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Many, especially within the religious system condemn pornography as “Evil”. But when you watch pornography, the performers often call out “Oh my God” during their sexual acts. I have watched pornography & you’ll hear the word God in just about all of them. So why are these people calling out for God if pornography is evil? YOUR THOUGHTS

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    1. crpitt
      Seconded
    2. Epicharis
      thirded (?)
    3. dsriharsha
      fourthed
  1. 86john
    cos they are doing the evil things, and the demon are trying to make you think what you are thinking now.
    1. crpitt
      Poppycock
    2. 86john
      when you meet God, you will know if it's nonsense or not. if He invites you to the heaven, then it's nonsense. if He send you to hell, then obviously it's not.
    3. Epicharis
      yeah crpitt...stop starring is all that porn!
    4. Agit8r
      is that what she's reading...
    5. crpitt
      @86john, are you implying that I watch porn? Or even more disturbingly that I give a hairy hoot what 'god' thinks.

      @Siully and @agitatemepants Read porn?
    6. Epicharis
      never heard of Fanny Hill? there are some dirty dirty books...
    7. crpitt
      I prefer the term erotic literature
    8. greencurmudgeon
      @86john

      Let's say for the sake of argument that you are NOT God's representative on Earth, and after you die, He's extremely irritated with you for taking His name in vain? Who, in that scenario, is the sinner?

      As I've told you before, unless you're playing golf with Him on Thursdays, don't presume to speak for that which is utterly beyond you.
    9. Epicharis
      Imagine if Hugh Hefner turns out to be god's representative on earth...
    10. timethief
      @crpitt
      So do I
    11. Sam1982
      If its so evil then why did god make it so appealing - why doesn't porn hurt your eyes if its so bad?
    12. jflower36
      Sam, are you saying that anything that feels good must be good? What about people who think cheating feels good? Or what about a pedophile who thinks it feels good to hurt children? Just because something feels good doesn't mean it is morally ok before God.
    13. Sam1982
      fair comment - point taken. But in this case porn is nothing more than consenting adults having sex on camera. Whats so wrong about that?
    14. Sam1982
      But those doing it dont necessarily follow those religions - to them its just work, they're doing their job.
      If people are offended by porn then they should simply stop watching it. There is obviously a market for it so its not gonna go away in a hurry.
  2. Agit8r
    they are simulating what for some is a religious experience
  3. jflower36
    Is watching pornography a part of the five elements philosophy? Please don't direct me to a link. A simple answer here would suffice.
    1. flamingpoodle
      Well, the five elements does deal extensively with pornography. It's in the five element code though.
    2. jflower36
      Please tell me you're joking...
  4. greencurmudgeon
    For whatever reason, I recall a line from Blackadder Goes Forth:

    LORD FLASH HEART (Rik Mayall): "First rule is, always treat your kite (aeroplane) like you treat your woman."

    GEORGE (Hugh Laurie): "Do you mean send her flowers and take her to meet your mother?"

    LORD FLASH HEART: "No, I mean get inside her five times a day and take her to heaven and back!"
    1. Epicharis
      I think you mean "Woof!"
    2. timethief
      Woo Hoo! x 5
    3. greencurmudgeon
      LORD FLASH HEART: "Little Bobbie Parkhurst, saucier than a direct hit on a Heinz factory."
  5. Epicharis
    Best.thread.ever
  6. TeeSexy
    well, its really sad. some even go as far as dressing as a priest and having sex
    1. Epicharis
      and nuns....



      so I've heard...
    2. Agit8r
      priests huh? ...ageplay?
    3. sensitivemuse
      mmmm nuns...so innocent yet oh so bad..rawr.
    4. dsriharsha
      is it really play acting though?
  7. legbamel
    Reactionary Republicans. They do it to get a rise out of them...wait, is this the Kama Sutra thread?
  8. ArsenicCookies
    because if the person they're with is doing it right... then it's on a whole other level...
  9. flamingpoodle
    How do you even know? Isn't watching porn a sin?

