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Where have our brave men gone?
Posted by Jeunelle • 5/13/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Tags: children, daughters, fathers, future, mercy killings. incest, planet.
Where the heck are they?
I knew my Father to be brave but my Uncles were not.
What has happened to men in general?
A Father who beats his Daughter to death in a honor killing.
A Father who holds his Daughter hostage for many years and rapes her and Fathers children with her.
What has become of our men?
If we are to see any hope for this planet, we women better arm ourselves
and do something about it quick or all is lost. I wonder how you feel about it.
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Sometimes, stupidity does the work of bravery.-
Explain Ekin941 because I know you to be a caring and loving father from what I've seen.
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I am. But what you are referring to has nothing to do with bravery.
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And yet it does have much to do with bravery and heroes.
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Not all heroes are brave.
Necessity does the work of bravery as well.
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I remember my Father showing me the many stars in the sky
and he knew them all by heart and made me memorize them.
We sat under a big rock at night and he taught them to me.
I still know and remember them all.
What happened to our paternal protective and loving fathers?
Where have they gone? I am sure some are still around
but we seem to be lacking a huge amount of loving fathers.-
And that is a very nice story. There are still good fathers out there and a few bad ones.
The difference is that the good ones are not newsworthy. Pity.
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There have, and always be, good and evil men in the world.
We just hear more about the evil ones is all.
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Wow are you sure because in my 38 years on this planet, I have not heard of too many good fathers. Maybe I am missing something but my mother hasn't either and neither has my Grandmother or God Mother. Something seems to be up here.
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Something about the circles you travel in, perhaps? -
You know nothing about my circles or me so back up with that statement.
I don't attack you with where you have been in your past and I don't need to hear you bring this crap here. For a Catholic you seem too judgemental for my taste.
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Well I had to beat it out of my husband...but that paternal side did come back after a while -
Something about the thought of you "arming yourself" makes me very uncomfortable.
Take baby steps, start with a finger.-
I just had teh best mental picture of Juenelle poking you in the eye!
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Anok I love you. You are a riot.
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She probably would if she got that joke
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Heh who says I didn't get the joke?
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Ninjas rule!
/ now I run away...
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I think that's because (nicely put) A lot of women don't give men a chance to be a father. So many women procreate and run or procreate too much and have no idea who the baby daddy is.-
You might have a point there momscrazylife. lmao.
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If a woman gets pregnant without knowing the father/sperm donor, how's she supposed to know she should keep him around long enough to "let" him be a father? He could be Ted Bundy's reincarnation for all she knows. If a guy has to be "allowed" to be a father before he will act like a real father or a real man, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIM. You don't wait for permission to do what's right, you just DO IT.
That is exactly part of what is wrong with men today. (Women too, I suppose, but the original question was about men.) No initiative to do what's right, then when they get called on their crap, oh, it's all women's fault. Uh... no.
I knew my little girl's dad for over a year before I got pregnant with her. I gave him every chance in the world, but he thought he'd play around and act like a jerk until she was almost two years old. The only reason he is still in our lives now is that I feared legal consequences if I had shut him out entirely. Fortunately for both of us he is at least pretending to have gotten his head out of his rear end now. But a lot of guys don't. And it's always some excuse, it's never, "I'm choosing to be a jerk because I am a grown man and make my own choices." You NEVER hear that, even though it's true.
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I dunno, my husband is an amazing father/mother. He's the Mom in the house.
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My Mom has 3 daughters from different fathers and the last one would smash the dishes on the wall as showing that he washed the dishes. He was my pride and joy coming home to.
Yet who am I to complain since the dishes were done.
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I basically raise myself and my two sisters.
I had no help from anybody and I made sure they were protected.
I worked summer and winter jobs full time during school hours and gave my whole check to my mother to by milk and food for them. While all my friends were going to dances and having a ball I was busy at work trying to put food on the table. My mother would cry to see how she had no help and was abandoned by the men who promised her the world and I learn to not trust anybody because of it. Spanning back to generations of women left unhappy and unsatisfied.
I still don't trust anybody and have alway fought my own battles and won.
Where was my father this whole time or my sisters fathers?
Who the heck knows or cares. Out of sight out of mind.
I know of a lot of women who wouldn't dare talk about it and continue to live unhappy and unsatisfied.
I am tired of seeing women always giving and not being satisfied themselves with their relationships. They keep giving and others keep taking and where is their happiness?
