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What's happening on BC?
Posted by nogueira • 10/13/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: angiea, bc, tonyb, tt
I have been a member of BlogCatalog for a few years but only the last months I have been active and I became a donator.
I really don't understand the new rules here after yesterday and I think AngieA and TonyB who owner BC must give us some explanations.
What did happen to timethief? First AngieA put several comments commending TT and suddenly she disappeared while the account of TT just ceased to exist whithout any explication. It shows disrespect for TT and all of us.
Whithout her BC is empty. Only a fool can't see it. Just take a look on discussions today. It makes feel very much boring and angry. I miss TT. The withdrawal of TT was the most wrong strategy of marketing I ever see.
So, AngieA and TonyB put your faces here and tell us anything to understand how the best member of BC evaporated. Can't you see both of you and all the members of BC are losing a lot? Or do you prefer superficial discussions?
Maybe I could be banned also with that discussion or they just remove it. Let's see if we have a democracy or a dictatorship here.
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i just noticed that TT is gone. I don't agree with SOME of the things TT say (or more with how she says them) but one thing is sure TT is one of the members that make BC a place I want to be in, she is also a friend.
I want us all to disagree and still find each other here the next day to chat and get mad at (until we shut off our laptops and return here without resentment for the other parties)
I also want BC to return to the place it was when I joined and the reason why I stayed. BC is a FAMILY of, by and for bloggers. Bloggers are full of shit and themselves, we like to talk (mostly about things others don't care to read about) and we like to feel free so the removed by comm is getting excessive.
Blogger doesn't like sex bloggers (as far as I can tell) but they agree to disagree by hosting sex blogs.
I think what happened here is that BC got so many complains (because tribes were formed) and in their zeal to make everyone happy, the place has turned into a zombiland/dictactorship. I miss the old, jolly garden.
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I agree with you and I know you don't like me at all. I respect what your put in your blog. It's a good surprise having you here. You are right. We disagree because it is part of DEMOCRACY and I'm lost here. I can't understand how someone can be banned after AngieA said wonderful things about TT. Thank you very much for the courage to expose yourself. Have you noticed that some members are afraid to give their opinions on some discussions?
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how come I don't like you. i don't even know you, lol!
the only thing i have noticed really is that people are reading all of this and not commenting or they r not even here
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You are right. People just take a loof here and going away. Are they afraid? It's not a good thing.
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Oh wow, TT's gone? Eeeps.
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I left BC for less than a week, come back after change of heart and I find TT account suspended.
And I was just like.... /sad_face :'(-
I'm very much sad. I have fibromyalgia as she has too. She helped me a lot even doing researches and posting on broadcasting. She is unique here because most of people just add you looking for a review on their blogs. I have been blocking everyone who adds me and asking me to click on Adsense or anything else. There must be a rule to report these things. Friendship don't need favors like that. Thank you very much to put your face here. As I told LolitaV it seems people are afraid to comment some discussions. We can see the result: BC is very much superficial. I am VERY MUCH ANGRY now we I have no doubt
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Yes. TT was the first person to welcome me to BC when I joined many months ago. She was also the first person to chew my ass out on a few mistakes I made on the discussions, but I did learn from it.
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What's happening on BC?
There's too much damn complaining and as they say -- misery loves company. -
Personnaly, I miss people like BennyGreenberg, KellyBax, Sensico, Jeunelle etc. very much. However puzzled I was by their suspension/exclusion, I wouldn't go so far as saying, BC is empty without them. There are still many engaging personnalities here, and there are sure to be many more to come. As for TT, I seem to remember she was asked not to act as Admin. To get an answer to your question, your best bet would surely be to contact admin directly: www.blogcatalog.com/contact/ They are usually quite open.-
What happened to Jeunelle? :O
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Were all those you mention actually suspended? Have you checked their profile pages? Do you know the circumstances in each case?
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Thank you. I just want that the couple AngieA and TonyB have more transparency on banning people. So I put that discussion and I got a reply but I still don't understand it very well.
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Thank you for you kindness.