    BUSTED!
    1. jflower36
      I agree FP
    2. timethief
      Busted for sure!
    3. Agit8r
      I blame the script-writer
    4. thefiveelements
      WOW! I though some readers would have fun with this thread. But it would be more purposeful if you read the question before you make a comment. “BUSTED”! “I agree FP”, “Busted for sure”! and so on. You bust someone whose hiding something. It is clearly stated in the question, “I have watched pornography”.

      Before I embarked on The 5 Element’s journey, I had done many wrongs, and even came very close to taking someone’s life, which is the greatest sin of all. Everything about me as an individual is clearly revealed in The 5 Elements, the goods & the bad, because The 5 Elements harbors no secret.

      Now to the question: Sexuality is a ritual of decency that should not be commercialized like pornography. However, violent movies & video games that are turning people (special children) into killing monsters, these glorified products are more harmful to humanity than pornography.

      One with a clear consciousness would not see watching people making love (pornography) as harmful, or sinful while being silent about the insanity of watching people being violently killed in movies & video games, and those who are doing the killing are cheered. There are many things that are glorified by society, which are more harmful to humanity then what society has condemned.
    5. Agit8r
      yes, of course all the pharisees out there don't even know what porn is *rolls eyes*
    6. flamingpoodle
      Well, how can one argue with anecdotal evidence? The Five Elephants must be true!
    7. legbamel
      I thought they were busting TeeSexy, who brought up priests on camera.
  10. wagerwitch
    I've always wondered why GOD hates anything that's fun and natural - yet SATAN gives it free reign... God Sends you away if you enjoy life --- and is super strict with nothing but a promise of you might get it if you're good enough... But Satan says - welcome all and everyone... And if God is so forgiving, why isn't everyone doing whatever they want - and just at the last moment --- asking God to forgive them... And if Porno is so bad - why do so many people do it - and like it --- and WHY THE HECK NOT?

    I mean - SERIOUSLY folks. Sex is how we ALL got here. Whether you're a Christian or a Jew...

    And only Christians treat Sex as if it's an EVIL - WRONG thing.

    I mean - come on. Give me a FREAKING BREAK.

    It's OK to BEAT your woman - but she can't go out of the house without a veil --- WHY? So people can't see the bruises you put on her? Shame on you people too.

    And who said mankind? Man is not kind. Man is EVIL. And not in that God "sense"... But in the fact that MAN will hurt others to get his own wants.

    So bring on the freaking pornography - shout God if you want --- and enjoy the hell out of it.

    *grin*
    1. jflower36
      Christians don't treat sex as if it's wrong. God created sex in the right context.
    2. Epicharis
      right context?
    3. jflower36
      Marriage
    4. Epicharis
      between a man and a woman, presumably?
    5. Epicharis
      why did god make gay people and animals?
    6. jflower36
      Why are you linking the two together?
    7. Epicharis
      I meant gay people and gay animals
    8. ArsenicCookies
      Marriage? In what context? State sponsored unions? Or a coupling that pleases both families? Or a girl and boy who love eachother so much they ask God to make it last forever and for his blessing? What about when a husband dies and it's the brothers duty to bang the wife? Marriage was a totally different concept back then so I never understood that or pretty much anything else frowned upon in religion.
    9. jflower36
      Endlessly,

      The concept of marriage is not that complex. It's a universal practice. If someone says marriage everyone "gets it".
    10. timethief
      God created marriage ... ha! ha! ha!

      The universal practice of men owning their female relatives and buying, selling or giving them away with dowries to men of their choice is a righteous tradition, don't you know?

      The stealing of females and particularity virgins from their families and tribes was a righteous tradition don't you know?

      The acquisition of a wife who was among the spoils of was was a righteous tradition, don't you know?

