preferably rare.

    Cameron
  38. homeschoolzoo
    I don't. I don't think about vegetarians. Or anyone else's food preference. It seems insane to me to start a debate over it at all. I do eat meat. I do eat vegetables. Big deal. Who cares? And if they do care, they should get a life.
  39. WokeupToday
    Went to the Birchwood in Minneapolis last night with my daughter - ordered the Black Bean Cheeseburger...Bit into it and discovered it was made of black beans no meat! Took me a long time to eat it. Not very tasty and succulent like a good cheeseburger...Supposed to be better for me though!
  40. footiam
    Some vegetarian dishes are tasty too
  41. footiam
    Some vegetarian dishes are tasty too!
  42. dpivans1
    "To Each His Own"
    If you don't like meat...don't eat it. If you do...then eat it!
    Simple as that.
  43. KittermansKhaos
    I am not a vegetarian because I love animals. I am a vegetarian because I hate vegetables.

    actually, I am not a vegetarian at all anymore. It all started with the seafood.
    1. Blackysky
      seafood come from animals........
    2. brigid
      Seaweed doesn't. Or algae.

      I'm not sure what wakame is, but it tastes pretty good.
    3. KittermansKhaos
      YES! seafood comes from animals! nice work.
      that is why I said I am NOT vegetarian at all anymore.
      silly.
  44. CheapGourmet
    I've been both a meat-eater and vegetarian. I lost about 30 pounds as a VegHead, but felt grumpy without meat. I eat very little meat nowadays, because my kid just wrote a gruesome report on Factory Farming and it makes it a little challenging to swallow meat at the moment. It really is horrible how they treat these animals. If we're eating them, we're eating what they ate and what they eat ain't all that great. So, at the moment I'm on strike against meat. If I get grumpy, I'll just eat more organic chocolate ;-)
    1. brigid
      If you get your meat from the local grocery chances are it didn't come from a factory farm. Just so you know. ^_^

      (I'd like to see animals treated well, so your reaction is totally understandable.)
  45. dotartdude
    A gout attack two years ago changed my point of view on vegetarians. I had pain in the bunion of my left foot. Since I knew that my uncle had recurring troubles with gout and that is was diet related, I went to a nutritionist. She gave me a list of foods. It included foods to avoid and foods that were OK. Most meats were on the worst list. And I'm aware that gout can become serious enough to involve amputations. I haven’t had an attack since that time.
  46. ChrissyJo
    Brigid : I have seen a farm. The ones you speak of account for less than 10% of all meat produced in the US. That's what I used to think, too. I forget what book of the Bible it is in, since I am atheist, but I have seen more than a few quotes where the Bible says that "seeds" were intended to be our meat. Animals have to eat meat in the wild to survive. We do not. I know wild animals have to kill to survive, but we are intelligent enough that we do not have to. We just kill for the pleasure.
  47. ChrissyJo
    Since I have a lot of free time b4 going home, I looked some of the quotes up:
    You can correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not an expert in the area.

    Genesis 1:29. "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    Genesis 9:4. "But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat."

    Isaiah 66:3. "He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations."

    Religion has nothing to do with why I am vegetarian, obviously. I just don't like to rely on an outside source to tell me what is "right" and what is "wrong." My conscience tells me what I should and shouldn't do. It feels wrong to me, so I don't do it anymore.
    1. IanThal
      Bottom line, whether you are religious or secular, is that some people feel genuine compassion and empathy for animals, and if those feelings cause someone to avoid eating animals, then diet is a matter of conscience.
    2. acousticguitarist
      i agree, it's nothing about religion...my son has to eat meat but my daughter doesn't...my preference is to be a vego but i have to support my son...so once a week i grin and bear it...but i can't stand it
  48. jonbeme
    I have known many vegetarian people who are good honest people...
    hang in there...
  49. varniticula
    I admire those who can be vegetarians. I couldn't give up eating meat unless I absolutely had to.
  50. jonbeme
    I agree with you varniticula
  51. People
    I think vegetarians are hot.
  52. RMania
    I'm anti-vegetarian. Though I confess that sometimes I will go a day or two myself without eating meat.
    1. acousticguitarist
      that's hilarious...aniti vego ....so funny ...watch out they mkight throw a lettuce at you..
    2. RMania
      And I'll take that lettuce and make a Cobb salad with extra bacon.
  53. dpivans1
    Genesis 9:1-3 says: "Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything."

    Just found this...makes me feel better...cause I don't think I could live without a juicy sirloin every once in awhile. :O)
    1. RMania
      I would have a hard time living without juicy sirloins too, but I'm really not a big fan of that Bible passage at all... the idea that the planet and all living things on it are just there for us to do whatever the hell we want to do with them. I prefer the exact opposite view, that human beings are in no way objectively superior than any other life form, but just another species with a niche that has evolved naturally over millions of years... a niche that happens to include eating dead meat.
    2. kab625
      Maybe God meant spiritual food.
  54. dpivans1
    lol...I was kidding. Guess I'm gonna have to make that more clear next time.
    1. acousticguitarist
      you better check the rest of the book, you're not getting off that easily :-)
  55. RMania
    I didn't figure you were really serious though there are plenty of people out there who subscribe to that idea of "dominion," which they feel is justified by passages like that in their holy texts. Kind of a shitty attitude I think.
  56. dpivans1
    Off-track...I don't really live my life by the bible. Because I could never pick and choose like so many do. Otherwise, I'd have to stone my kids for cursing me...lol
    1. acousticguitarist
      is stoning children legal where you live?

      you could try feeding them maccas, that's a form of chemical torture, but a lot of people don't realize it.

      or even better, take them down to the surf on a nice day and tell them they are not allowed in the water..

      or how about...make them gluten free like more poor 13 year old has to be, it's torturous beyond belief and very expensive
    2. RMania
      You're right, anybody who truly and faithfully lived by the Bible, especially the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), especially Deuteronomy, would not function so well in modern society.
  57. momoftwingirls
    I think they need to eat meat. If they are so much in love with the animal kingdom, then they will have to stop purchasing everything in our marketplace because almost all the products we buy have some sort of animal byproduct in them.

