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What's the difference between religion and science?
Posted by footiam • 5/08/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: religion, science
What are your views on religion and science?
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there is complete science in hindu religion and veda.Unfortunately many failed to understand. -
Religion are trying to argue what don't need to be argued at all, science are trying to prove what can't be proved at all.-
Yes! Yes! Yes! -
Not true, science is all about trying to prove hypothesis. Newton's Law has been proved, Einstein's relativity is a refinement for which Newton's Law is a subcase. -
@elitethinker: No. Science is not rational and never can be because of the "Fallacy of Induction," (look up, David Hume) the fallacy of assuming that your laboratory is a microcosm of the universe and that arbitrary change doesn't happen. Religion is a different kind of knowledge and thought altogether, and to assume that, because it does not conform to the path that you have decided upon ON FAITH, it is therefore irrational is monstorously arrogant.
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Religion is Irrational Belief.
Science is Rational Hypothesis. -
Both are just different ways of trying to understand the world. -
Science is religion.-
Not at all except for mystic fake scientists. Now it doesn't prevent some great scientists did inspire from some mystics, that doesn't mean they are believers in those mysticism, it's just like painting a source of imagination.
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They represent two entirely diiferent misinterpretations of the world.
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interpretations yes but why misinterpretations at least always for science ?
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Who I wonder, does the intepretion?
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Science says we don't have all the answers and we need to continue questioning.
Religion says we already have all the answers and we need to stop questioning.-
I agree but would add as for some "scientists" only in theory sometimes they behave like religious people
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Religion tries to convince you by playing with your fears.
Science tries to convince you by playing with your ignorance.-
Well as for fears it's also Politics, but since Religion is mostly a political tool in their hand
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With religion, you have to accept things on faith alone. With science, you can't accept anything on faith but instead need solid evidence.-
"solid" evidence doesn't always exist in Science. Dark Matter, Super String Theory are no solid evidence, it's just RATIONAL hypothesis that experiments could PROVE OR DISPROVE.
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Actually, you accept on faith that your laboratory is like every other point in the universe, and that the universe is not arbitrary, both assumptions that we have no cause to make save folk wisdom.
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Western religions are mostly based on faith. Eastern religions tend to put more emphasis on practice and awareness.And even science to a certain extent is based on faith: faith in the scientific method.
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It;s easier to have faith. You don't have to think.
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Not faith or rather Rational Hypothesis, that is provable by experiments even if for some, experiments are not yet feasible because it waits for some advances in technologies.
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It's also easier to doubt everything as said Poincaré see below what great scientist he was.
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@footiam: Not true. Being a Christian and understanding God's extremely complex message (may I remind you it is 1300 pages long and packed with content and ABSOLUTELY NO SUMMARIES) requires a tremendous level of thought.
@elitethinker: There is actually such a thing as doubting faith; it's not neccesarilly a bad thing. In particular, the apostle Paul has a substantial discussion of doubt in the epistle to the Romans. St. Augustine also practiced doubting faith many times in Confessions. I'd even go so far as to say that a doubting faith (if you can pull it off, which not everyone can) may even be the best faith in that it progresses the fastest and creates the strongest relationship with God.
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The science community is more organized and productive and despite contrary opinion, does much more work with much less funding.-
Science sounds like the better one here!
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The difference between philosophy and science would have been a better question.-
And what is philosophy science?
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It's called Epistemology alas not teached at school whereas it is the essence of science so read Science and Hypothesis from Henri Poincaré now recognized as the real father of Relativity Theory even before Enstein and Grandfather of Chaos Theory (though he would have never given such a bad name, real name is non-linear dynamics).
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First philosophy is the science of sciences
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Science is meaningless without philosophy to guide and interpret it unlike most scientists like to think....and about the main question of religion....well, it just doesn't qualify to the comparison
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Both are Human concepts that are bound by our current perception of reality. -
Science shows its work, religion just makes claims. There's more to it, but that's an essential difference. -
Religion asks us to believe without proof, arguing that where there is lack of evidence faith comes in.-
That seems a lot to ask!
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Its a lot to ask of rational beings
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People always ask for more.
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I need to cross the river. Religion says pray for the waters to part. Science says try putting a log in the water and paddling across.-
Parable of the talents, Matthew 24: 16, also known as the "STOP PRAYING AND GET TO WORK" parable. Jesus makes it clear time and time again that christians are not people who sit around asking for things all day. This is in fact a sin, called Tempting God, and when Isreal did it at Manassah, Moses scolded them.
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Not all religions are faith-based. Buddhism, for example.
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Science and religion only become at odds or similar to each other if you force science to be a religion or religion to be science. Really, what science talks about (how the universe works) is something so wildly different from what religion talks about (your place in the universe) that many great men throughout history, including Saint Augustine, Sir Francis Bacon, Issac Newton, and Einstein, (first 3 christian, Einstein devout Deist) have held both dear to their hearts. There is no contradiction in believing that part of God's blessing to Adam & Eve was making his universe predictable and accessable so they could tinker with it and thus secure "dominion over the birds of the air and the fish of the sea." (Genesis) Religion is really more similar to literature or literary philosophy then science.
Further, science is also based on a certain degree of faith because of a basic logical fallacy called "The Fallacy of Induction." Basically, the assumption that the universe never arbitrarilly changes. In essence, you say God is not working because you assume God is not working. -
If you are sipping from a Petri dish full of sperm in a church you are thrown out by the deaf verger and the vicar's wife but if you do the exact same thing under laboratory conditions you can claim you are conducting an experiment in flavoured sperm for the fussy IVF market.
That's why science is the new religion. -
Interesting, how most people nowadays perceive religion as containing certainties. Most great religious figures have been people tortured by doubt. Even Jesus on the Cross cried out:" Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me?" And Dostoyevsky: "I do not believe as a child believes, but my Hosannah has come through a great furnace of doubt."
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Also, strictly speaking Christianity is NOT supposed to be built on faith, but on "love, faith and hope with love being the most important." -Paul the Apostle. You are supposed to accept the kingdom of heaven as a little child, but you're also supposed to take up your cross and struggle to understand exactly what the kingdom of heaven is.
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religion is something that we believe, respect, follow and sometimes preach to others while science is the study of artifacts.They can`t never have the same meaning simply because they are different.Though religion and science have different kinds, still, they have their own explanations at their own sides.-
A religion cannot be scientific then!
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