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Thank you. She told me that. But what is acting like and Adm? Who can explain it to me? I have already sent private message to TonyB and I don't want to create "a negative" enviroment here because they could ban me too. hahahaha
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TT was removed because she did things that violated the TOS. She has been warned on numerous occasions to not incite an environment of negativity and did change her behavior after she was warned that she was about to be removed. However, recently, she went into the new tools section and started rating every tool on the tools section and instead of being helpful and a value to the community and the site she gave every tool she reviewed a 1 and wrote things like "no thank you", or I dont have this on my blog and never plan too. She has engaged in this type of attack behavior on new services that were launched by BC on almost ever occasion and sets a tone of negativity and nastiness that does nothing more than harm the community. I recognize she has contributed and helped out members of the community and for that very reason she wasn't removed a long time ago because of her negative impact here.-
That doesn't sound like the TT I knew who helped me into the BC community when I joined.
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I've known TT a lot longer and it does sound like something she would do. I don't think it's any different though than me looking at it and clicking off because it's not my thing. I don't think she's trying to be "nasty." She just likes clear concise reasons as to why it's there and how it will affect blogs. -
I found it very out of context for TT as well. While developing the new tools section we always figured she would be a great person to respond and post helpful reviews on new widgets and resources. Instead she was extremely negative and disruptive. -
When she has a fibromyalgia flare up she's like that. I can usually tell when she isn't up to par. Shortly after she emailed me saying she wasn't feeling so great.
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That explanation makes sense and hopefully puts a stop to other members jumping with conspiracy theories about why she was removed. -
That really surprises me becase TT was one of the most useful bloggers I've encountered here. uuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhh -
Mister TonyB, thank you so much for your explanation but I must be a dumble because I didn't understand you very much. Well, I have fibromyalgia as most of members of BC know and I have a brain fog because I have just finished a big article in French for a magazine. You can imagine how it can be difficult for me but I did it very well. What do you mean by "new tools section"? I'm really lost and if she did it that is not the TT I know. I appologize if I offend you. I just want to know what is happening here. Where are those "tool sections"? I only use the button to block people who adds me and asking me favors. Thank you very much but I still don't understand all the facts. Please, if you can, explain those new tools. I would never think TT could do such a thing.
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There is a tools section www.blogcatalog.com/tools/ I'm not sure what it's about yet so I wouldn't be any good for an explanation.
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I think Tony is saying that he perceived TT's criticisms as purely negative, not constructive, not designed to help people improve something. The latter is always welcome, the former can become a problem over time if it becomes a pattern.
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There you go.
Nogueira,
With regards to your health issues, I quite recently met someone who has been intoxicated with mercury, and learned you cannot cure yourself of any underlying condition in such a case. Further, you cannot detoxify yourself of mercury in presence of a negative electromagnetic field (field which impairs the immune system). This is usually not recognized by mainstream medecine. In case you would like to PM me on the subject matter, I would have a few suggestions, which you may like to twiddle with.
"Dr. M. Hanson, science director of the Swedish Association of Dental Mercury Patients, puts it this way: "a number of syndromes such as neurasthenia, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, chemical sensitivity, amalgam poisoning and electro-sensitivity are interrelated, identical or overlapping. Many of the symptoms of these disorders (with individual variations) are the same. This, together with known effects of EMF, heavy metals and chemicals and the result of therapies indicates that very basic biochemical and biophysical processes are disturbed, such as the calcium balance, etc.""
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Mister TonyB, thank you so much for your explanation but I must be a dumble because I didn't understand you very much. Well, I have fibromyalgia as most of members of BC know and I have a brain fog because I have just finished a big article in French for a magazine. You can imagine how it can be difficult for me but I did it very well. What do you mean by "new tools section"? I'm really lost and if she did it that is not the TT I know. I appologize if I offend you. I just want to know what is happening here. Where are those "tool sections"? I only use the button to block people who adds me and asking me favors. Thank you very much but I still don't understand all the facts. Please, if you can, explain those new tools. I would never think TT could do such a thing.
