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Why can women make men do anything?
Posted by sjtavo • 9/30/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: take advantage
It seems no matter how i treat a guy, he always comes back for more AND performs home (or car) improvements for me.... powertrip!
womenswit.net check it out - any of you other women, or men (perhaps you get women to cook/clean/launder for you) take advantage of people like I so obviously do?
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There's a great musical about this, you've probably heard about or seen it: "Guys and Dolls" -
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looooooool...
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Heck, some of us can even find a date without joining an online dating service. -
Answer: You can't.
There are people like me who can't be "used." -
Ah! if only I was 70 again. You must be one hot mama. -
speaking only for myself, I'd guilt trip myself if I used someone like that. -
I prefer simply asking or telling someone to jump and have them do it, rather than having to have my pussy ask them or bribe them to do it. I, how do I put this, feel much cleaner and more powerful that way.
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Because men are too smart to argue.
At least, that's what I tell my dear husband. :-) -
I like this thread
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Whateverrrrrrrrrr,men are the most hard headed egotisical self centered creatures on earth.....you can't make anyone do anything. GOD gave us the power of free will. You can pick and choose whatever you want to do....the sky's the limit-
If a man said this about women, he'd be called a sexist. I think men and women are both guilty of selfishness, which isn't always a bad thing, but when you're in a relationship, you should respect your partner regardless of gender. Men and women both contribute to society, so I wouldn't jump to broad generalizations that determine what every man is like.
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the answer is in a wordless articulation of desire whose object lies in the future, and somewhat to the south -
I won't be asking you for directions anytime soon, JDh888.
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you want to go out sometime?-
LOL I think i've created quite a reputation for myself. It's not just me who does this though - all of my girlfriends seem to be able to manipulate men easily.
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Yea
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you wish Holly! I was asking the mankiller that started this thread.
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U gonna email me some of that crawfish???
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haha it is hard to ge a man to do anything with out bribing them. Mine sits all day long on the porch and drinks his beer if I dont stay after him -
Nah, I think they've got a hidden agenda. Don't believe they're that easy to contol.
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I actually had a girl who tried this on me a while back - asking me to drive her down to Florida and back and I told her to take Greyhound.
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now see - i would never ask a POA to drive me anywhere. I have gotten POAs to pick up and deliver furniture, rearrange furniture, etc... driving me across or out of state is ridiculous. When I was hospitalized, I had POA's bringing me food, my best friend had POA's driving her to the hospital which was in another city, etc... It's not that I'm not appreciative, I am, it's just crazy to me the lengths these guys will go to make me happy and we're not dating, we're barely friends, etc. I don't know.
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women wouldn't want me to repair their car or perform home renovations .. I'm not too mechanically inclined .. -
I meant to say to because we got it like that....
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In the right circumstances, anyone can make anyone do anything (within his limitations ) -
I agree with PussDaddy. If I want or need something from a man I just ask and if he says no then he says no simple. -
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Your assertion that because one or small number of guys will come back and do things for you means that all guys will do the same is totally ridiculous and fallacious. -
it sounds like the guys you meet are stupid :-)
If a woman treated me badly, they'd suffer the wrath of the panda-
Wrath of the panda might be kind of fun. =) These guys definitely do not garner my respect - it's almost a game any more and I don't really feel bad for them because they are the ones who keep coming back for more. There is only one man I know who happens to insist that we are going to get married some day, that I respect and genuinely care about. AND I don't take advantage of him - go figure!
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People who want to powertrip all over members of the opposite sex will look for (consciously or otherwise) members of the opposite sex who want to be powertripped all over. It's that simple. Barring some sort of threatening behaviour or deep-seeded psychological problems... people who get controlled by others want to be in that situation. -
See, you know you have real skillz when you don't ask for diddly squat, and guys simply offer out of nowhere.
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I just don't understand what the point is. You must be very unhappy.