    It is a jungle out there and we, HUMAN BEINGS, are at the top of the foodchain. Our needs to live and thrive have to, no, must come first. Last time I checked, no animal in the animal kingdom paid taxes for any local,state or national service, much less retail prodcuts.

    Don't get me wrong, I like and repect the animal kingdom, I mean God made animals too, but I do not treat animals as if they are on the same level as I am either. They are called animals for a reason.
    1. acousticguitarist
      um ...if i was in a room with a lion that was hungry..would i still be at the top of the food chain?
    2. mtchick
      I would still dislike the taste of meat even if animals paid my taxes for me.

      Eating meat is a personal choice made for personal reasons, none of which have anything to do with anyone else, and I don't know why it's any concern of anyone else what I eat.

      Meat turns my stomach, makes me gag, and clogs my arteries, and there you have it.
    3. IanThal
      The notion of "top of the food chain" is bunk. Last I checked, the top land predator award went to the giant cats. It wasn't until the invention of projectile weapons that we were any competition for them. No matter how many other beasts you eat, you are still food for bacteria, grubs, worms, mold, and fungus and anything else. The food chain is not linear; It's more like a tangled web of thousands of strands with no end.

      " If they are so much in love with the animal kingdom, then they will have to stop purchasing everything in our marketplace because almost all the products we buy have some sort of animal byproduct in them."

      Guess what? There are a lot of alternatives to animal consumption. I have been a vegetarian now for about 14 years. I do purchase dairy products like cheese, but otherwise, the only thing I purchase with animal products are my leather boots-- which is simply because I cannot find a non-animal alternative that works as well. It's terribly easy-- but I also recycle and reuse in order to minimize my ecological footprint (and have done so since I was a child.)

      Even if you believe that humans are at the "top", why are they not permitted to abdicate the throne? What if one feels genuine empathy for animals-- must one still eat them in order to support your markets? Doesn't the fact that humans can feel empathy give them the a moral choice here? Maybe you wish to rephrase your argument, because it seems you are arguing that people are not entitled to make a moral decision on their own.
  58. dpivans1
    acousticguitarist...no it isn't!
    and I'm done on this...I was joking earlier...I'm no longer talking about religion or the bible!
  59. momoftwingirls
    You probably would not be in a room with a Lion in the first place. How likely is that senario?
    1. acousticguitarist
      a great response...and funny, thanks

      it's a form of arrogance to think that humans are at the top of the food chain...and please don't think that i think you are arrogant

      i think everything needs to be treated with the same respect,

      there's a very old view that man is king and all that sort of stuff, i don't like it at all, it's tyranical..we share a beautiful world with lots of other beings, seen and unseen and to think that we can just treat it with disrespect is a concern, or i think should be...we are single handedly stuffing this planet
  60. footiam
    It's arrogance too to decide who should eat what. There shouldn't be any problem whether a person is a vegetarian or not. Eat just to live will do!
  61. homebase
    I have been a vegetarian for over 25 years. I chose to go veggie simply because my husband and children preferred veggie food and I couldn't be bothered to cook meat for myself. I am healthy on a veggie diet but certainly wouldn't force my food preferences on anyone else. And I've never had meat eaters gang up on me for not eating meat!
    1. IanThal
      > I've never had meat eaters gang up on me for not eating meat!

      Welcome to BlogCatalog.
    2. footiam
      I think that's great!
  62. harleyblues
    all you damn meat eaters hafta do Is watch a video at a slaughter house simple as that your might change your mind! lol

    I go back and fourth will not eat beef thats fosho! but I do like fish they have no legs, But being veggie is difficult. people eat what they like you cannot force it down their throats to eat or not to eat that IS the question!
    ta
    hb~
  63. xerendipity
    Actually, I am Omnivorous!
  64. ritubpant
    they like to eat vegetables
  65. PetLvr
    .. as I recall one person who replied to that very same question .. "What Do You Think Of Vegetarians?" ... he said.

    I hope I will be one too. Not only do I want to live to be a Vegetarian, but I hope to be an Octogenarian .. and eventually live to be a hundred years old!
  66. asecondlook
    I couldn't eat a whole one
  67. rinkydinky
    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    I've just become a vegitarian because of this video: www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp?gclid=CP3XsqfWgo8CFRqsOAodYHoI3A
    1. ChrissyJo
      Things such as that video are the reason why I became veg. After I made the switch though and did a lot more digging, there are a lot of benefits for your health and the environment, too.
  68. brigid
    Good grief, this has gotten weird.

    Let me say this: I like animals. A lot. Sometimes I'd rather be around animals than people. Though I've been fishing and played hunting games, I don't think I could ever actually kill anything. (I was never involved with the actual killing of the fish I caught.)

    I still eat meat.

    A friend of my Grandfather's had very similar ideas to mine. When asked why he wasn't a vegetarian, he said, "I am, one step removed."

    Humans have a digestive system designed to handle meat and vegetables, we have dentition designed for both. And speaking for myself I have felt definite cravings for foods rich in proteins. (And meat is a source of fiber.)