      Old men marrying 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old virgins was a righteous tradition, don't you know?
    11. timethief
      Yes, indeed we do get it! Patriarchal brainwashing has been a very effective means of controlling women that has endured for thousands of years.
    12. ArsenicCookies
      @jflower36 yes the concept of modern marriage is simple enough, however marriage in those days was completely different so honestly that point still makes no sense. Marriage in that era was essentially selling property to the highest bidder regardless of what that property wanted. Pimps do that nowadays... though of course they get the most bang for their buck. Way more than a few sheep.


      @ TT: "The tradition of marriage was not even celebrated in churches until the twelfth century, which was of course long before women had the vote. But hey it's a tradition, invented by god, don't you know?" exactly
    13. greencurmudgeon
      "Normal" is only normal because we accept it as such. When we change, then that becomes the "new" normal.

      It used to be normal that men treated their wives like property. We changed, and that became abhorrent, immoral. Normal has an imperative to change, if it infringes the liberty of others.
    14. jflower36
      Endlessly and TT,

      You are looking at marriage in that time through the lens of your modern day culture. There are many cultures that continue to have arranged marriages (and that doesn't make them evil). If a woman or man was treated wrong then or now, then they have to account for the wrong.
    15. ArsenicCookies
      I simply was curious how marriage was defined when the god decided marital and sexuality roles.
    16. Agit8r
      @TT... that was in the good old days when the MARKET solved all problems, before everything got socialized!

      *snicker*
  11. jflower36
    Why did God create fornicators? Why did God create sinners in general?
    1. Epicharis
      ok (that's really screwed up, but ok)...but why gay animals?
    2. greencurmudgeon
      There is no direct answer to that question, there are only individual interpretations.
    3. jflower36
      The last time I checked animals don't sin because they don't have a moral code to follow, or the ability to think and reason as humans do.
    4. Epicharis
      your god is an arsehole and if you think that this idea is reasonable then your moral compass is seriously broken.
    5. jflower36
      I know your opinion S
    6. Epicharis
      I'll stop telling you mine if you Christians stop telling me yours.
    7. jflower36
      I wouldn't expect you to stop telling me your opinion. I tell you what, if you don't ask me any questions I won't answer them But I do value what you have to say, so it's o.k. to keep it coming.
  12. wagerwitch
    Oh boy....

    If animals don't have a moral code to follow - then WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING ONE.

    Unless you reason that you are not a part of the animal chain.

    If you believe animals do not reason - then you completely have lost sight of the fact that animals survived well EVERYWHERE until MAN came along and destroyed everywhere....

    Animals reason quite well - just because we have opposable thumbs does not make US God.

    God does not give Marriage.

    Marriage is - that is correct --- but it it IS different in everyone's personal belief caste.

    Christians believe that sex is WRONG --- unless it is under certain circumstances.

    That's like saying MURDER is ok if the right conditions are met.

    That's putting a justification.

    Marriage is in no uncertain terms --- OWNERSHIP.

    I believe strongly in marriage - and I believe strongly in fidelity --- and believe it or not... I don't think it's wise for young children to be having sex.

    BUT - I do not believe it is a sin to have sex outside of the circumstance of marriage... I do not believe SEX is a sin.

    I believe RAPE is a sin.

    I believe MURDER is a sin.

    And by sin I mean something that is not SOCIALLY CORRECT at any time or place for ANYONE.

    To hurt others is a SIN.

    But sex?

    Sheesh - come on - it's how you got here... It's FUN... It's exciting - it's pleasurable --- WHY CAN'T CONSENTING ADULTS ENJOY IT HOWEVER THEY WANT TO?

    Why can't people watch it if they want to?

    Why is it a sin?

    I mean - come on --- it's the basest of human or animal nature - it is a drive that happens whether you want it to or not, unless you have a physical problem/mental problem or are brainwashed into believing that touching or feeling good is BAD.

    Christians, in my humble opinion are control freaks who want the best of the world locked up and reserved ONLY for those who follow their ways...

    And if you don't follow their ways - you are a SINNER --- an outcast - an EVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL thing.

    I don't buy it.