I hope this time my reply goes to TonyB. The computer shows "replyingto comment by TonyB and it went to other. -
You're replying to TonyB on this thread, but everyone can read your post and respond. If you want to reply to Tony and only Tony, then you should use his shoutbox.
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Makes sense Tony.
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Shiley, thanks very much. With my brain fog I would have difficult to find it. You're nice. Why would TT do such a thing? I sent her an e-mail last night but I haven't got a reply. I don't like Twitter. I have an account and I will try to find her. BC is a misterious Shiley. And you know it well. Thank you and have a nice day. I am very much sad because TT helped me a lot with my fibromyalgia and only one who has this terrible thing can say how good is having a friend on BC supporting you.
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It got its ups and downs.
I don't have real answers just a guesstimate based on how long I've known her. -
Join twitter and follow her here: twitter.com/timethief
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The new "tool button" above squeeze the "group button" as well as "other button". In which by surprise has me always clicked on "groups button", and has me by accident exploring the whole hours on tons of groups available on BC.
After the storm, earthquake and watsoever, this thread explained why TT has commented on my other thread without avatar. Now everyone famous like Anok, TT, and OneMuslim are all gone. Who's next?
*This account is currently pending approval.*-
Really? I found the new tools thanks to Shiley and I will not use any of them.
My country had a militar dictatorship and any kind of banning gives me the creeps. And I'm not totally glad with the explanation of TonnyB. TT is very much serious and it's hard to believe. She has told me that she usually has problems with the administration of BC because of her posts. It's surrealist because one person is punished because she is doing a great work here on BC. I'm really disappointed.
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Noriega Tony is the owner of BC and I agree that anyone who goes on a specific section of his site and UNNECESSARILY votes everything down and makes comments that are uncalled for under them should be suspended.
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Suspended doesn't means she can't make a comeback. Everybody knows BC is open for everybody, when they reject you once, you still can re-apply for tons of times (till you tired). IMO, BC is friendly enough as always, no lifetime penalty, everybody can re-apply, re-re-apply and so on till the end of the world.
Okay, the new tools section maybe sucks because almost all tools are common for common bloggers, yet not for the new/beginners (new children born everyday). Also, it give you bloggers a hidden opportunity, "Submit a new Tool". You can up promotion your quality tool there eg: similar to meals of the day widget.
Also, maybe BC silently make money on that "Opportunities" section by recruiting downlines/commission for signup. But come on, blogging is not just about give, it must meet the win-win situation to survive.
While you need BC, BC is also need you @ while BC need you, you also need BC. Just act wisely & see things from the brighter side.
One though of mine: (Gossip? Rumors?)
The tools section and TT blogging niche is quite similar, do BC actually got the idea of "tools" just after read it from TT blog (onecoolsite?) -
@nogueira: Comparing government censorship to a business decision by a private owner of a private business won't work.
@SoftwareGal: I have also seen BC give second chances, provided the members wanted one.
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I must agree with you LolitaV.
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wrong spot, see below
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@TonyB .. However, recently, she went into the new tools section and started rating every tool on the tools section and instead of being helpful and a value to the community and the site she gave every tool she reviewed a 1 and wrote things like "no thank you", or I dont have this on my blog and never plan too. She has engaged in this type of attack behavior on new services that were launched by BC on almost ever occasion and sets a tone of negativity and nastiness that does nothing more than harm the community.
I vaguely recall anyone who complained about poor ratings received on their blogs in their profile, that the person was ever banned - just the rating ended up being removed.
Perhaps instead of rating these tools, like
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.. use this-never used this-recommend this-never recommend this-indifferent-
I must agree with you.
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[I vaguely recall anyone who complained about poor ratings received on their blogs in their profile, that the person was ever banned - just the rating ended up being removed.]
You know, I remember this happening too. I'm not sure if that's the official BC response, but that's what I've always witnessed. -
I can recall that too, when those blank faced guests came by and rated my blog 0 dropping my score drastically....they never got banned, but only the rating was removed.
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she went into the new tools section and started rating every tool on the tools section and instead of being helpful and a value to the community and the site she gave every tool she reviewed a 1 and wrote things like "no thank you", or I dont have this on my blog and never plan too.