    So I see nothing unethical about eating meat. If you do, that's you. I won't condemn you so don't condemn me.
  69. ChrissyJo
    Having someone else kill something FOR you is the same as killing it. Think of a scenario where you hire someone to kill your spouse? Still illegal.
    1. brigid
      Killing a human and killing an animal are two entirely different things.

      Good grief, didn't someone else make the argument that humans don't need to eat meat because we're higher evolved than animals like lions and wolves? If you want to go the argument route you're on now it would be quite simple to argue that any carnivore is committing the mortal sin of murder.
  70. n8
    I have no beef with vegetarians..he heh.

    My brother and sister are vegetarians for health reasons. I eat a lot of what they do to, but will never give up chicken or fish. I do have a problem with the vegetarians that make it their mission to make me try to feel like a murderer for eating flesh and the downside of the meat industry.

    I look at them the same way I look at religious zealots. I have no problem with your beliefs. Just don't push them on me or we'll tangle. And I bite...and eat meat...
    1. mtchick
      Speaking as a vegetarian, I couldn't care less what other people eat. Don't think of us all as zealots. I buy, cook, and serve meat to my family every day and have no problem with the fact that they eat it.
    2. n8
      I'm not saying that at all.

      I have many friends who are vegetarians and am a fan of many vegetarian dishes. This is the only issue I have with the vegetarian lifestyle as well as those who want to push their religious beliefs on me. Eat what you want and worship how you want just don't tell me I'm going to hell for eating ham. That's all..

      At holidays I make vegetarian dishes for my siblings as it's usually a meat ladened event.

      I think we're on the same wave length. I'm down with the veggies. I had tofurkey for Thanksgiving last year.
    3. brigid
      Ditto.

      Like the person above who equated killing animals with murder. Not exactly the sort of thing to inspire good will between vegetarians and omnivores.
  71. lordsomber
    Vegan/vegetarianism has dire evolutionary consequences...

    pungeon.blogspot.com/2006/12/grit-of-survival-deferred.html
    1. ChrissyJo
      I read your post - neanderthals didn't have the knowledge of nutrition that we have today. We now have the intelligence to get the same nutrients elsewhere and considering the modern environment we live in now, we're not going to become extinct due to vegetarianism.
  72. lordsomber
    I'm sorry, I was just trying out this new thing called "Satire™."
    1. ChrissyJo
      Satire sucks!
  73. globalgirl
    can't we all get along? peace, love, chicken and veggies.
  74. Albran
    I was told, eating meat means taking another consciousness into your system. Who would want that? I have enough to convert with my own.
    1. decoratorinside
      I don't understand that concept. If something is DEAD, it has no consciousness... it's just, well, dead meat. BUT animal meat is getting dirtier and dirtier as the years go by. Just imagine what a piece of poorly chewed meat does when it sits in your warm dark intestines for 3 days. Can't imagine? Take a piece of steak and set it in a warm dark wet box for 3 days. yuck
  75. globalgirl
    i'll pass on the brussel sprouts.
  76. lisamcglaun
    I'm a vegetarian. Have been for about two years. I'd hate to think that people would decide if they like me based on what I eat...good grief.
  77. mellowedblues
    I hate cauliflowers.

    I'm not a vegetarian but I've stopped eating KFC because of this website www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/.

    It's just sick.
    1. footiam
      Thanks for the link!
  78. MartinPlatt
    they're tasty.
  79. deerwood
    Like a minority of people on here, I am vegetarian. That is my choice,it is not a choice I impose on my wife, kids or visitors. I have been vegetarian for around 14 years and I try to make a point of not imposing my views upon others.
    I feel I get a very varied diet that contains all the necessary nutrients.
    There is, however, a lot more to me than my dietary choice and I'd hope that anyone who wanted to get to know me would do so because of other factors than just my vegetarian diet.

    Doug
    www.dougwoods.com
  80. decoratorinside
    I am not a vegetarian, but I am seriously considering becoming one.
    1. footiam
      Become a smart vegetarian! Have a good reason and choose your food!
  81. linkandearn
    what is meat?

    Vegetrarian - us , our parents, grandparents,great grandparents, great great grandparents , g.g.g.grandparents .....
  82. pobeptr
    I am neither for or against this life style. What upsets me is when some choosing to consume only vegetable's, wand to try and change my life style. Lighten up, get a life and leave me and my life style choices alone.
    Tongue in cheek 'living green' blog town-n-country.blogspot.com
  83. zawadi
    my son was vegetarian when he was a toddler, but I had to play hit and miss with meats. He liked it in Spaghetti. I am not a big meat eater,not even as a kid. I love veggies and would choose that even over fruits( most make me puke).
    I will eat fried plantain and rice for breakfast, I guess that's weird for some people.

    I would say being a vegetarian is healthier , than eating the hormone grown meats. Would be even better if most of the veggies and fruits you ate came from your own garden.
  84. timethief
    FWIW
    30 reasons for becoming a vegetarian
    www.liferesearchuniversal.com/vegetarian.html
    21 reasons for becoming a vegetarian
    www.vernoncoleman.com/torfbav.htm
    49 Reasons for becoming a vegetarian
    [Source: The Whole Earth Vegetarian Catalogue]
    www.britishmeat.com/49.htm
    Livestock's Long Shadow
    www.virtualcentre.org/en/library/key_pub/longshad/a0701e/A0701E00.pdf
  85. jafabrit
    neither for or against, how others choose to eat is their business. What I don't like is the ignorance about it, and the nasty comments directed by either side and this holier than thou attitude.

