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After having participated in a few political discussions on BC, I will no longer be taking part in any threads involving political discussion for the following reasons:

1. I can no longer tolerate uninformed opinions generated by blind followers of conservative talk show hosts. I don't let liberal mouthpieces tell me what to think and I resent being told that I am brainwashed by the "liberal" media.

2. I can no longer tolerate the use of derogatory and inflammatory language in regards to political figures. If you dislike someone's political views, find a way to express it without comparing them to Hitler. I managed to get through 8 years of George W. Bush without once referring to him as a fascist or as Hitler even though the thought crossed my mind every single day.

3. I am tired of the constant insinuation that having liberal political viewpoint makes me amoral, godless, America hating, etc.

4. It sucks all the fun out of BC when I have to be constantly on the look out for stumbling across some nasty political reference on a thread that is supposed to be about...kittens and sunshine.

I am asking ADMIN to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE remove all political and religious threads from the main discussion boards.

If you feel the same way, please post a comment on this thread and send a shout to ADMIN!

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  1. Epicharis
    Have you met The Internet?
    1. intarso
      yeah, the debates and arguments on here are pretty tame for the most part
    2. Stillthinking
      I know, anyone can say whatever they want online. I am just tired of seeing it on BC Main Discussion boards. Move it on out to the religion and political forums!
    3. Epicharis
      I agree...the political discussions should be on the politics board...but BC seem reluctant to create a Religious discussions board...
  2. MrCheeseburger
    You go girl!

    Whoa, what just happened?
    1. Epicharis
      Too much daytime tv...
    2. Stillthinking
      I just got tired of seeing political and religious discussions on the main boards.

      But having to read some moron's comments comparing Obama to Hitler was what killed it.

      Hitler killed 6 million Jews and other "undesirables." Obama was a democratically elected president who is asking students to do some public service and volunteerism in exchange for financial aid for college.
    3. Epicharis
      in fairness (though I think the comparison was stupid) Hitler was also a democratically elected official who asked young people to do public service!
    4. Stillthinking
      Obama is not asking young people to beat up Jews and Gypsies or engage in racial purity practices.
    5. Epicharis
      Neither did Hitler at first! Obama isn't Hitler...but Hitler didn't start his career with genocide...he was actually a very good chancellor aside from all the evil...
    6. Stillthinking
      ASIDE from all the EVIL. Uhm, no. EVIL was his big thing.
    7. Epicharis
      well aware of that...doesn't mean he wasn't bloody good at fixing Germany's economic disaster-zone.
    8. Agit8r
      he seems more comparable to Nixon than Hitler
    9. Stillthinking
      Smacks head! I am not going to argue about Hitler with you. We both hate him, enough said.
    10. Epicharis
      *skulks off to historians' corner*
    11. Agit8r
      sleep deprivation talking?
    12. Stillthinking
      Nixon- ARGHHHH!!! Stop, stop, stop!

      Obama is not Nixon and he is not Hitler.

      George W. Bush was more comparable to Nixon with his paranoia, his power seizing, his questionable ethics, Iraq/Vietnam.

      I thought I banished you to the politics forum????
    13. Epicharis
      I'd actually completely forgotten that I haven't slept in days! haha!
    14. Stillthinking
      By the way, I am sure that Nixon is rolling over in his grave.
    15. MrCheeseburger
      I thought you were done with politics on BC?
    16. Epicharis
      You can check out anytime you want...but you can never leave...
    17. Stillthinking
      I am just responding to complete nonsense on this thread. After I check out for the night in about a minute, I am done with politics on BC.
    18. Agit8r
      Nixon campaigned on getting out of Vietnam (which Johnson really got us into) He vastly increased the size of Gov't, including price controls, corporatist health scheme, Environmental Protection Agency... need I go on?

      Not saying that every part of this was bad, mind you. rather a mixed bag
    19. Stillthinking
      Enough! Goodnight and I am done. Farewell, cruel world!
    20. becthomasphotograp
      SiuilARuin I just want you to know I love reading your discussions!
    21. Epicharis
      *feels special*

      *realises this wasn't her thread and tht you meant stillthinking not her*
    22. becthomasphotograp
      I was talking about you.
  3. satijournal
    1. I can no longer tolerate uninformed opinions generated by blind followers of conservative talk show hosts. I don't let liberal mouthpieces tell me what to think and I resent being told that I am brainwashed by the "liberal" media.