Do you only want to have good ratings? Where would hotels.com or tripadvisor.com be if they only allowed good ratings?
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hudsal. what if a user went to tripadvisor and rated every hotel on the site at one star on the sole basis they had never planned to visit that city or hotel. who would this benefit?
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thegoodknife
I see the analogy, but I don't see the problem. The problem arises only when there is only one review, which is negative. Over time, I assume there will be a large number of positive reviews that will defuse the one negative review. That said, as the owner of BC you have the sovereign right to reject or approve any review in any case. -
awwww there is my favorite asshole. how i missed you, you asshole
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you would have to be a total control freak to do something like that! ridiculous!
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I'm very much confusing and I don't want to create a "negative" enviroment with my discussion. But you seem to be right.
But what TonyB said makes sense too. I will leave now because I
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WOW, I am in utter shock that TT was banned. I'm knew to this site, only about a month or so, but thus far everything I've read from TT has been extremely informative. She helped me find my way around, what was acceptable and what was not, and all about click fraud. I found her to be such an asset.
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i'll assume it's the satan inhabiting you speaking.
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My experience with TT was usually immediate attack mode and then she'd chill out and come up with some useful advice - at least it was better than the blase responses of late. I don't like to see anyone get banned but I don't think blatant disrespect is warranted either - I don't go into anything i'm not interested in - so if I don't care about the blogging tools, I wouldn't even go rate them.
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LOL I think we all seem to be a bit irritated lately - discussions that don't really go anywhere, members getting banned, constant spam in shoutboxes - must be a universal PMS thing or something LOL
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I am absolutely elated by these revelations. I don't have to worry about being told not to post in a certain thread, or being linked with rules that were not broken. And then getting a shout apologizing only for said person to continue with the actions that were apologized for.
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Well, for all it's worth, TT is not the only one annoyed by people who can't be bothered to put their threads where they belong. The filters aren't worth much if people won't use them properly. -
Im not talking about putting threads in the wrong categories.
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It's a difficult situation. Try to understand that people are shocked.
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only people without a brain
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If I only had a brain... do dee do dee doot!
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And I quote directly from my email due to rising irritation.
Thimethief states "I did NOT rate all the tools. I began to rate a few and then posted this into the TOOLS TOOLS TOOLS thread :
timethief
2 days ago
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I don't get what this is all about. Obviously you do know what purposes this Tools section and these reviews and ratings are intended to serve, so please share that information with us.
Please delete all of the ratings and reviews I submitted. If I have any feedback for third party app providers I will make it directly to them.
www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/tools-tools-tools#comment_1152171
Howewer, since when did saying "she gave every tool she reviewed a 1 and wrote things like "no thank you", or I dont have this on my blog and never plan to". And why did they remove all the reviews I did like I asked them to except for one? "
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As stated from my email. I didn't say it.
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I'm just wondering what the point of carrying this on is. On balance, I think Timethief's value to this community far outweighed her occasional attacks on members and/or the administration, but it's not my call to make. And it's not up for a popular vote, either. I'm really unclear on why we have two active threads with dozens of participants discussing something that is between TT and the BC admins.
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I don't know why there are two discussions. One looked like someone searched it and stated they wanted to meet TT. The OP of this one I can't speak for.
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I wasn't questioning the OP so much as the avid participation.
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I have just received a reply from TT of an e-mail I sent her yesterday.
She told me she asked BC Adm to delete her hatings.
“Please delete all of the ratings and reviews I submitted. ” I only reviewed 4/35 tools, she wrote in the message.
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confirmed - her twitter says she only reviewed 4/35 tools. I've enjoyed BC but lately - well I'm just glad I've got the forum set up on my blog so if this place goes down the tubes, I have somewhere else to chat.... I'm disheartened...
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Forgiveness is important! I hope that this can get worked out between the admins and tt.. I miss seeing her around here.
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I agree.
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Articulates you write something very important: forgiveness.