    I am not a vegetarian (my daughter became one at 6) but I eat very little meat. Part of that is I don't feel I require meat on a daily basis. I also don't feel comfortable supporting an industry that is so profit driven it has reduced animal husbandry to some pretty disturbing practices. Still these are my feelings and my personal choice and I would no more want to impose my choices as be imposed on for them.
  86. DrBurst
    I became a vegan when I hit 260 pounds, now i'm down to 220 and stll dropping. That was around new years that I switched.
  87. kaguvkov
    I am a vegetarian..Its quite good and you can see your skin is glowing everyday unlike eating meat and other stuff. Meat eating causes kidney malfunction in your later years.
    1. jafabrit
      Do you have any evidence to support that? Is it meat itself or eating an excessive amount, or current meat (non organic)?
  88. jafabrit
    I don't subscribe to any eating plan that is extreme and it has never seemed a healthy plan to me (and not a sustainable one) It in fact supports my view that eating anything in excess (or limiting to one food product) is going to prove to have unhealthy side effects.

    It doesn't really support that eating meat itself is the issue, just eating only meat and too much of it.



    Thanks for taking the time to find and provide the links.
    1. jafabrit
      I did find this article that talks about a meat based diet as being unhealthy, but again that seems to support that it isn't meat itself, but eating too much and what type (how it is farmed).
      www.emagazine.com/view/?142
    2. DrBurst
      that is true, but taking a middle path is hard, it seems to be that people eat no meat or to much meat
  89. jefftompkins71
    They're easier to catch b/c of their weakness and they taste GREAT! Meat-eaters are too salty. Not that I'm a cannibal. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
  90. myriadlife
    Up until about a year ago I always ate meat and poultry. But I had suffered for a very long time with IBS which resulted in excrutiating pain at times. Gradually through a process of elimination I found that if I dropped meat the pain went completely. I haven't touched it since, I don't miss it because the pain was terrible. I still eat fish.

    I don't think people should be judged by what they do or don't eat. We all have different reasons for what we do.
  91. pajagre
    I don;t care.... the simple truth is that if everyone in the world decided to go vegetarian, there wouldn't be enough food for everyone. I love my vegetables, but you can't beat meat
    1. IanThal
      Actually, that depends where one lives. In most temperate and tropical climates, it takes less acreage to provide enough food for a vegetarian diet than it does to provide grazing for cattle-- in climates where it is hard to grow vegetables from which humans can get much nutrition, meat eating can be seen as a necessity for human life.
  92. wehireu
    Human beings weren't designed to eat the amount of animal protein they are eating now. I am not saying that vegetarianism is right. I am saying that people should eat a lot less meat for their health and the balance of life on earth.

    People with cows often don't eat meat every day, they drink the milk and make cheese, but not steaks every day. People are eating way too much meat. It is wrecking a lot of peoples lives. You can see it with the huge amount of obesity and coronary diseases.

    The arguments for land use are sometimes false. Banana plantations and melon plantations in the rainforest destroy lots of land. Very close to the amount of cattle farming.

    There are appropriate places for cattle, chicken, and other livestock.
  93. enso
    I don't have a problem with it. I do have a problem with people who value animal life more than human life, as some radicals do. I personally choose to eat less meat and to buy meat that's been raised sustainably and by family farmers when I do - I'm OK with ethical animal husbandry and I'm in favor of consumer demand for sustainable small-scale industry. I'm also soy-intolerant, so strict no-meat is actually not easily feasible for my health.
  94. greekgourmand
    Frankly I do not think of them at all until someone pops up and asks a question like: "What do you think of vegetarians?"

    :-)

    "Are there any vegetarians out there?" Assuredly as a bear crapping in the woods...though, I am not one myself -that is, neither vegetarian nor bear.

    "Why do people become vegetarians?" I have entertained the idea that it is a form of vanity...perhaps one of the more extreme forms, but I cannot say for certain.

    "Are you for or against vegetarians?" As long as vegetarians do not try to proselytize or threaten me in any way, I would have to say that I find myself quite indifferent on the question; neither hot nor cold.
    1. IanThal
      As long as vegetarians do not try to proselytize or threaten me in any way

      To be honest, I only ever knew one annoyingly proselytizing vegetarian from my life before I became a vegetarian.

      On the other hand, I have met countless proselytizing carnivores whose entire world view seems under threat when they encounter a vegetarian.
  95. RioTheYorkiePoo
    @md Santa = more meat for US:-)
    Don't forget I'm a doggie
    Just joking...hehehe
    I think vegetarians are human beings! Right?
    so...I have NO problems with their taste
    or diet...I have my nutrition...they have theirs
    and life goes on!
    RESPECT is all it takes to understand.
  96. jackpayne
    Vegatarians are lovely people. What's this got to do with the war in China?
    1. footiam
      You tell me!
  97. jackpayne
    Chewing on sticks of Beef Jerky will cure them of the habit.
  98. vegetarians
    i am vegetarian
    and i have a blog about it.
    vegetarianbloggers.blogspot.com
  99. footiam
    Thanks for the link! Will visit immediately!
  100. AmyOops
    I'm married to one. It is intresting I think my kids are like the only ones who like tofu
    1. IanThal
      It's all how you prepare the tofu.
    2. ranist22
      I love it too!
  101. stilesjp
    I think they're really sexy.

    If they're women.

    I find women sexy.
  102. ccRicers
    Vegetarians are cool people, until they tell you to become one of them.

    Anyways, our teeth are not built for carnivores nor herbivores. They're built for omnivores.
    1. IanThal
      When I still ate meat, only one of the vegetarians of my acquaintance ever attempted to proselytize their diet to me.