Very few women are truly satisfied on this planet or should I go as far as saying none are?
Sometimes I get mad with women too because I sometimes feel they don't cry out enough
and don't try to have their say enough
and remain unresponsive and a lack of initiative or will to live.-
You trust me, don't you?
See, it made you a strong and independent woman (I'm assuming) so you have come a long way.
There are a lot of women out there that learned not to trust men. Kinda spoils it for the guys like me that are actually decent. -
Yeah whatever Ekim
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I was about to be whopped many times after school by other kids
but did I let them whopp me? Hell no. I had them running for cover.
I had some kid spit on my youngest sister and I waited for that punk like a venegence after school. I didn't let anybody get the best of me of my family.
Where are the brave women who I grew up with too .
Where are you, I want to see you. My Great aunt boiling a pot full of hot _iss to throw on my drunken Uncle who only came home to wreak the house or beat her.
Those were my role models. Survivors, not the punk whimps we have now.-
Well, the important thing is that you are not still bitter.
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Then I hear stories of fathers in the Middle East who clearly get away with murdering their daughters
via Honor killings. How does a man regain his honor by taking a life?
What God would condone that bloody crime?
This is no God but a Beast and I would not worship it.
Stamping on your daughters throat until she is dead seems like a real black
and grim place for the holy spirit to dwell.
Their women always dressed in black and always in mourning.
What kind of life is that for any woman?
What you are witnessing is nothing more than the captivity of the Holy Spirit.-
I'm thinking that you could do this thread all by yourself.
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Huh?
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I'm refering to the latest news about a 17 years old girl that was murdered by her father and 3 brothers for simply speaking to a british soldier.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/27/iraq.military1?gusrc=rss&feed=networkf...
Her loving father said he should of killed her at birth. He also had his 3 sons stamp on her throat until she was dead. Not to mention the other evil attacks she suffered before her death.
Yes this kind of thing happens across this planet. In China women are still not considered good for a prospering family. Sons are still considered more valuable and more wanted. Women are still sold into sexual slavery and their fathers and brothers are the ones who rape them and pay for these pleasures. Also we hear of the story of a father who rapes his daugther and keeps her prisoner in a windowless cell along with her children that he fathered. One was thrown into a incenerator after stillbirth. He still says he is not a monster. -
Where I live a woman and her two kids were murdered by husband just yesterday. But that doesn't mean that there are no good fathers left.
Geesh, I was morbidly abused by my biological mother for 6 years and she even stopped my heart twice. Does that mean that there are no good mothers?
No, I got adopted by one.
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This is true. I have to say, that I too was abused by my bio mother until I was adopted.
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See, there's two against one. Looks like we need to point fingers at mothers as well juenelle.
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I am not saying that there are no good fathers left I am just saying that I have never seen or know any in my 38 years on this planet and neither has my mother, Grandmother or God Mother.
I am sure there are people out there that have known some good fathers
but I haven't and a few of my friends haven't either.-
Well, then you're not looking. You did say that you DON'T trust anyone. Would you know a good father if you saw him? Probably not.
Now, lets take a second to talk about that woman that drowned her 3 kids in the bath tub because of PPD. Or, the woman that locked her kids in the car and pushed it into a lake because her boyfriend said he didn't want kids. Or any of the numerous other women that have intentionally killed their kids. -
Excuse me Ekim but how do you know what the heck I was looking for?
You know nothing about me until I tell you what I want you to know
so back the hell up with that statement. You know nothing about me or my heart.
There is something that happens to women chemically that makes them want to kill their kids and later through science that can be corrected with medication and the correct dosages.
Men are different and it always has to do with their honor or standing.
What the male doesn't understand is that even though his honor may be temporarily restored, he is doing so by destroying the honor of someone else.
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So, if a woman kills her kids there's a scientific reason for it that can be corrected with medication. If a man kills his kids, he's crazy. Nice.
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Again you misinterrupted what I said.
But you know what, If you believe that is what I meant then yeah I meant that. -
Are you actually reading these letters that string together to form words. Crap, juenelle, it's right there in print. And yet, amazingly you still attempt to twist my words.
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Ekim I still wonder what your talking about.
The fact is this planet is holding on by a thread and your mother ship can't save all of you.
I wish I cared enough to cry for all of you when I transcend but the fact is I will not. -
That explains everything.
Thanks.