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are you asking ME if i'm happy or if I like men?? I LOVE men. and I'm one of the happiest people I know! It's just amusing to me that they are so easily manipulated. Do I respect the men I take on as POA's? Absolutely not - they are spineless and lack integrity - but then, a lot of men who are masters in bed are like that LOL
I don't take this all so seriously as some of you have - maybe it's just my attitude towards life in generally. I care deeply and greatly for the people in my life who are most important. A POA doesn't hold any importance for me so he's basically an after-thought. -
Wooopsie.....
I see where this thread is gonna go.
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i've never had a guy do that for me! and i don't know if i'd want him to... what's the point of being with someone who will do whatever you want? for me, at least, a big part of a relationship is learning to enjoy new things that the other person liked to do before you got there, and vice versa... -
SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
A couple of the gals haven't figured that out yet. Give us a break, okay? -
Not a person on this eath can be forced to do anything. It is all al matter of what you choose to do. -
Because men constantly brag, dream, fantasize about some woman "taking 'em in." Figuratively and actually. Powerful motive. I am envious of you ladies for your "power to attract". (Be heaven if it was the other way around. Women grabbing on to as many men as they could find! An' us ol' coots having the power to say "yes" or "no", and getting to pick and choose!) -
I know I've commented before,but I'm changing my answer...
Because we got it like that...-
LOL =) amen!
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I'd like to introduce you to my friend, Tucker Max. -
I LOVE Tucker Max and his book is phenomenal and I can't wait til the movie opens in Ohio!!
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Men like to think they're in charge. Once a woman figures that out it's easy!!-
I think that's it exactly - once you learn how to convince a guy to do what you want by planting the seeds and letting him come up to his "own" conclusion, it's in the bag. I know I sound evil and manipulative, but I'm really just manipulative!
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Guys also secretly like to manipulated. Well just in a few ways....
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I think this rule is true of anyone lacking a developed self esteem. Personally I have never wanted to be that manipulative. Men who do things for me, ususally do them because they know (and have seen that) I would do the same for them. Not because they're pu$$y whipped.
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are you saying the men have low self-esteem or that I do? I'm hoping it's the men because if anything, my opinion of myself is waaaay higher than it should be! LOL I haven't had low self-esteem since I was 17!
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I think I agree with you (it's early again). I don't see the point in being so manipulative either. When I see women do such things (and it's so obvious), I sometimes secretly wish karma comes around and give the women a few jabs.
Although there is some desire to smack some sense into men who bend at a woman's will as well...it is a little nauseating to see men behave that way (which I had the honor of witnessing through one of my sisters and some old friends). -
I guess this is how I justify it (and keep in mind, women can justify just about anything LOL) - I was raped when I was 17 and got to spend three years in a depressive tailspin. Then I spent ten years in a relationship with my ex-husband who drained me financially ($20k in debt) and was an absolute jerk, using sex as a reward for good behavior (bad behavior being not unloading the dishwasher when asked). I then dated a man for 2 1/2 years who physically and emotionally abused me as well as sucked the life out of my checking account. Splash those with a few guys who've just used and abused the great vagine and you've got me - a woman who clings to her dollars unless it's retail therapy time, is loved by her family and friends for her independence and uses men for all they're worth. I think I've earned it. Karma be damned - I've earned enough Karma to manipulate for the rest of my life if I so choose. Yet I still cling to the silly hope of there being a great guy out there who won't take advantage of me and will appreciate me for all I'm worth.
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And please know, I describe all that with a smile on my face. Everything that I've lived through has made me stronger and realize just how much crap I can take and still come out ahead. I'm not ranting - just stating why I am the way I am.
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And please know, I describe all that with a smile on my face. Everything that I've lived through has made me stronger and realize just how much crap I can take and still come out ahead. I'm not ranting - just stating why I am the way I am.
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@ Sjtavo
I was referring to the men's self esteem, not yours actually, but good to know you think highly of yourself.