      On the other hand since I became a vegetarian, I have lost count of the number of meat-eaters who have insisted on proselytizing to me that I should be eating meat -- which is why I find this thread so annoying.
  103. lindsay39
    I am a vegetarian, as are my three kids. I never try to tell others what to eat when we go out to restaurants, but am CONSTANTLY harassed by meat eaters who seem to have some need to pick on my food choices. I never make a big deal about what I order, nor make faces at theirs, but I am regularly told my choices are stupid, unhealthy, etc. Then there are the ones who feel some need to wave their steak under my nose, or tell me in detail about the meat dish they cooked/ate the night before.

    Makes me think eating meat makes people grouchy! And rude!
    1. jafabrit
      Yes, my daughter gets that too, not sure why! Why should it be of any concern or interest to someone else what another person chooses to eat.
    2. IanThal
      I've had the same experience, lindsay39.
  104. Turmoyle
    4 out of 5 cannibals prefer vegetarians...
  105. pele1
    I think to each their own. There are so many varying degrees of veganism too from the ones that just don't do red meat but eat chicken and fish to ones who do fish only to ones that exclude meat altogether (which is what I always thought being a vegetarian was) and then ones that exclude meat and dairy and broth or anything that was derived from animals in any form whether meat or milked or whatever. Then there's the raw diet... It's dizzying!
  106. ericdknapp
    I'm a carnivore, but I'm 100% in favor of vegetarians. In fact I married one!

    If you'd like to give up eating chicken, read my book - it's been known to have that effect on people.

    www.cluckthebook.com
  107. abhishekkumar
    The life of vegies is miserbale I can't live without fried flesh..
  108. pobeptr
    wehireu
    "You can see it with the huge amount of obesity and coronary diseases."

    I'm afraid you missed the part about no exercise, potato chips 'crisp'
    french fries 'chips' ice cream, cookies 'biscuits', gallons of soft drinks and simply over eating, being the root cause of obesity which is a major cause of heart disease, high blood pressure and a number of other life threating diseases.
  109. VampireXxX
    I am a Vegetarian although I am a Vampire LOL
    Being a Vegetarian, I feel much better
  110. Lundygirl
    I was veggie until about 2 years ago, when I went back to eating fish and think it is very much a personal choice. There are health issues to be considered, and of course the cruelty aspect, but for me the overriding thing is the environmental impact of meat eating in terms of the amount of water used, manure produced and the fact that land used for animal grazing and meat production could produce a much larger and more nutitrious crop that would feed humans. It makes no sense to me that soya beans grown in the third world are fed to animals when they could be fed to humans.
  111. Anniepooh
    Whatever works. It's not really a moral question, just a personal choice. I do "Veggie Wednesday's" at my blog for those of my readers who are vegan/vegetarian/felixitarian. If you do it, more power to ya; if not, I'll hook you up with some great meat recipes!
  112. Daudleikr
    Meat eater! *chews on some whale*
    I could care less what other people eat. It's none of my business what they eat, and it's none of their business what I eat... as long as we don't eat babies or anything like that.
  113. GFG
    They eat vegetables?
  114. buyersweb
    Dang.... i dont mind at all if there either doesnt fase me...You cant judge ppl on food...I love vegies...
  115. saraho
    I am, for both moral and health reasons.
  116. clioandme
    I overheard someone today say, "I don't really respect her being a vegetarian", the implication being that there was something almost morally wrong with her for not eating meat. How weird is that? I get that some people are vegetarians for moral reasons, but I don't understand why anyone would judge a vegetarian for being one. Who the heck are vegetarians hurting, anyway?
    1. IanThal
      We're harming the meat and fast-food industries, I suppose.

      We're opting out of the traditional Western diet, and thus, choosing to be "other", which induces some weird existential crisis amongst some folk-- "why would somebody want to be different than me? Why would they want to eat differently?"

      But I've also known of similar hostility regarding kosher dietary laws: After the expulsion of Jews and Muslims from Spain, it became customary to eat large amounts of pork and ham in public festivals both to assert one's Catholicism and to flush out Jews and Muslims in hiding.
  117. kataztrophy
    "What do you think of vegetarians?"

    I think they could use some meat on their bones. *rimshot*
  118. PetLvr
    "What do you think of vegetarians?"

    FYI

    Vegetarians: They do not eat any meat products, but they eat dairy products and eggs.

    Vegans: They do not consume ANY animal products.

    I suppose it's a viewpoint of what you think of people who really have empathy about eating anything that's been alive or living.

    It doesn't matter to me.
    1. footiam
      It doesn't matter to a lot of people!
  119. aningeniousname
    I think we should wait for the UN sanctions to kick in and kill a few thousand kids and then if that doesn't make them do what we want them to do, we should attack Vegetaria with everything we have got.
  120. RuthieHochman
    Tried it 3x... last time lasted 9 months... although this last stint I time was a fish only vegan... just broke spell in June... Vegans are cool... personal choice... live and let live... Hmmm...? Sort of a weird statement considering subject matter... and the fact that I actually really enjoy meat... yikes!!! Vegans Rock! Meatatarians Rule!!!

    ruthies.reason.blogspot.com/
  121. deerwood
    I am a vegetarian so maybe I am not the best person to comment on this. My choice of vegetarianism is just that; my choice. I do not seek to impose it upon other people and accept that everyone has a right to their own choice of food preferences.
  122. SweetViolet
    There are certain nutrients that the human body needs that are not available through a vegan diet.

    There is no vegetable in the world that contains complete protein. By carefully combining certain vegetarian foods that combine partial proteins, complete proteins can be formed. I am unconvinced, however, that the average vegetarian knows which foods contain which amino acids and how to combine them to create the complete protein required.

    Even a vegetarian who is able to do that cannot make a combination that provides vitamin B12 as it does not exist outside animal products. Human bodies require this vitamin for health. You can take supplements for it...but the ONLY natural source of this vitamin is animal products.