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Well, I wish I can introduce you to my husband.
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Well ekim941 you need to start your own discussion because this discussion is about fathers and women who are not satisfied.
YOU DIG???? lmao
Personally I don't know how you could raise a child and watch it grow up and then you have the balls to stomp on her throat until she is dead. No one came to her defense. This is to me an unforgivable act.-
Sounds good to me. You can do this discussion all on your own.
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That's a shame. Typical to find a man leave as soon as the kitchen gets too hot.
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this is a prime example of your problem.
Tell me to leave and then criticize me for doing so.
When you see this type of behavior up close does it make you realize anything about yourself? -
awww snap!!
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No but it should make you realize something about yourself.
Are you here to help or are you hear to criticize? Right now I'm not so sure which one you are. -
@Kdawg - I just peed a little
@Jeunelle - I can only help if I am allowed to have a rational conversation. A rational conversation requires two rational people.
Yes, I feel bad for your experiences and would love to talk to you about possibly helping your perspective on the world we live in. -
Just out of bizarre curiosity, what should it make "ME" realize about myself?
The fact that you tell me to leave, I comply, and you criticize.
Yes I realize that "You" should be careful what you wish for and "I" should not do what you ask. -
It was originally going to be the "Men on Film" guys from In Living Color, but I settled for that.
Jeunelle - how exactly can Ekim941 help? Is he to help you arm yourself? What action is it exactly that you're calling men that are "here to help" to do? -
ekim you are too late. I am in love with the horse.
Kdawg68 has a big one and I am going to ride.
You can watch as long as you promise to be quiet. lmao -
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lol in case that was missed too
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Well, Kdawg, you get the prize. Congrats, Bro.
Warning, she will eat your young and blame it on science. -
Just so everyone is up to speed, right momscrazylife? -
Right..you know...a little help for our friends
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Well, she's certainly got powers of intuition.... I mean how else could she have been right about...well....umm....you know!
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Kdawg68 I knew it all along.
Unfortunately for you Ekim I don't need you to tell me how the world is.
I think it's pretty clear.
Ekim941 you are just jealous and besides who the hell cares what anybody thinks. IRRELEVANT.
I'm taking Kdawg68 to the Kentucky Derby. yeeeaaaahhhh -
IDK, maybe the horse avatar gave it away.
Name one dude (Besides me) that we say he has a small one of them.
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Juenelle. For anyone that reads this thread, it's very clear.
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Oh so I get it, now I have a problem.
Wow living a good decent life and not hurting anybody makes me be someone
who has a problem. Oh I get it now. Thank you for clarifying that.
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It is very sad jeunelle that in all your life you haven't known a good father...you've missed a wonderful experience!-
I know I have azureisland and I cry for the other girls that haven't known any like me either.
They are many.
Just think, in other countries I would be beheaded for speaking out about this very topic.
It would be an offense to many fathers and they would issue an honor killing on me.
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Jeunelle, many fathers from generations gone by have done great work so you can speak freely here today.
Just as many great fathers are among us today. The fact you have not noticed them doesn't mean there are none in your presence.
I am all for women having a fair shot at running things for awhile. That doesn't mean there are no good fathers nearby.
The best father I know does not do social networking, so he is not here to answer questions. He is too busy with the actions of being a great father. If you want to talk to him, I am sure he would be willing.
Same with the other best father I know.
Like someone else said, it is sad that you have not known "good" father. Indeed, that is a lot to live without **thinking of my father and knowing I stand on his shoulders today, even though he's been gone from this Earth for 15 years. ***
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YES you have a great point MisterDog and I do say my prayers believe me.
For it written. "For even if your father and mother forsake you, I your Lord will not".
I fully believe this to be 100% true and it is the only thing that has kept me as strong as a Lion.
Thank you Lord for your mercy. -
We're probably all on the sofa, drinking a beverage, selectively hearing about 10% of what is said to us while we stare blankly at some sort of team sport on the television.
That actually sounds like heaven to me. -
mmmmmm beverage..
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don't forget the "team sport" - hell it could be anything. I'll watch curling for god's sake. As long as I can grunt from time to time or gesture crudely towards the refrigerator with a reasonable expectation that my wife will comply.
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Lmao, wait !! That's what I do to my husband..
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the brave men have gone under the skirts of the courageous and strong women!
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Whoa....that's two unintentionally hawt comments in as many minutes from you.