    But I do buy porn.
    1. jflower36
      I see you have some strong feelings on the subject Wagerwitch
    2. 86john
      wager, to you, what is meant by the word "adulteress" in the bible?
    3. wagerwitch
      86 John - ROFLMAO - I don't (read --- DO NOT) DON'T read the bible.

      Did you count Adulterer in there too? Does it have to be WOMEN ONLY?

      Just curious as to your choice of wording.
    4. epiphanizing
      wagerwitch, what about s&m, or gang-bangs, or torture porn, or rape fetishes, or bukkake, or incest, or the fetishizing of under-age girls, or the objectification of women in general? i'm all for modern sexuality, but i dont know that porn is exactly a liberal, feminist rebellion against patriarchy. its not exactly "sticking it to the man" to watch a man sticking it to a woman, so other men (and women) can jerk off.
    5. cookingasshole
      bukkake - nice vocabulary!
    6. wagerwitch
      Ugh.

      Where in the world did you come up with all those things?

      I have explicitly said "BETWEEN 2 CONSENTING ADULTS".

      Sigh, don't read words I haven't written please. It makes you seem dense.

      I don't care if you swing from chandeliers while mentally calculating abstract mathematics and blindfold yourself --- while getting sexed up - as long as you're a consenting adult.

      What YOU do in YOUR bedroom is NONE of my business.

      But what consenting adults do to themselves is NONE of YOUR business.
    7. epiphanizing
      Whoa, that is kind of awesome. The thing with the chandelier...

      I'm not saying it is my business what consenting adults do to each other, I'm just saying I have passing knowledge of the business. And its more than just "consenting adults." The porn industry is based on fantasy, and on what people want to watch, and usually its what people with penises want to watch. Its not an industry based on respecting both genders, as far as I've seen.

      Oh, I watch porn, definitely. I'm just saying, its one thing to be okay with it, its another to hold it up as a bastion of empowerment.

      Most porn does objectify women. Its sort of the function of porn: look at these pretty ladies, think of all the nasty things we can do. Its tantalizing, and its fantasy. Fine. Watch it, get your kicks. I do, too. I'm not saying I'm above it. I'm just saying, its not like: oooh, porn, a triumph of the human spirit against the oppression of the christian society. No. Porn is dirty. Fun, functional, but NOT an example of the best of mankind.

      It isnt dirty to have sex, it isnt even dirty to film it. It is a little dirty to do it for a paycheck, but most things we do for a paycheck are a little dirty.

      I just think its funny to try to glorify porn as anything other than men screwing women for other, mostly male pleasure, as it perpetuates certain negative ideas about women.

      Consenting adults is fine, obviously, but its dishonest to say that porn is just two consenting adults having sex. We can acknowledge that porn has its downsides without saying its evil, and we can acknowledge that porn is tantalizing without glorifying it.

      Thanks, bukkake is one I just learned. And I just found out about cake farting, haha.

      (Also, why BUY porn? Its so ubiquitous, dont people just go online for it now? Just me?)
  13. wagerwitch
    I do.

    I find religions to be the utmost evil thing in our world today.

    I equate religion with racism.

    They are both wrong in my humble opinion.

    There is RIGHT and WRONG.

    Wrong is anything that hurts anyone else.
    Right is being a good person and not hurting others.
    Mistakes happen - but they should be corrected as much as possible.

    There may be some ALL powerful THING out there - but I don't think that all powerful being or thing wants us to go to war against our neighbors or to hate those that are not of the same opinion or thoughts.

    I dislike anything that exerts power by extolling blind faith and fear.

    A fear of being punished or being without something SHOULD NOT BE what makes a human being a good person.

    They should WANT to be a good person because that is the RIGHT way to be.

    PUNISHMENT - is the wrong way to make me faithful.

    No thanks - I don't want to pay to make something I don't believe in by NON-OPTIONAL tithing more powerful.

    It would be different if religion was democratic - but it's not.

    It's pretty much just another form of government control - and it's insidious and slithery evil.