I do want to just say that, your not the only woman who has been hurtfully and repetitively scorned by men (or men by women for that matter). I'm not going to splash my past on this post to make a point, but trust me your story is VERY common. I still don't think past pain is EVER ANY excuse to manipulate people. Hopefully your choosing better men to spend your time with. -
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well I'm glad my self-esteem wasn't in question LOL as for men - I still can't seem to get past the use and abuse 'em mentality. I have a really really hard time having any faith in what men tell me, believing I won't get hurt, letting them get close to me. I've set my standards really really high, probably intentionally so, to avoid past mistakes. I get so much love and support from family and friends, I don't feel I'm missing out on anything in not having a relationship with a man. Thus, POA's. I'm a lost cause LOL
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I'm hearing some conflicting things here though.
If you have a healthy self image and high standards, then why still be afraid of getting hurt?
I think my standards are pretty high, and I trust and love myself enough to know that I am worthy of good things. I have only dated ONE asshole, the rest where all awesome guys. I don't have to keep walls up beyond the initial beginnings..so on. I think men, GOOD men are deserving of being treated well just like good women are. Someone who has been on the other side of manipulation should know that first hand.
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I never found the woman who could make me do anything. I guess I've just been unlucky.
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Good for you.
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Men secretly know they are being manipulated, because if they don't do it, they know what comes next- the nagging (lol)-
LOL but these aren't even guys I'm dating, nor do I sit there and say "Hey, you should do this..." I mention I'd like to install new locks, they offer to do it. I mention leaves are getting out of hand, they clean them up. I mention during a wind storm that my storm door blew off and i'll deal with it later because I'm at my best friend's house, they'll go over, get the remnants off the frame and haul it away!
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May I ask in what way you repay them or who appriciation?
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oh - it's sex. These are all guys I've taken on as POA's (Piece of Ass) who will do random good deeds to stay in my good graces. It's not an intentional barter - as in blow my leaves, I'll blow you... they just offer to do all this crap for me so that they stay on my good side, make me happy in hopes of me maintaining them as POA's. I believe I've already been accused of prostitution so we can avoid that argument LOL This is just booty calls going above and beyond the call of duty - I guess you could say they're being nice guys, except they get something out of doing chores/fixing things...
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I don't think that's prostitution...since your not getting paid (or are u?)
I prefer the good old fashioned booty call, i sex him he sexes me...even exchange. I suppose to each his own... -
If you are playing the "damsel in distress" card then some men take great pleasure in that one. Appears to me that it's all about power. The question is who has it?
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Let's reiterate because I'd like to avoid the road we went down last week. I am not tooting my horn - my question was regarding manipulating men and why is it so easy? it was to support a blog posting I did last week.
The guys I sleep with are not desperate, lonely, can't get a girl kind of guys. Some have girlfriends, some prefer to not deal with a relationship with any woman, some seem to think they can convince me to date them but that will never happen. They are POAs because they aren't datable.
That having been said, I don't barter for sexual favors. I find it highly amusing that I can get a guy to do anything for me in exchange for the implied possible promise of future sex. Men do it all the time....getting a woman to do his laundry, clean his apartment, give him a ride, blah blah blah.... I've just turned the tables.
My God - I am the female Tucker Max!-
Well you haven't exactly stumbled upon uncharted territory. Plenty of women do this to men, as do men to women. Any PERSON has the ability to take advantage of someone else.
It's just on a certian level in this thread it appears that your bragging about it...and IMO that's kind of an asshle move.
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*sigh* I'm not bragging - sex just happens to be my tool in manipulation. The whole point of the discussion was the manipulation of men. I know women who with a smile and a flirt can get new free cell phones at the verizon store - no sex there, still a manipulation of men.
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If the question was why can men make women do anything? I wonder where this discussion would go. sjtavo can I ask you a genuine question, do you seriously believe you can get a guy to do anything?
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If something is socially provable based on everyday facts, I tend to agree that they exist. In this case, like some are not willing to admit, I've seen it done at least a half- million times...How do you argue with that. Exception to the rule?..Fine...But, naive to the truth?..................
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