    This topic is as volatile as religion and adherents often have the same head-in-the-sand attitude as the fervently religious, i.e., don't try to confuse me with facts because you can't change my mind. But despite the vegetarian and vegan claims to the contrary, it is not the healthiest of diets because too little attention is paid to the PROPER combinations of vegetarian fare to create complete proteins and because of the B12 thing.

    BTW, children have actually died due to being fed vegetarian diets that were nutritionally inadequate...there was a new case in the news just last month.

    EDIT: Re B12 deficiency: Deborah and Roby Jan Moorhead deny the manslaughter of six-month-old Caleb, by failing to provide the necessaries of life...He died in March last year from medical complications due to a lack of vitamin B12. www.second-opinions.co.uk/child_abuse.html
  123. myriadlife
    It concerns me greatly that for most of my life I ate meat and was subject to many bouts of food poisoning and continuing stomach problems. A couple of years ago I decided to cut it out of my diet and only eat fish. I haven't had a stomach problem since, no pain, no nothing.

    I loved eating meat but now I can't bear the thought of it and I wish I'd never touched the stuff.
    1. SweetViolet
      Did you have any medical testing done? It may not have been meat but something you ate with it or prepared it in or even how it was stored and/or prepared.

      Spoilage (and resultant food poisoning) is more common in seafood products than red meat as red meat can "age" for a couple of weeks before eating it becomes problematic.

      I'm not saying that you should resume eating meat, only that you be medically certain that was the cause of your trouble...if it was something else (and the meat was triggering symptoms) you could have something that should get medical attention.

      Also, if you are not eating red meat, please make sure you are getting an adequate intake of iron from other sources.
  124. myriadlife
    uh oh, triple posted -sorry!
  125. irtiza104
    nothing to think, their choice
  126. NatetheGrate
    What do I think of vegetarians? That depends, entirely, on what they think of me!
  127. pumpkinlights
    ""Are there any vegetarians out there?""
    Yes, I am one.

    ""Why do people become vegetarians?""
    Because I do want to eat living creatures. I try to avoid using animals products for my needs as much as possible.
  128. calais50
    I think they have chosen a healthy, intelligent lifestyle, and many have a great compassion for animals. I am a meat eater, but I definitely see the benefits of being a vegetarian.
    1. SweetViolet
      As I stated above: There is no vegetable in the world that contains complete protein. By carefully combining certain vegetarian foods that contain partial proteins, complete proteins can be formed. I am unconvinced, however, that the average vegetarian knows which foods contain which amino acids and how to combine them to create the complete protein required.

      Check this website for some interesting information about vegetarianism and nutrition: www.ninaplanck.com/index.php?article=vegan_risk
    2. Anok
      Actually, you can get complete proteins by mixing things such as rice and beans together.

      Meat and poultry, fish they have their benefits and if a person doesn't have access to a wide variety of foods they are necessary in your diet in small quantities.

      But if you do have access to non animal foods - you can have a perfectly healthy vegetarian or vegan diet. My husband and I were both vegans for some time - and we have friends/family members who were vegetarians for the vast majority of their adult lives.

      None of them had any (abnormal) health problems, and most did not have any of the common health problems that many people have today such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart problems, or problems associated with obesity, diabetes, etc. (Unless they were genetically predisposed which happens).
  129. SweetViolet
    Please read the article cited above. The human body needs certain nutrients that are available ONLY through animal sources, chief among them vitamin B12 and Omega 3 fatty acids. Even breast milk from vegan mothers lacks those nutrients if the mother's diet does not contain them. Further up I posted a link to a story about an infant who died of complications of B12 deficiency because of his parents' vegan diet. Lack of B12 and cholesterol (also only available through animal-based foods) can cause devastating consequences to infants and young children. Children in particular need certain animal-based nutrients to grow and for their brains to develop properly.

    As far as the complete proteins, you are correct. Unfortunately, if you lined up 100 self-professed vegetarians and asked them what a complete protein is, why they (and their children) need them, and how to create them in a vegetarian diet, I would guess less than 25% would even know what you are talking about.

    Vegetarianism is too often entered into for emotional reasons (I just couldn't eat that poor little lambie!) or because it is trendy, or a friend is doing it, or you can lose some weight...and NOT after some serious research on how to do it and remain healthy. As such, I consider it a dangerous food fad, and veganism slow suicide.
    1. Anok
      Well, I was vegan when I was pregnant - and my child didn't have a single drop of animal products until the age of two (give or take 6 months).

      Punky is not only fine, Punky is above expectations, and has always been in the top 90th percentile in growth, and mental development and cognitive skills. I worked closely with the pediatrician, however to ensure that a vegan diet was not in any way harmful. And it wasn't. (Neither does it seem to be harmful to the entire cultures who sustain on vegetarian diets for religious reasons and have done so for centuries). To this day we still eat very little meat. In fact, you only need a tiny amount of meat in your diet to begin with - the US ideal of meat for every meal is not only wrong, but very unhealthy!

      It's better to get your calcium, iron, and potassium from fatty and non fatty sources like avocados, spinach, and dandelion greens. Nuts are a great source too.

      I agree with you that not having proper nutritional education means a veg-diet can be very harmful. I watched one friend try to do it on ramen noodles and whatever. Obviously, that diet failed

      But to say it can't or shouldn't be done right is a bit disingenuous. It absolutely can be done - so long as you have access to a wide variety of foods, and a bit of know-how.
    2. timethief
      Note: sweetviolet
      This is not directed at you. Check out how old this thread is and check out the title and intent of the thread.

      I am irritated that this thread which was so obviously aimed at being a "pick on vegetarians" post is still being drug out of the forum search box and used as a soapbox over and over again.