    So to say I'm opinionated about religion --- well let's just say I reason things out.

    And there is absolutely NO reason --- within religion.

    It is BLIND FAITH - and Because I told you so...

    And it's a dream held just out of reach like a carrot in front of the donkey... It says --- be good, follow me blindly and in the end you will get your greedy dreams... You just can't have them now...

    But of course - the pope --- or any major religious leader --- they happen to be decked out in gold...

    Hmmmmm....

    Makes me wonder...
    1. greencurmudgeon
      I think religion has a place, however there needs to be greater humility on the part of religious leaders: unless they're playing golf with God on Thursdays, it's not possible for them to directly speak for Him.

      Secondly, it's a matter of emphasis: what this thread proves is that lust is still seen as a greater seen than greed -

      www.whirledpeas.eu/2009/05/01/the-forgotten-commandment/
    2. Epicharis
      what place does religion have? I can't see that there is any need for it.
    3. jflower36
      You are right that there is a lot of corruption in "religious institutions". Jesus spoke out against the religious leaders of His day who used their position to hurt the weak. Just because someone names the name of God, doesn't make them righteous or even a true believer. You are right to be angry with injustice. God will hold all accountable for sin.

      By the way, I don't feel pressured into a belief in God. I believe that God is real...I would stake my life on it.
    4. larrybrains
      I don't think the problem is religion. The problem is organized religion.
    5. flamingpoodle
      No, religion. Organised religion is just a way to try and legitimise your insecure superstitions by having other deluded people buying into them too. As long as we have people fighting tooth and nail over pies in the sky and the Five Elephants, religion would be the problem, whether it is organised or not.
    6. 86john
      green, God doesn't speak to just anyone. He only speaks to the apostle or prophet like Moses, Abraham... they will know what to do when God send them visions from heaven. God also speak to them from heaven.
  14. wagerwitch
    Again green - I say this:

    LUST is just another natural human reaction to life.

    Religion extols upon it's worshippers that LUST is evil and they must refrain - as a form of control.

    My belief is that there was a time when raping and pillaging was far and wide --- and in a wave of fear - the leaders of the religious movements stomped down on the rapers and pillagers in the only way they knew how.

    But they forgot to lift it somewhere - and started using it to keep women as chattel - so that other men wouldn't touch their women.

    You do realize that WOMEN are the ones who used to come into a marriage with something - and that the men were usually poor. Small thing called a dowry.

    Anyhow - in the church - there was a case where a Priest died and his WIDOW owned a significant amount of land that the church wanted... And the Church somehow decided that Priest's could no longer marry. I'm not sure where I read that - but that was when I first realized that CHURCHES were about manipulation and power - and that was WRONG.

    And now they use it (lust) as a way to keep people under their thumbs.

    Some religions say "do this evil deed and you'll have 9 wives for you in heaven as you die"... If that is not a manipulation of lust in men - then what is?

    I totally dislike religions.

    And I still think LUST is normal.

    SEX is ABSOLUTELY NORMAL

    Or you all wouldn't be here.

    The belief that sex is wrong and that LUST is evil is purely religious in nature.

    Lust - not RAPE or wrong intentions with a Non-Consenting adult - is completely NORMAL.

    And I sometimes think that because we try to hold it back that we, as a nation - and as humans - are creating monsters that do rape and kill.

    WW
    1. 86john
      sex is not wrong but adultery is. sex between husband and wife is not wrong.
    2. Agit8r
      but it can be yeah
  15. wagerwitch
    The other thing I find infinitely interesting is that CULTURE often dictates the BRAND of religion.