Banning TT is really a negative propaganda to BC because many of members here will write or have already writen about it. It seems they have been persecuting TT for a long time. It can't be true but many members of BC are considering this terrible idea.
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sjtavo, thanks so much for writing that comment. I was afraid some fellows here would think I was creating that only to protect my best friend here. Bravo! You have courage. I will still chat with TT and exchange e-mails. Now both of us could be ban two! (fun) If would happento us you, TT and I could create another community for bloggers. (fun)
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LOL we'll just chat on the forum I started on my blog to avoid stuff just like this!!
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Holly, you are terrible! hahaha
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I'll tell you what's happening.
BlogCatalog ...
is DYING.
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That was too funny!
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Friday13 I must not agree with you. Your message is funny but very much agressive. It's the last thing we need here.
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I think humor is the first thing we need here
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lol! I don't think BC is dying... but I do think that getting suspended is becoming the new 'in' thing
Pushing the envelope, being the straw that broke the camel's back, the rebel without a cause!
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Honestly Friday...
You are such a blogger... full of drama! 
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I think he's got a point - all we've been doing for days now is complaining about BC and the stringent rules and people leaving and lack of good discussions..... but if they ban all of us, who will be left? the odd-ball members whose "groups" are really call-girl links?
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Humor is very different from being agressive. But it's your choice not mine. I don't want to complicate things there are still very much stranger. But I must confess I like it the picture.
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At least there is a hot topic now here on BC.
Errr.. Are they actually 'acting following the script' to make BC hot again after few days of boring flow?
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Thank you but I would prefer another hot topic.
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@nogueira
Another hot topic? Isn't one is every mall enough? lol
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It seems BC is trying to hide this discussion from the first page but they are failing because people are posting comments here. What a day! I agree with sjtavo. If BC Adm would ban all of us who are not afraid to put our faces in discussions that community could be more boring that has become.
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lol....
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Ok. My mistake. Forgive me.
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Well, BC is a little bit slow, no new threads, better there are new threads, but most of them aren't interesting, and people simply bail out, or don't even come here :S They banned the members that putted some speed on bc...-
anthony9910, You are totally RIGHT!
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i'm a new here, but I can see that this place was better than it is now :S I really like BC, and meet some great people here, but now, BC is kinda dead :S
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I'm done. I can get anymore. It's enough and we didn't have a good explanation about TT case specially after she told me and sjtavo. I'm tired out and I start to be VERY MUCH ANGRY with the last facts. I can't do anything to change but at least we have a terrible lesson how things work on BC. I'm considering leaving BC if the banning continues. I can't stand another dictatorship after more than 20 years under military government. Thanks all people who have the courage to express their opinions here.
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@dbowles1017
Those ninja can be sneaky.
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I'm done. I can get anymore. It's enough and we didn't have a good explanation about TT case specially after she told me and sjtavo. I'm tired out and I start to be VERY MUCH ANGRY with the last facts. I can't do anything to change but at least we have a terrible lesson how things work on BC. I'm considering leaving BC if the banning continues. I can't stand another dictatorship after more than 20 years under military government. Thanks all people who have the courage to express their opinions here.
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In a nutshell:
Someone was over zealous, got on peoples nerves a lot and then finally admin had enough.
Other people have decided to continue to flog a dead horse repeatedly for some bizarre reason that has nothing to do with blogging or forging blog connections, hopefully they will shuffle off soon
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crpitt, find something useful to do girl. I'm in pain because of my fibromyalgia and I need to rest. What is the problem with you? You can say wherever you want to but IT IS NOT THE END. Only a fool thinks that way. I don't care. Leave here your angry if it gets you some relieve.
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Fibromyalgia is not an excuse for ignorance and ridiculous statements.
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What about being an ignorant and or ridiculous person?
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Do you work for BC in order to inflame discussions with your offensive comments? So, you think I will be the next to be banned. Is it a wisht of a bad and sick woman or do you really get paid to post your silly comments here? If they banned me I will feel very much valued as a blogger.