      I'm aware that complete protein cannot be obtained only from vegetarian sources and I'm aware of how easy it is to supplement and achieve what my body needs. I'm also aware that most of the meat that we North Americans eat is from feedlot animals who receive antibiotics throughout their lives and hormones for weight gain purposes in the last 3 months of their lives prior to slaughter. I'm also aware of livestock's long shadow and the environmental damage that's done by keeping the number of animals that are kept today in horrible conditions in confinement by factory farm corporations, who are making record high profits. www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.htm

      The bottom line here at our house is that my husband and I do not want to eat meat or fish any more frequently than 2 to 3 days of the week. We are aware of how to balance our nutritional intake properly to achieve and maintain good health. Neither of us is overweight. We are both fit. The meat we do eat is from organic local producers. What we are sick and tired of is being told by humans, many of whom themselves who look like pigs and cattle being fattened for market themselves that we should eat more meat.
  130. Bayho
    i actually think its a great idea..i mean i hardly eat meat im not a big fan but i do eat chicken more then meat.. i honestly think i could do it because i eat soo much veggies.. and every time there's meat in something i always end up taking it out. lol.. so im proud of them., i think it takes great will [power to do something like that
    1. footiam
      I sometimes think so too but I am still an omnivore!
  131. navuta
    I also know that dont eating meat is not bad for your heath, you can live a much better and healthier life being vegetarian. Just watch the documentary about how they treat the animals and probably you will rethink about eating meat. Also they say that todays Americans have a much smaller head than the frenchs because of the high volume of meat consumed on the USA. VEGETARIANS SAVE'S THE WORLD>....
  132. ckent27
    I don't care either way if someone is a vegetarian or not. I have never been a big meat eater. Not by choice, just don't like it. But now and then I crave a burger etc.
  133. gosmelltheflowers
    Veggies?

    Don't they hate plants??
  134. Stillthinking
    I think that there are many arguments for and against a vegetarian diet. I tend to side with the for. That being said, I still eat meat for the time being, but my reasons for wanting to give up meat have more to do with modern industrialized meat producers than with ethical concerns.

    The Meat Industry (and don't kid yourselves- it is an industry) is one of the largest consumers of petroleum and antibiotics while being one of the largest producers of green house gasses. If you want to have a discussion about the abuse of antibiotics, you must include in the discussion the massive ingestion of antibiotics by cattle, swine and poultry. Let's also talk about the fact that most grain produced in this country is not produced for human consumption, but for livestock. That is an enormous investment of land and resources that could be put to other uses, not to mention polluting the land and water with petroleum based fertilizers and pesticides. Let's also talk about how grain is a highly unnatural diet for cattle.

    Corn fed beef is not a good thing. Biologically, cattle are supposed to graze on a variety of natural grasses. A corn based diet thwarts their natural digestive system forcing them to expel huge amounts of methane gas, short circuiting their immune systems (hence the antibiotics)and if kept on a grain diet for longer than a couple of months, will kill them. Also, if you're in the tiniest bit afraid of Mad Cow disease, you should be terrified. Meat producers in this country claim that there is no possibility of a Mad Cow outbreak. They are lying. Meat producers regularly feed rendered beef to swine and poultry, rendered pork to cattle and poultry, and rendered poultry to cattle and swine. The theory is that the added protein will make these herbivores grow larger faster. This is the same theory behind feeding swine their own urine rather than water. This is also a circuitous method of transferring prions from one species to another.

    Choosing to be vegetarian is a personal choice and truth be told, I think the US is going to see a huge outbreak of Jacob-Kreutzfeld (human infection from Mad Cow Prions takes 20-30 years to incubate) disease within the next couple of decades.

    If you are going to eat meat, you should eat organic: grass fed beef, free range chicken, wild caught fish, and antibiotic free, naturally raised pork. It's better for you, better for the environment, and supports farms that use sustainable practices. If cost is an issue, ingesting less meat is better for your LDL's anyway.
    1. timethief
      Right on! I'm so sick of hearing negative responses to vegetarians from meat eaters, who don't have a clue about what actually goes on in factory farms and what's actually fed to the animals they eat. It's no wonder that we have so many unhealthy humans, who look like fattened hogs and steers ready for slaughter.

      I also agree with your prediction: I think the US is going to see a huge outbreak of Jacob-Kreutzfeld (human infection from Mad Cow Prions takes 20-30 years to incubate) disease within the next couple of decades.

      In your last paragraph you have described the approach my husband and I took years ago. We do NOT eat processed "food products". We eat real whole foods and we eat meat or fish only 3 times weekly. Also what we eat is exactly what you described.

      If you are going to eat meat, you should eat organic: grass fed beef, free range chicken, wild caught fish, and antibiotic free, naturally raised pork. It's better for you, better for the environment, and supports farms that use sustainable practices. If cost is an issue, ingesting less meat is better for your LDL's anyway.
  135. terraking
    My daughter and my best friend are vegetarians and so I love them. It is a healthy lifestyle. I am not that disciplined. Maybe someday.
  136. joemarkowitz
    I like vegetarians very much, especially with a nice glass of chianti to wash them down.
    1. timethief
      Ahhh ... a humor blogger with a lame joke ... ;-)
  137. SaedT
    peaceful and considerate
  138. lovesome1
    Its a healthy way to live and I think its awesome to have that much discipline, but its not the lifestyle for me. I agree with some people above, it is the circle of life and a purpose of meat is to eat it.
    1. SweetViolet
      Actually, it is not a healthy way to live.

      There is absolutely NO vegetarian source of Vitamin B12, an essential nutrient. It simply does not exist outside of animal food sources. Unless the vegetarian eats dairy and/or eggs, by definition, that person will be malnourished due to a lack of B12.