    IF RELIGION WERE REAL -- wouldn't it ALL be the same?
    1. cookingasshole
      The mystical aspect remains the same. I think you are being too resentful due to a lack of information about certain thing.
    2. Epicharis
      no, cookingasshole, she's right. not only are their vast differences between the dogmatic religions, but if you then compare the fundamental differences between dogmatic religions and ritual religions you end up with everything you could think of...
    3. cookingasshole
      but the basic mystical tenets remain the same. That is my point.
    4. Epicharis
      which mystical tenets?
    5. cookingasshole
      the ideal of achiving oneness.
    6. Epicharis
      that idea is not present in the vast majority of ritual religions.
    7. Epicharis
      Greek, Roman and Egyptian 'paganism', Norse and Germanic religions. These are the ones I know about. I don't know much about African religions but I have a feeling that many of them would be similar.
    8. cookingasshole
      those are all very ancient and have not existed for ages
    9. Epicharis
      I don't think that in any way discounts them from what WagerWitch was saying. And there are actually plenty of modern pagans who profess belief in those gods.
    10. jflower36
      "IF RELIGION WERE REAL -- wouldn't it ALL be the same"

      Are you asking if a religion is right, why doesn't everyone believe? Or are you saying that if something was real, everyone would know it? I'm not sure exactly what you mean. But I will say this...something can be true without people believing in it.
  16. artsyfartsymalaysia
    I feel religion has a certain way of contorting the way things are supposed to be. so yeah.

    maybe we condemn it cause it's made into a routine to do so. Like a conformity thing.
  17. rfburnhertz
    Porn is destructive to all involved
    1. flamingpoodle
      Except all those single moms who put their kids through school and college thanks to porn.
  18. larrybrains
    Back on the topic of pornography entwined with religion, has anyone read the novella "Story of the Eye" by George Bataille.

    It was written in 1928 and details the increasingly bizarre sexual perversions of a pair of teenage lovers.

    It is a great read, and contains some glorious scenes of desecration.

    You can download the PDF of the story here and read it.

    Warning: Contains strong sexual content in the form of rape, necrophilia, coprophilia, fetish objects (particularly eggs and eyeballs), and half a dozen other types of deviance. It's good though.

    supervert.com/elibrary/zips/bataille_story_of_eye.zip
  19. drjay1966
    @thefiveelements: Ummm...this may come as a big surprise...but not everybody agrees about pornography being evil...or sex being evil...or the nature of evil...or the nature of God...or whether God even exists...

    Thus, if you were talking about somebody who shares all of your viewpoints and beliefs about these things yelling "God" in a porno, your question would make sense. As it is, it doesn't.
    1. thefiveelements
      @drjay: Read the question before you make a comment.

      I said: "Many, especially within the religious system condemn pornography as “Evil”."

      I did not said what you are saying
    2. crpitt
      Its okay, we get that your a porno fiend.
    3. 86john
      sex is not evil if it's between husband and wife. adultery is. sex between unmarried ppl is. sex between gay is. sex between les is.
    4. xmarks
      It doesn't matter how you phrased the question. The people in the porno apparently don't share the views that pornos are bad. Therefore, there is no reason to not say god.
    5. epiphanizing
      at 86john: evil? isn't that a bit strong? EVIL? the same word you use to describe the behavior of a serial killer? isn't evil a better word for something devoid of feelings, or devoid of positive feelings? and is it the act thats evil, or the people doing it? what about when husbands rape their wives, is that evil? i entered this discussion HONESTLY thinking this would be hilarious and jokey. but uh. this happened.
  20. idealpinkrose
    is it because they feel like heaven? muhaha...
    1. thefiveelements
      Or maybe it is the devil (Beelzebub) that is mocking God
    2. crpitt
      haha!
  21. nothingprofound
    I find it's usually the woman shouting: O God! O God! The man is usually thinking of what to do next.
    1. flamingpoodle
      I think they shout oh god because they're not entirely sure what the partner's name is.
    2. Agit8r
      or the think [removed by community] is their god at that moment
  22. creemos
    "Because their hearts are deceitfully wicked." God
  23. Epicharis
    If the couple are married...is porn ok?
    1. epiphanizing
      good question
  24. lotusb
    The people who are IN porn are obvisouly not religious...so calling out his name has less meaning to them. If using God's name in vein is a big deal to you...RULE #1...don't be in porn...
    1. Epicharis
      how do you know that the people in porn aren't religious?
    2. nothingprofound
      They're not wearing their yarmulkes.
    3. flamingpoodle
      RULE #2: Don't watch porn?
  25. MissSuzie
    Oh my god...no you didn't!
  26. JamCan
    LOL people in porn have no morals already....why do they care if they take the Lord's name in vain??
    1. drjay1966
      So, apparently "blindly judgemental of people you don't know" is a synonym for "moral" in your world?
    2. JamCan
      In the Christian world, I don't think its a blind judgement at all. Porn stars don't abide by Christian morals unless that's really well done SIMULATED sex they're having.
    3. Epicharis
      I didn't realise that having sex on camera was forbidden in the bible?
    4. JamCan
      I know you're just trying to antagonize me but give me a break. If you KNEW anything about the bible you'd know what I'm talking about. Sex outside of marriage....ESPECIALLY with multiple random partners all at the same time...blah blah blah. I KNOW I don't have to explain myself.
    5. Epicharis
      So if it's sex between a married couple it's ok? I'm sure there is porn like that...are those people evil immoral satan-worshipping demons?
    6. JamCan
      "evil immoral satan-worshipping demons?"