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It is a 100% fictional fact that I am the oldest and most active member of BC, having had a previous three year non existent relationship with TonyB I have gained some privileges, mainly coffee and doughnuts. For those treats, I get to poke idiots all day for fun and thrills.
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dbowles1017, I don't care for what you said. Sorry, but you just like to act like a bad boy and you are too old for it. I'm not your mama or your psychologist. By the way, you should consider start a therapy. Peter Pan's Syndrome is out today.
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Im 17 years old. My avatar is from prom.
But thank you for calling me a bad boy. I hear that they get all the women
Will you pay for my therapy? I dont really have any money.
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if They banned the spammers they would be intelligent...
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dbowles1017, send me the bill. hhahahahahaha You jokes are not funny anymore. Try to find new ones.
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I'm not joking.
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Haha! Or,
What does the gay horse eat?
"Heeeeeyyy"
Note- The contents of this joke are not necessarily the views of the one who posted it. Nor are they supported by Blog Catalog. It is merely the presentation of facts. Meant for entertainment purposes only.
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So because you haven't got a clue, misinterpret peoples comments and then blame it on fibro 'brain fog', I am the angry one?
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At least your just angry, I'm a rude, uneducated, ignorant, right wing extremist American who is the sole reason (along with trailofpen) Europeans hate America - I almost think she's fond of you! -
She said that to you? It almost makes me like you and that would prove her wrong.
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Over the course of a few comments yes, I'm cool if you just continue to tolerate me, there's a lot less pressure for me to live up to that way. I would hate to have all the pressure that comes with being an American who isn't hated by all Europeans.
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Europe sucks
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Ha! I am sure I can mange that.
Yeah it does.
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A dictatorship is a form of government in which the governed have no choice. BlogCatalog (sorry Tony, but, you know) ain't anything like as powerful as a country. And it is V O L U N T A R Y.
There is no constitution. You have no rights. It isn't a charity. You have no entitlement.
BC is a FOR PROFIT company and it's leadership has to make decisions based on their best estimation for the sustained health of that company.
I'm not saying I would have banned timethief. But I don't know everything about the situation either.
I DO know that timethief felt personally attacked by one (or more) of the BC staff, and it is obvious that the BC leadership (of a privately help for profit company, I again remind you, not a Junta over a third world city state) felt some threat to the company's health in continuing that relationship.
BC is not a democracy. It's also not a dictatorship. It's an online venue provided to allow interactive participation in a FREE membership with other members.-
I must reply because his comment is for me. I'm not dumble. I used "democracy" and "dictatorship" as a methafor and you don't have to be rude DaneMorgan. And I'm not stupid and I know BC is VOLUNTARY.
I'm a donator and I don't like the way you wrote you comment which is obviously direct to me. When I think BC business isn't not good anymore for my purposes I will leave or you and BC Adm ban me.
But many thing are wrong here. Do you want a example? crpitt has been doing worse things than TT but she seems to have immunity on BC. She can insulted everyone here with her sick anger and BC Adm does nothing about it. Are different rules for distinct people? And Brazil isn't anymore a Third World country anymore. I will sent some links about it in order to inform you better. Even New York Times wrote about it.
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You are next on my list.........................
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Brazil? Is that still a country?
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@nogueira: There is nothing in Dane's language that can be construed as rude. Nothing.
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Rude? Ummmm.... I don't even know how to think about responding to that.
Yes, this post was directed to you. You are the OP and this post was in a top tier... I would expect most people to realize that meant I was responding to you. Had I been responding to some one else I would have nested the comment, or at the least included an @ to the person i was addressing.
That said, however, my response was written as much for those readers who need just a little nudge to think through things like this to see that the conclusions drawn are drawn from a faulty premise. So while I did indeed write TO you I did not so much write FOR you, because I have begun to doubt the value in that. This post follows much the same purpose.
Look. The first time I encounter you, you are jumping all over me for suppressing your rights because I'm talking about offering people who subscribe to my blog dofollow links and making non subscribers links nofollow. And somehow you construe that into an attempt by me to suppress your rights here at BC, and I'm not even on staff.