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lol kdawg... warn me first before talking to me hahaha my fun is not the kind of fun others like
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www.find-a-therapist.com may have the answers needed here.
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It's time for my bubble bath. Good night.
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It's time for my bubble bath. Good night.
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I am a father of two and I think I am brave enough to keep my family alive in a good condition, this is the 'brave' on my dictionary, but I stay away from trouble as I do not have any brave to do some stupid things, unless if endangering my family, I will stay to the death.-
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"I am a father of two and I think I am brave enough to keep my family alive in a good condition, this is the 'brave' on my dictionary"
This is the type of bravery that is deteriorating or lacking in many parts of the world... -
balidreamhome and gerryPlanetEarth excellent
I am glad to see you both respond and tell us that you are here for the long haul.
This is the bravery I am speaking of. Not the cut and run most women are now use to.
I commend all fathers that are there taking care of their families. This to me is bravery,
it shows guts and balls and you are right gerry PlanetEarth to say that...
"This is the type of bravery that is deteriorating or lacking in many parts of the world"...Thank you.
danaseilhan you have some great questions raised here.
It is true that society looks at men differently and they are let off the hook more easily,
making it harder for single women to raise families and most are doing so on their own without any help not to mention the fact that women are still under paid and overworked while raising children. Obviously it should be the other way around, women should be paid more because they are raising children and children bring more expense to the family.
Pay them until men come back and then make everything equal.
It takes two to raise a child and if that is not possible
then make it easier for the one parent that is still around and didn't leave. That's all I am saying.
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It's kind of funny, the one guy saying "when women kill their kids they have a medical condition, when men kill their kids they're crazy." Because I've kept an eye on how the news reports this stuff. When women kill their kids they're monsters. When men kill their kids they're ignored. When was the last time you saw a male equivalent of Susan Smith in the news? It's glossed over, it's buried. It's never front-page news. If men are supposed to be so important to the health of a family, why aren't more people outraged when they abandon their families or kill them? It's always hushed up or blamed on the feminists. I think that is so sick.
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My mother didn't see a cent of support from any of the men in her life
and now that we are older they want to come back and have a relationship
with us. I think it's a little too damn late for that.
I want to punch my father in the face and hear some teeth crack.
Where the hell was he when I had to fight all my battles
and work like a dog since 14 years old full time till now?
I still turned out OK as I didn't hurt anyone on this planet and didn't go
to school with a gun and shoot up everybody. I still knew right from wrong.
I am now able to put my mother in her own home which I bought and paid for.
Where was my Father to do this?
I am glad to see her in her own back yard planting her garden and relaxing for a change.
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I read a report a few weeks ago that said all the brave men have relocated to Portland, Oregon. -
Jeunelle,
What bit you in the rear to sound so angry for this thread? It sounds, from your posting, that you had issues with the men your mom were with, and then transferring that feeling to all men, which I think is unfair.
Myself, I grew up with an abusive mother, but that NEVER, EVER led me to think "where are all the good Mother's out there".-
bravo RTB. i wondered the same thing. there are plenty of men who stick around and step up - and plenty of women who bail on their kids. -
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Without doubt there are more cases of men being abusive to their wives and children in our societies than visa versa. This is an extension of systemic patriarchy, religious inculcation, social and legal systems, wherein men were 'edcuated' to view their wives and children as chattels and also to exercise 'dominion' [control by force] over them.
The presumption that women are not capable of verbally, emotional, psychologically and physically abusers of their children and husbands is erroneous. The truth is that many such women exist and are actively abusing right now. Abuse by women is also minimized whenever it's brought to light.
Lke you I also grew up in a family with an abusive mother and, also like you, my personal situation did not lead me to to think "where are all the good Mother's out there".
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RTBjr73 I think you need to read in this thread where I said quite a few times that I know there are some good fathers out there and I also commend the ones who do stay and build their families.
And yes I have a right to be angry because the fact remains for me that I have seen too many families without a strong male presence.
So yes I do have a right to be angry but my anger was put to good use because I took care of my family and I am still doing so today.
Excuse you if you think that I do not have a right be angry.
I guess women don't have many rights at all.
As soon as we open our mouths to complain about something we are told that we shouldn't complain or voice an opinion.
Excuse you but I will voice my opinion and if you believe me to be angry that is your belief.
This thread is for those to respond who didn't have a strong male presence in their lives.