    Did they tell you to say that?
    1. Stillthinking
      Ha ha. If I didn't like you, I would be really mad right now.
  4. Agit8r
    You haven't called Bush a fascist? Let it out, you'll feel better
    1. Stillthinking
      LOL! I preferred to talk about the specifics of why he was a bad president rather than just name call.
    2. becthomasphotograp
      I think the Patriot Act sealed Bush as a Facist, I just don't think Obama is much better.
  5. fruitcake
    Agreed! And the exact reason I no longer click on those threads.
    1. Stillthinking
      It's been building for a while now with little comments here and there. Now, I am done and I would prefer that politics be removed completely from the main discussion boards. They already have their own forum!
    2. Epicharis
      It's because ever since the upgrade the link has been removed from the discussions board...and the Politics board is super-slow to load...I guess people got lazy...
    3. Stillthinking
      I know, that is why I want BC Admins to get going on restoring the link.
  6. Shiley
    Getting annoyed too. Couldn't help but click community service is my thing darn it!
    1. Stillthinking
      I volunteer on a regular basis as well and some of the comments seriously aggravated me.
  7. Agit8r
    Sorry if I ruffled feathers. I have been dissapointed with the way that the administration has been taking shape. After I read Rahm Emanuel's book after he was appointed--how he wanted compulsory service, and to restructure the UN into NATO, just seemingly to antagonize Russia into another Cold War, I've just soured on the whole "Hope" message. I'll leave you guys to kittens and rainbows now
    1. Stillthinking
      SSSSSSHHHHH! (snaps fingers!) Not on this thread and not on the main discussion board. I don't want to hear it! Off with you to the political forum. Go!!!
  8. codesucker
    "nasty political reference on a thread that is supposed to be about...kittens and sunshine."

    LoL well put
    1. Stillthinking
      You know that someone out there is going to start an "Obama drowns kittens" thread.
  9. harveyavatar
    No reason to get worked up over the largely overstated liberal/conservative dichotomy.

    From www.michaeljournal.org/myth2.htm
    "Oliver knew that whoever controlled the nation's money, controlled the nation. But he knew also that to maintain that control, it was necessary to keep the people in a state of ignorance, and to distract them by a variety of means. Oliver had observed that of the five islanders, two were conservatives and three were liberals. That much had evolved from their evening conversations, especially after they had fallen into slavery. And between the conservatives and those who were liberals, there was a constant friction. On occasions, Harry, the most neutral of the five, considering that all had the same needs and aspirations, had suggested the union of the people to put pressure on the authorities. Such a union, Oliver could not tolerate; it would mean the end of his rule. No dictator, financial or otherwise, could stand before a people united and educated. Consequently, Oliver set himself to foment, as much as possible, political strife between them. The refugee put his press to work, turning out two weekly newspapers, “The Sun”, for the Liberals, and “The Star”, for the Conservatives. The general tenor of “The Sun” was: “If you are no longer master, it is because of those traitorous Conservatives who have sold out to big business.” That of “The Star”: “The ruinous state of business and the national debt can be traced directly to the political responsibility of those unmentionable Liberals.”

    Further the Hitler analogy is not so far fetched. Those bankers et al who financed Hitler, are the same who financed the Bolsheviks, FDR, and his successors. See Anthony Sutton:
    www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html
    reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

    See also Carroll Quigley (Tragedy and Hope)on some of the story behind the scenes
    www.geocities.com/regkeith/books2.htm#hope

    Beyond the dialectic, laying out some references.
    1. Agit8r
      but they didn't fund Andrew Jackson.
    2. Stillthinking
      Blah, blah, blah Zionist conspiracy. Got it.

      Just take it to the politics forum. Off you go!
    3. harveyavatar
      Agit: quite plausible indeed.