Now you're in here talking about dictatorships and democracies again. It *seems* to be a theme with you. It's also a tiresome theme. It's a theme used over and over by people who realize that such accusations are easier than doing some thinking and due diligence and formulating a real and genuine argument for their case. You think timethief should not have been banned? Fine State your case, make your argument and leave the hyperbole at the door.
And it isn't a metaphor because it doesn't equate.
What boss? I quit my job. I don't have a boss at the moment. Of course I Tony is thinking of hiring someone, I think I would make an excellent addition to the team (hows that for shameless self promotion?).
Since I had no idea you were Brasillian I suppose there will have to be some other reason for your perception of my rudeness. Though I suppose a language barrier could have something to do with it. But I don't have any general all encompassing rule about being rude to Brasillian women, or any other nationalities of women for that matter.
I don't recall that I ever stated that Brasil was a third world country. Lets stick with being mad at me for the things I DID say before we trot out the things I didn't say, okay?
And, once again, for the record, I don't have any powers here at BC. I can't ban you. I can't moderate you. I have only the same power any other member has. I can respond to you or not. You really should take it as something of a compliment that I chose to respond. Do you have any idea how often I just shake my head and close the thread. -
I have noguiera blocked, so I don't know exactly what she said here, but before anyone engages further you should be aware that she is serially offended by different BC members, leading to tedious shoutbox exchanges about how badly she's been treated. She even takes printouts of our comments to her therapist to get ratification that we're being mean to her. It might be worthwhile to back away slowly and let it go.
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Your an oracle, Tiffany... My shoutbox has been hit. And it would seem that I'm now, officially, a misogynist.
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There is absolutely no doubt that Timethief contributed a lot of good to this community--no doubt at all about that. When I first started my blog and knew nothing about blogging, she helped me enormously. She was my first friend on the forum.
I know she has rubbed people the wrong way--but many people do. I have seen people do FAR WORSE on this forum that give a one star rating. Perhaps that was the final straw for the administrators but I do think that this action was quite biased. I have no doubt at all that if another person gave poor ratings to the tools, they would not have been banned. I honestly believe that people have been gunning for TT for a while now.
I think it would be a real courtesy of the administrators to allow her to be able to retrieve all the reviews she received for her blogs. She had no warning that this happened and she WAS a very valuable and helpful member to many people. She also started interesting discussions and made other discussions better.
Just my .02--not that it means a hot damn anyway.-
I must agree with you.
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See, that's just it.
98% of everything in this thread is speculation conjecture and hyperbole.
The only people who currently KNOW the WHOLE story are the BC staff and timethief. This is their disagreement.
As I said earlier I wouldn't say that I would have banned her, but I can only base that on MY interactions with her, which we no doubt limited in respect to many others and definitely to those of the BC staff.
I LIKE timethief.
I had a positive relationship with her and we chatted about things we were both interested in. I know she also liked to talk about other, more controversial things as well, but since those did not interest me (anymore) I was not a participant in them.
So I, just like everyone else in this thread, have a less complete piece of the picture than timethief and the BC admin have.
It is their business to run and they have to make the decisions they think are right for this company.
I'll tell you one thing though. If I owned and operated this forum, this thread would have been locked hours ago.
Tony and co are one hell of a LOT more tolerant and accepting than I am when it comes to this stuff, and that might not be the best thing for their business, but it's how they choose to run it.
It also points to just how seriously they take things like this. Rose, the last person I remember being banned from here did a PILE of damage before they finally booted her. That isn't to say that I think timethief did any damage, it's just to say that BC does not do this kind of thing lightly. -
Dane, it's a difficult thing balance tolerance with moderation. Either way someone is always going to be mad at us.
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Really, Daniel, it should be deleted. It's hard to see what value keeping it around for people to read and get stirred up over has, and you know it won't be five minutes before some fool starts a new thread called "Since I Can't Respond in the 'What's Happening..." thread..."
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I'm going to lock it for now and let the discussion admins decide whether or not to delete it.
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@Dane,
I alluded to what you are saying also:
"Perhaps that was the final straw for the administrators"
I don't really know--but based on what I have witnessed *on the forum* and not behind the scene, the decision to outright ban her seemed quite biased.