If you had a strong male presence in your life then that is great for you but I am a trying to reach the ones that didn't.
This discussion may be heated at times because it is an emotional discussion
and who are any of you to tell me not to be angry or how to feel. Excuse you.-
bossy, bossy, bossy. not to mention outrageously defensive.
have you ever noticed that when someone offers an opinion which differs from yours, Jeunelle, you either:
* make fun of that person
* tell them to go away
* misinterpret their words
* get angry with them or belittle them
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Ah the great ender has arrived.
Yeah ender if you believe that then yes you right about me.-
i think there might be a lot of people here who see that as your pattern.
ultimately, it doesn't matter what we see - can YOU see your pattern?
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All I see is a red monkey
Crkian I commend you for being a great father to your children.
You have balls in my book.
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then you might want to invest in a mirror.
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Well, I have to believe ender.
And don't give me your Bullvine Scatology about "I guess women don't have many rights at all." I never said you had no right to be angry (read my entry). I just asked what ticked you off.
I would expect more from someone that is highly educated to be in the optometry field, who took care of her two siblings growing up, AND took care of your mom by buying her the house of her dreams. Shouldn't the positive affect you had on their lives outweight your past?
Yeah, you got a raw deal, which I wish on NO ONE. But you prevailed; you took care of business. Just ekim and MadameX are doing (albiet their own circumstances).
But don't think you are the only one. There are BILLIONS of people on this planet. A lot of them had it better than you, myself, and everyone on this discussion. But there are a lot of people that had it WORSE.
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I had to comment since nobody seems to ever mention this.
Why is it that the major news networks show the few 1% of bad men in this country and never the 99% of good men?
All they do is show the bad news. Never the guy that does all great things every day for his family.
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Yes well that's you because it sure lead me to ask the question "Where have all our brave men gone"?
If they are around or on this thread I sure as heck would want to hear from them.
Give me some assurance that they are around and doing for their families.
What is so bloody wrong in asking this simple question?
Am I hurting anybody for asking?
Am I doing a mercy killing on someone for asking?
Yes mikeny07 you have a strong point here.
I sure would like to hear about the fathers who are doing for their families. It gives us some assurance and makes us feel better about our society or community. We feel more positive instead of constantly hearing about the negative aspects in the news.
RTBjf73 thank you but this is one of the many discussions I will be having so stay tuned.
Right now it may seem that the discussion is a bit heated but rightfully so and I am talking about it when most people may not discuss it at all. A kind of therapy for me maybe.
I am sure the world has been dealt a worst hand than me and I am not disputing that but for now I will ask the questions that need to be asked.-
Well, Ekim DID answer you, on this thread, and from his other comments in the past, and you bit his head.
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I will decide what answer works best for me.
I will be satisfied with the answer when I see it.
My soul would know the answer when it feels it
so you don't get to tell me what the answer is for me.
I will know the answer when I come to it.
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Equality was a good idea at the time but now the men are weaker and the women stronger. Nothing wrong with that except the men have become less needed. so why bother being a hero. -
Ask your local news channels and major ones to stop showing the 1% of bad men all the time. If everyone writes to them and tells them this, maybe we will see them.
I can't control what they show on TV and online in articles. It will take thousands of people writing them and asking for change. -
Im a hero everyday. i love my kids im not scared to cry id fight to the death & i love with all my heart. xx
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muscles68 my hero.
mikeny07 yes we need more people involved to tell the media to stop depressing us with their stupid negative media coverage. This could also explain the rise in Zoloft medication and other medications seen on television to help with depression. After hearing all this depressing crap on the TV an Radio you will become depressed and need to get medicated. This type of negative mental conditioning will have a negative effect on us in the long run.-
OOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Horshak (sp) Style...
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You spoke my exact words! I was just going to write something like that.
The media probably has caused most of the depression in this world.
If all the news channels showed just positive news 24 hours a day, depression rates would drop worldwide.
Any study ever done on this yet?
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The media deliver the messages that their audience wants to hear. They also craft what the messages that they deliver through their reporting into the style and form that the majority of their audiences prefer.
We all have the option of exercising our individual responsibility to preserve and protect our health own mental and emotional health. It's called a "power off" switch. I use it and wonder why others don't do the same.
If any research is to be done then IMHO it ought to be focused on why so many people are brainwashed into believing that they must be "on top" of the sensationalized news. Another aspect worth researching is why people refuse to accept the responsibility to be selective about what they watch and hear and to be selective how frequently they watch or hear.