      ST: you are better than those who do potty exactly where they are told.
  10. NatetheGrate
    OMG! Put a cork in it, you fools! Who cares where people interested in politics put their posts? Who cares where people not interested in politics put their posts? Stop worrying about something that's just not worth worrying about. What, you have to click your mouses one or two more times? Is that what you care about? Please. It's much better to be able to communicate freely than to limit it, even if we have to tolerate morons, no matter how noble you think your motives are.
  11. kat822
    won't happen they love the drama lol
  12. LynneaUrania
    Of course we love to sling political mud all over you, stillthinking! After all, you look so cute cleaning your beautiful fur coat like that!
    1. timethief
      @will
      Hi there. It's been a long time since we have chatted.
      You haven't been around BC much lately and in this last month the General Discussion forum has featured so many religious and political threads that many members don't post anymore. Here's the link to the political forum. During the Blog Catalog 5.0 upgrade the sidebar button was removed as it was no longer the correct size. www.blogcatalog.com/politics
  13. willrhodes1961
    I have been a little busy, timethief and getting a new ISP. On here I don't want to talk politics really - I prefer to do that on my blog.

    If people want to go there and vent - they are most welcome.
    1. timethief
      I'm keenly aware of your normalcy and I miss it.

      Some folks here have the unique approach of using the forum as a pulpit and others use it as a soapbox. However, their networking approaches aren't working very well because every day they complain lack visitors and comments. Geez ... I wonder why, eh?
  14. jackpayne
    No fire in the belly.

    If in doubt, befog the issue, confound, or confuse.

    There are more chickens than people in the world.
    1. timethief
      @Jack
      Really? Well I guess that's good news. It must mean that the humans who believe that every sperm is sacred have a high sterility rate among their roosters.
  15. willrhodes1961
    HAHA!

    If that were the case, timethief, if that were the case.
  16. willrhodes1961
    I knew a sperm once - his name was Jack - it was a real problem for him because he never knew his left from his right. :O
    1. timethief
      lol ...
  17. libdrone
    lol. I find it impossible to discuss or for the most part even Think about politics anymore, at least partly for the reasons stated in the OP.

    otoh, I find threads about what a forum participant Doesn't want to read or hear anymore to be generally tiresome as well. then again, these boards have been pretty dull lately imho
    1. Stillthinking
      I have just noticed that there has been an increasing number of religious and political discussion threads on the main boards.

      I am just asking Admin to move political threads to the political forum and religious threads to it's own forum.
  18. melindaville
    Personally, I think that's a wise policy, stillthinking. Religious and political discussions go absolutely nowhere; they are circular. No one every changes their minds and they usually divide people.

    Every once in a while I get sucked in--but not often. Been there, done that on political forums until I realized it ain't that much fun to bang my head against a wall.
    1. Stillthinking
      I am just going to avoid political and religious discussion from now on, exactly for the reason you just stated. Everyone believes what they believe and nothing you say will change anyone. It just ends up riling me up and ruining my mood.

      I get annoyed though that more and more of the discussions on the main board are political or religious in nature.
    2. melindaville
      You should have seen it before the election. It was much worse then! So much that BC started a (supposed) political forum--but people still posted them here too.

      The religious ones are really toxic--I stay WAY clear of those!
    3. satijournal
      Come on, Still. Right-wingers almost always used ill-conceived logic and faulty information, so they're easy to beat in a debate. That's why they resort to insults.
    4. Stillthinking
      OMG.

      Before the election, I was so upset by the state of politics in this country, I would get into histrionic debates with anyone and everyone about why Bush was Satan. Of course,I didn't call him Satan (or any names for that matter because it just destroys your credibility in a debate by doing so).

      I always considered myself a more left leaning, moderate. I tried to understand where the other guys were coming from, but as we got closer and closer to the election, I got madder and madder about the anxiety and paranoia that the RNC was trying to stoke in their base.

      Now, I am done. I have had political heartburn for the past 8 years and now, I just want to take a TUMS and watch the sun stream in my windows for a while. I really wish the numb nuts would let Obama have more than 2 months in office before they start screaming conspiracy, commie, and death of America, but they won't.

      So my solution is to just shut it off for a while.
  19. FameofShame
    Politics are lame and boring.
  20. codesucker
    Rush Limbaugh drowns babies.
    1. Stillthinking
      He drowns them now? I thought he just ate them...
    2. Epicharis
      he saw what Obama was up to and thought it looked fun...
  21. MonkeyWrench
    Free speech can't be suppressed. Ever.

    No matter how bad people piss you off.