And of course, this is only my opinion--and hopefully here at BC, I am still entitled to that?
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crpitt,are you coming to Brazil to kill me? hahahahahaha
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/sighs
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TT is informative(:long review opinion) whenever she put comment in the threads she has participated in,but for me personally,one time her comment made me really ignore and leave BC if its not for NF to encourage me to stay.BC is a little boring now anyway,so i hardly come and join some threads anymore.-
noodlemie, I must agree with you and I will leave BC.
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It is very easy to have a comment deleted on blogcatalog or to have a thread removed...Most often it is due to a poor choice of words or improper framing of one's opinions...
It is quite difficult to have your account deleted from blogcatalog as the management and owners of blogcatalog are compassionate people who issue numerous warnings and give people many chances to correct their behaviour...Only those who continue to ignore their warnings and chronically exhibit bad behaviour that is detrimental to the community are asked to leave...
Personally I bear no malice toward timethief and I understand that those people who were friends with her are saddened...
At the end of the day however timethief has been responsible for hundreds of people leaving blogcatalog many of whom I enjoyed engaging in debate with...
Hopefully this ban will be permanent and she will not be able to slide in under a psuedonym to disrupt the community again with her trollish agenda and behavior...-
What happened to timethief? I missed so much!
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If someone has many troubles here is MadamX.
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If someone has many troubles here is MadamX.
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at least she does not live in a crappy country like Brazil
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CA- your statement is why everyone hates (is jealous of) America
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DaneMorgan, you are rude and it's my opinion. You and MadamX are such a duo. You both should work together. And thanks God you don't
You don't own that forum. You have a special talent to be
authoritarian. And you just got what you want to: I will leave
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What did Dane say that was rude?
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nogueira you are quite the match maker
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Dane, for once--and it really, truly is the only time ever--I agree with Noguiera.
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Maybe you are right. I could be a match maker...Thanks for such a good idea.
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I thought you were leaving...
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She hasn't matched you yet
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I think he would be perfect with AchEmpire...
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Ohhhh nice
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It's a match made in blogging heaven
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Don't talk to my woman like!
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So she's not "Brazil Intelligent", but really who is?
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lol. Im not brazil intellgernt
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calm down you guys.
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Gosh I think I have been rather pleasant.
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@TGK
haha. That works perfect with the avatar
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I honestly don't have anything to contribute one way or the other on the TT situation because I wasn't there and do not know what happened. What I will say is that I am shocked at the clique mentality that I have seen here. I don't agree or disagree with anyone in particular on this thread. However, it seems that one individual is not allowed to express his or her viewpoint if it goes against what the "clique" believes. This is actually very interesting to witness a group of people band together on an internet forum and bully those that are not part of their exclusive group. I'm not sure if this means that they were not part of a clique in high school and feel the need to recapture those moments here. Actually, I feel bad for Admin having to deal with these infantile issues and cliques. Here I thought this was a place for individuals to share ideas. I'm pretty sure that is what Admin envisioned this place to be for and yet, if you are not in the "cool" crew, forget about having your ideas validated by your peers. Very interesting...
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I'm guessing part of TT's problem was she seemed to want to run BC. One time after I responded to something she wrote, I told her she sounded like she was in charge of the site and she got really offended, I suspect because she thought I was calling her out. I think spirited debate is what I want out of the discussions but TT had a way of acting like she was the mother of all bloggers and the rest of us should just sit back and let her run things. My guess is her controlling behavior just got to be a little too much for the site admin and they thought she should be freed to go and help run something else. Her technical critiques frequently brought down the overall level of discussion and tended to be a bit overbearing. I'm guessing her absence will be a net plus as we manage to persevere without her help. -
BC will not die, i will stick around and annoy the shit out of eery new member. i shall make it my duty to post redundent sex threads. YE shall stay in BC and be annoyed by me only to be conforted by the nun's graces
members have left before only to be replaced. I am sure there was another Lolita around before me and there will b another after me. si here it goes.
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