The word blame is an interesting. It could be described as "being lame", refusing to accept personal responsibility and expecting someone else to do it for you. IMO pointing fingers at the media simply points the finger back at their audience.-
sensationalism...the eighth deadly sin...lol
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You may use it TT and this is great but this is also something that should be taught in schools for kids to learn how to handle emotional distress, depression, anger and negativity.
We would probably see a reduction in kids walking into schools with guns.
Yes mikeny07 something should be done about the media and negativity.
I wonder if the US Government is doing these kinds of negative media coverage to run test on us like lab rats. It sure makes you think why the news has become more and more negative over the last few decades. Maybe it has more to do with selling their Zoloft prescription medication via Pharmaceutical companies. The US Government is also running test right now in Alaska to control weather patterns and send messages to you subliminally, another form of mental controlling. Lord knows what else they are working on.
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It is hard today though. They put the same news articles online. Then people also bring them up in forums all over the internet.
You would have to lock yourself in a room to avoid any negative news. That is like 99% of the articles online. -
They do this with the sex offender coverage a lot. Making everyone think you have to lock the kids inside forever.
About 600,000 sex offenders living in this country. But you have about 100 million males over 18.
You know what percent this comes out to? About a half of one percent. But yet they show news on this every week.
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It is because fear is a tool.
People actually become addicted to being afraid, and whether a person realizes it or not, that is what the news feeds us ~ a daily dose of fear.
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Exactly. Show me those 99.994% of men who are not for a change.
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If we aren't aware of the psychology being used against us, it is is easy to allow the media to terribly distort our perceptions of the world around us.
We start to distrust all men, thinking that even if they appear to be one of the 'good guys' they are capable of the very worst. For women, we are predisposed to feeding this fear and distrust because we are typically the targets of rapists and serial killers.
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Actually Chelle, I don't think that it is the psychology that is being used against us but rather the psychology we use on ourselves. If we have a belief that men are evil we will look for stories that support this belief and accept them as "The norm". Conversely, stories of good men will be ignored or forgotten.
People tend to encapsulate themselves with their fears or insecurities and filter out anything that might invoke a change in thinking. In most cases, I believe that you will find that people have a tendency to feed their own negativity and rarely rely on others to do it for them. -
Wow, maybe you are right but...
HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME?!!
Men.
Ugh.
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I think you just proved my point. Feed your insecurities, eat only the bad and spit out the good
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Ha!
You are so wrong it is pathetic.
OK, maybe you are a little right.
Alright, you nailed it.
Men.
Ugh!!
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I was having a Dr. Phil moment
I know, that's pretty deep for me. After I wrote it I had to make fart noises with my armpit as a reality check -
I ran into a very serious conflict on this issue years ago, in the first domestic violence shelter where I volunteered. The overarching philosophy there was that the residents had to be protected from all men. While it definitely makes sense that resident programs like that are careful about who they let in the doors of the physical shelter, it seemed to me (even at 18) that it was counter-productive to create an environment for children that was entirely free of positive male role models. I never made any headway--the director of the program referred to my concern as an effort to "protect men from the consequences of their own actions" and I eventually found a more positive environment in which to volunteer.
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MadameX. It seem that some people are very quick to generalize. It's good to know that there are others out there that see things more rationally.
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Wow, Tiffany. I'm sure the attitudes at a lot of shelters feed into the stereotype that all men are abusers.
Growing up with a mother who physically, emotionally and psychologically abused my father (who never fought back - he just took it) gave me a much different perspective, I believe.
I saw how vulnerable a man can be and therefore knew deep down that not all of them are capable of abuse.
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Exactly offendedblogger and mikeny07 and we have to find ways to counteract it.
We should be teaching ways to relax and tune off in schools and other places where people gather.
I watch Asian women across the street from me in the morning unwinding with Tai Chi and it's soothing to watch. We need more places like these for people to unwind and get their minds off the daily negative bombarding subliminal messages we are receiving. -
I guess it would be better if we ask, where are our brave human race? Because being brave is part of human race...in the current world society where sex sells more than book, when sex Scandal makes a prostitute, famous! what do you expect? This is society mam. all of us, all in together should be blamed, regardless of gender. Because if our women were strong enough who value family values like our mothers than current new social stigmas...then you would not need to ask that question. -