      You said those words, not me!

      Anyways, like I said....I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

      Enjoy the rest of your day!!!! :-)
    7. Epicharis
      lame...
    8. JamCan
      Not nice.
  27. fczamora
    LOL... OMG? its personal - the one who blurts OMG during sex believes in her/his god not necessarily my god or other's god... OMG!
  28. fczamora
    luke 6:46 - Why do you keep calling me 'Lord, Lord,' but don't do what I tell you?
  29. wagerwitch
    Isn't it of the Christian belief that IF YOU THINK IT - it is already a sin?

    I mean - therefore wouldn't simulated sex be a SIN to Christians?

    I mean - sheesh, let go already.

    NOT EVERYONE IS CHRISTIAN - therefore NOT EVERYONE is oppressed by CHRISTIAN dogma - and NOT EVERYONE believes that EVERYTHING pleasurable is a sin.

    OK - let's say this:

    Would a MARRIED COUPLE who make a video of their copulation be PORNOGRAPHY?

    But they are married.

    But they aren't showing their films to ANYONE else.

    But PORNOGRAPHY is films of sex.

    Hmmm Conundrum - here.

    DO YOU ALL REALIZE THAT ONLY THE MISSIONARY POSITION WAS ACCEPTABLE IN CHRISTIAN RELIGION AT SOME POINT?

    Sheesh - what a waste of fun.


    Did you realize that CHRISTIANITY says and EYE for an EYE...

    (in other words, it's ok to KILL - if someone has killed before?)

    Hmmmmm... So VIOLENCE, MAYHEM and MURDER are OK.... but physical pleasure... Oh freaking noooooooooooo!


    Somehow, I do believe that somewhere there are a group of people who LOST their trust and belief in humanity and had to be treated like mindless sheep... So they allowed a group of people headed by someone charismatic to tell them what to do.

    Now we all know, thanks to HITLER (and no, this isn't a Godwin's Law thing - just FYI) that absolute power corrupts, and sometimes those in power are perversely made happy by things that diminish other people's happiness - and that they enjoy inflicting pain and humiliation on those surrounding them or are below them.

    So doesn't pain and humiliation sound EXACTLY like what Christianity is?

    No sex - no pleasure - no money - give money to the church - it's a sin to do anything that is fun or pleasurable... etc. Ad infinitum?

    As to CA's choice of religions that are not the same.

    EVERY RELIGION seeks to a HIGHER POWER(s)that is in control, because humanity cannot percieve that they are in control of themselves and what is around them to all degrees, if they could just figure it out.

    Relgion(s) all seek to make someone HIGHER and everyone else LOWER.

    Without Follower - religion(s) would not exist.

    In that extent - ALL POLITICS - and ALL RELIGIONS are the absolute same.