      Furthermore, women who do not have an adequate intake of B12 themselves will be unable to supply B12 to a developing fetus and it will not be a component of her breastmilk, leading to poor nourishment of the fetus and nursing infant. In particular, proper brain development is negatively affected (see fn.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/extract/90/3/F281 for details).

      Vegetarians/vegans may supplement for B12, but then that means their diet is neither natural nor purely vegan/vegetarian, B12 being naturally sourced ONLY from animal products.
  139. archiegottlieb
    i respect them all, except the fanatics that force others to convert.
    1. lovesome1
      OMG I totally agree with that. I CAN'T STAND the people who try to force this lifestyle down people's throats and try to make you feel guilty by watching animal cruelty videos ( I love animals, but its the circle of life and we eat some of them) From personal experience( thats right I said personal experience so if your with PETA don't get offended), I absolutely find many PETA people annoying (yes, some are friends). I don't know, its a healthy lifestyle...but its not for everybody.
  140. websiteseed
    That means more meat for me then.mmmmmmmmmmm
    1. footiam
      And more cholestrol!
  141. pandanartrepublic
    straight edge for life!!
  142. LaurenM622
    i look at vegetarianism like i look at religion - if you're vegetarian, that's cool. just don't lecture me about eating meat and why being a vegetarian like you would make me healthier/a better person...

    i only eat meat a couple times a week, but i can definitely feel a difference (good) when i have a steak or a burger every week or so. i think people should listen to what their bodies say, and not follow a strict regimen just to follow a trend... your body is your best indicator! even if you say you're a vegetarian, if you're craving meat it means you should eat some!

    just no lecturing please :-)
  143. Shiley
    Firstly, I can't believe how ancient this thread is. Secondly, this thread is so old I may have said this before. If I did here I go again...

    I am a meat eater but I used to be a vegetarian. When I was a vegetarian I felt so much healthier. I wasn't getting extra fat from meat and I was getting all of the nutrients I needed. My little juicer made things so easy to get all that stuff.

    Did you know that if you are being influenced by your friends food decisions in a restaurant there are alternatives? At Taco Bell you can order a taco salad no meat. At Burger King you can order a Whopper no meat (Yum!) There is nothing wrong with being vegetarian and there is nothing wrong with being a meat eater. If you marry a meat eater and you're vegetarian, chances are your food choices will change.
  144. ArsenicCookies
    I am NOT a vegetarian... never will be. I suppose there is nothing wrong with a vegetarian who is educated in their decision enough to provide proper nutrition for their families (there are numerous accounts of uneducated types who have actually malnurished and in some cases starved their offspring to death). So long as I don't hav to put up with that holier than thou attitude that often accompanies it, I am fine... Not my path, cannot understand the logic, do not care to understand the logic, so long as I get my rare steak I am fine with what everyone else eats
  145. kdawg68
    I cry myself to sleep at night over the sensless slaughter of innocent plant life.

    Then I reach for a raw, bloody, steak from the bucket left near my cell door and begin viciously devouring, murmuring to all within earshot that one day "I shall avenge the loss of foliage!"
  146. bringbackpluto
    Being a vegetarian is a lifestyle choice.

    Some people think it's healthier and some people don't.

    Whatever opinion you may have about any topic, any subject, any dogma, any food, you can find another million or more people who believe the same thing.

    So I say eat whatever you'd like!
  147. hippygourmet
    Although some historians and anthropologists say that man is historically omnivorous, our anatomical equipment ­teeth, jaws, and digestive system ­favors a fleshless diet. The American Dietetic Association notes that "most of mankind for most of human history has lived on vegetarian or near-vegetarian diets."
  148. amybyrd21
    Animals taste better when cooked with vegetables.

    Have yall seen the cartoon Kimba It is a bout a lion type animal that wants his friends to go vegeterian. They ended up eating bugs and green leafy stuff. Yall should check it out.
  149. SaNn
    Vegetarian is simple the person who not eating meat related. I am neutral against vegetarian issues.
  150. kcavnayt
    I'm a holistic health practitioner and I'm supposed to insist that being vegetarian is better.

    My experience however has shown that though there are definite health benefits, ultimately it depends on what your genetic make-up is. If you come from a meat-eating race, there are parts of you that require tough proteins, if you come from a predominantly vegetarian race, there are proteins (like beef proteins) that are hard to digest and could cause serious problems.

    The benefits of being vegetarian are that your digestive system is more nimble so you're more mentally capable, faster to respond to medicine of any kind and sleep better in general. You also obviously get more of the vitamins and minerals necessary to keep healthy.

    By quitting eating meat, you help solve the global warming problem by throwing out less heat yourself; have better relationships because of smelling better (simple pheromones), and aid the health and repair of skin, muscle, bone and cell tissue in general in your body. This means you recover faster from injuries, look younger for longer, and stay more active in general.

    Meat and sadly, fish are leading carriers of toxic and endocrine system disrupting pollution, radiation included, so staying away from these helps lessen exposure to potentially harmful pollutants.

    That said, many vegetables are non-vegetarian themselves because much of any soil is made up of decomposed err.. flesh, and veggies and fruits absorb these nutrients as well. So in a way we are all meat eaters anyway.

    Hope this helps someone!
  151. idealpinkrose
    I always want to be one but I always crave for meat.
  152. owlbarn
    Eating an animal is simply wrong. No excuse. Have you ever peeked into a slaughter house. You will have tears in your eyes. It's that inhuman.
    Please! don't eat meat.
  153. NYCGirl
    I've been a vegetarian for a little over three years and I have never attempted to 'convert' anyone. What someone consumes is a personal decision.

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