    (A)

    Wrench
  22. timethief
    I'm currently advocating the transformation of the existing political discussion board into a Hot Topics forum where the controversial religious and political topics can be housed together. If that idea is a go, then along with it I would like to see those same controversial topics banned from the General Discussion forum.

    What say you to that idea?

    www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/rip-this-board#comment_879193
    1. Epicharis
      nononononononononono

      they should be separate! Otherwise the political discussions will be swamped by people who aren't interested in politics and don't know anything about the topic but feel like weighing in anyway BAD IDEA
    2. timethief
      Here in the General Discussion forum what I witness is what you just described.

      At the present time political discussions can be posted to either the political forum or this one. We tend to get more reasoned and in depth political discussions in the political forum.

      IMO transforming the political forum into a Hot Topics forum and including both religious and political threads there would be a good idea. This is why.

      The only history being made on the General Discussion forum is the prolonged heated arguing between the same religious and politically entrenched minority of BC members.

      The historical fallout in the General Discussion forum has been the ill will that the politically and religiously entrenched and the rationally challenged have created. That's ironic because what we are supposedly here for is to build community on the General Discussion forum and what I see happening is quite the opposite.

      BTW I'm not claiming the high ground here as I enter both types of threads frequently. It's my opinion that a Hot Topics forum is worth consideration.
    3. Epicharis
      "IMO transforming the political forum into a Hot Topics forum would be a good idea because"

      that's a bit of a cliff-hanger!

      reasoned and in-depth discussions and religious discussions do not go hand in hand on forums like this...they just don't.
    4. timethief
      @SiuilARuin
      I'm sorry about the cliff hanger ... I multitask and the because you refer to was left hanging as I had to answer the phone and provide the invoicing and shipping information required.

      I don't know what you mean by hand-in-hand. What I am suggesting is that threads with religious topics and political topics would be posted into separate threads just as they are in the General Discussion forum now, except that they would be located in the Hot Topics forum, which is currently referred to as the political forum.

      Otherwise the political discussions will be swamped by people who aren't interested in politics and don't know anything about the topic but feel like weighing in anyway BAD IDEA

      Also with due respect to your POV, there is no political or religious intelligentsia at BC. Any member can currently post into any thread they choose to post into, and I'm not proposing that that be changed.
    5. Epicharis
      it means you'll get the people who want to talk about politics and the people who want to talk about religion on the same board...so we'll end up with people commenting on both and it'll be a free-for-all as opposed to the slightly too quiet, but fairly civilised politics board we have now.
    6. timethief
      @SiuilARuin
      So am I correct in thinking that your argument against having a Hot Topics forum where both political and religious threads could be posted, amounts to saying that the political board is quiet and fairly civilized now and you want it to stay that way?
    7. Epicharis
      no.

      "slightly too quiet, but fairly civilised politics board we have now."

      We have a civilised politics board and I want it to stay that way.
    8. timethief
      @SiuilARuin
      So is it your position that simply moving religious threads from this General Discussion forum over to the "slightly too quite, but fairly civilized politics board" will result in the creation of a noisy and uncivilized environment there?
    9. Epicharis
      yep...I think that's exactly what will happen. I don't want people quoting bits of the bible in a political discussion and then have the discussion turn into one about the merits of biblical wisdom...and that's what will happen if you lump them together. The religious discussions will completely overshadow the political ones and the political discussions that turn out to be as popular as the religious ones will no doubt have fights in them.

      I don't see why religious discussions can't have a separate discussion board. If the admins would put up a clear link to a religious board and a politics board then the politics would be more active and wouldn't feel superfluous.
    10. timethief
      @SiuilARuin
      Thanks for sharing how you feel. I'm not convinced that there are enough religious threads to merit a forum of their own but maybe there are.
  23. siralmo
    ROFL at the "like palin? - - vote now" ads by google
  24. cooper
    I've never understood why on earth it matters where a discussion is. If you don't like it don't read it, surely that is not hard to do.
  25. BernieSandwich
    I wouldn't look in a religion directory but I could be tempted to look at a thread if the title attracted me in general discussion.

    It would mean less diversity and more 'why are girls..' stuff
  26. roentarre
    Politics and Religeous stuff bring traffic. Hard to leave these two topics out

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