    But - in the truth of the matter - all that is changed is the god(s) head.

    Money - a man - a spirit - power.

    Now - pornography...

    Tell me - what is worse? An eye for an eye - or two people laughing, getting it on so that others can get excited sexually and want to replicate the moaning and groaning of pleasures that are going on?

    Hmmmmmmmm....

    I mean - the death of video game villans should be more scary than pornography ANY DAY.

    We subject our children - cheering them on as they KILL, Main, Disfigure, Destroy, Harm, Mutilate and kill - in these video games we purchase for them on YOUR CHRIST'S BIRTHDAY.

    Sheesh.

    Talk about priorities.

    WW
  30. wagerwitch
    PS - I STILL BUY PORN.

    *GIGGLE*
    1. Sam1982
      Me too - and proud of it.
  31. wagerwitch
    Thanks Sam... LOL!
    1. Sam1982
      And It looks as though we're the only ones going to admit to it too
  32. wagerwitch
    Yeah - I know --- they're all closet watchers. (And maybe even closet buyers).

    I mean seriously, IF there wasn't a DEMAND for it, there wouldn't be any.
    1. Epicharis
      I think it's just you two buying it all up...
    2. Sam1982
      Exactly - even those complaining about it have obviously been curious enough to watch it.
      In my opinion I don't get why people are so shy on the topic of porn - like its so taboo, and giving it a bad rep. Its quite the opposite really. Its as normal as washing your hands
    3. Sam1982
      @ SIUIL: shhhh closet redtube watcher pay for the full movie for once
    4. Epicharis
      haha! Porn's not really my thing...I'm into other stuff...
    5. Sam1982
      haha says the person who's had how many threads about porn??? hahaha
    6. Epicharis
      Come now...I mean...don't...erm...oh forget it...
  33. wagerwitch
    Yeah - that's it.

    Me and my millions of porn movies sitting in my private warehouse.

    And you know he has his own warehouse too!

    LOL!
    1. Sam1982
      I do import a lot of it through work though - some of the titles out there though......when you think they've thought of them all the names just get better and better
  34. wagerwitch
    Well - you kinda do have to wash your hands when you're done.

    *giggle*
    1. Sam1982
      Well yeah theres always that, but depends on if you watch them alone or not
  35. wagerwitch
    Dude --- don't tell me you just uhm.... let it dry hard and crackly?????!!!!!?????

    *giggle*
    (I am talking about the drool, of course, ahem... yeah, that's it)
    1. Sam1982
      The drool, never runs down my chin :).

      *makes a run for it*
    2. Epicharis
      well thank you very much...I just spat (water) all over my computer screen...
    3. Sam1982
      Sorry I'll give sufficient warning the next time I have some sort of uncontrollable outburst.
  36. wagerwitch
    You should try Dr. Pepper through your nose - it's much more bubbly and interesting.

    A cleansing experience.

    LOL
    1. Sam1982
      I love Dr pepper - but its like a treat for me, you can only get it at certain dodgy convenience stores run by Indians - and they charge $3 per can.
  37. wagerwitch
    How much do they sell pornos for?

    LOL!
    1. Sam1982
      They dont - they're too busy reading them and watching them. And thats not actually a joke, theres one that actually has his tv screen on the counter and there's porn playing all the time. The porn that they do try and sell, are the ones that news agents have cut the front covers off because the issue didnt sell for that month. So the Indian dude raids their waste bin at night and tries to re-sell the issues in his own shop
  38. oren
    maybe they have their own god - and that guy (the god) don't mind them in doing so.. or it's how they praises him... ???
  39. wagerwitch
    Hey oren - almost Rastafarian in nature...

    LOL!
  40. acousticguitarist
    I think this may answer some of your questions. It's very thought provoking. If you dig deep you might get a deeper understanding of what happens when you get too religiously "tight". Yes it's cnfronting.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVL8m6HmqnM&eurl=http://healingtreesformen.wordpres...

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