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Are Women second to Men or NOT ?
Posted by techprism • 11/22/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: MEN, women
Are Women second to Men in different sphere of life ??
What do you think about that? Why?
I feel that Women are Not second to Men in any respective.
Lets discuss.
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I am not sure what you are asking, so I can't give you an answer.-
I Mean that
Are Men ahead of Women in different spheres of life?
Or Women are proving themselves better than men? in the present scenario. -
Are you asking if women are inferior to men?
Some women are superior to some men in certain things...and some men are superior to some women in certain things.
The question is entirely too broad to have a single valid answer. -
yes ,,,agreed
but its not true for people who still think that girls are inferior.
In many countries women are kept under seclusion,, debarred from studies,,
not all given the Rights,, that Men entertain ?? Why?? -
Fear and ignorance.
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religion & culture are responsible as well.
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I think the society they live in dictates which gender is what -
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I agree, & think that most of us will tooo.
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In many countries women are kept under seclusion,, debarred from studies,,
not all given the Rights,, that Men entertain ?? Why??
The answer to your question is paternalism and religion (ignorance and fear). In countries where paternalism and theocracy, or religious intrusion into government affairs prevail, westernized countries included, men are taught to believe they have a vested best interest in retaining power and control over women, and women are taught to be remain subjugated to male authority. Men derive social standing based upon both their wealth and how many people, including women, they control. This situation perpetuates the myth that women are inferior to men. Religious organizations headed by men, and the governments comprised of a majority of male decision makers are loathe to give up their power over the ignorant masses, whom they have brainwashed with their dogma and doctrine, and the ignorant masses fear change.-
also the environment is resposible,,
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Everyone knows men have a defective "Y" chromosome. Does that answer your question?! -
I believe in equality, although it will depend what cultural you are living among.-
it is the rael need ,,,
i agree,,
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I think that women are men should be treated equal, but there are definite differences in men and women, scientifically. Their genetic make-up is different. Studies show that physically men are typically stronger than women. Brain activity is also different in men and women. However, being a woman, if given a task, I can complete it just as well as any man (as long as it's not a physical task, like lifting heavy objects).-
Its a different view of thinking, you are talking about the natural things.
What women are doing today or more specifically they have proven themselves in the man dominated society, should not be forgotten.
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However, being a woman, if given a task, I can complete it just as well as any man (as long as it's not a physical task, like lifting heavy objects).
Out here in the countryside I do not witness either men or women lifting heavy objects. We use machinery for those tasks and women operate the machinery just as well as men do.
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Actually I have just blogged about a similar topic. iwillescape.com. I write about how men have become total sissies.I woke up one day afraid of calories and afraid of fighting and afraid of breaking bones and wondered what happened to real men, men like Humphrey Bogart and Gregory Peck? I believe women and men do not need to be equal as we are different. Women are superior at being feminine, and men are superior at being masculine. A woman thinks differently, acts differently and when a man and a woman work together for common goals the strengths and weaknesses of both then balance each other out. we live in a youth obsessed culture who is totally afraid of growing up. Totally afraid of commitment, totally afraid of responsibility. It makes me sick. I know 30 year old men who are balding and spend time playing video games and drinking beer. What ever happened to getting married, raising a family, and being a productive member of society? I think that men's desire to chase women around has led to a woman worshipping state of society where men will trade anything for attention from them. Even his masculinity. Why women would like sissy emo type metrosexuals, i have no idea. Isn't the idea of a man who is strong, smart, cunning, diplomatic, and sexy appealing? Someone who can protect you, take care of you even if you don't need him to? Why do we all need to have smooth chests and skinny jeans and a sense of style. I like to be rough around the edges, I like beer and I like owning a handgun. I like using tools and I wish I would have been raised knowing how to fix a car or build a tree house.
somewhere along the line, men started asking women to look and act like porn stars and to try their hardest to be thin and hot all the time, and women just went for it. Instead of refusing to be perfect they started trying as hard as they could. Some got pretty close and started telling all other women to be like this as well and they were exploiting themselves on magazine covers.
Then it became our turn, and look at what we've become. Men who have never gotten their hands dirty spending weekends in a turtleneck shopping at potterybarn with their wives worrying about decor. this is what cable television has done to us. It makes me sick.
instead of trying to live up to these unrealistic ideal archetypes, why don't we just refuse to be perfect packaged barbie and ken dolls? Women don't need to be thin or have huge breasts or want to be sexy all of the time, and men don't need to have great hair and a six pack and lots of money. I think women should be smart, tough, but gentle and caring. I think men should be able to be brutal when need be, honerable, and genteel. Never taking advantage of a women. and always living by his values.
I'm starting a movement today for men to be real men. Metro is out, MACROsexuality is now in. Women should be women, and men should be men, and both should respect the strengths of the other. Without a women's abilities men would be absolutely lost and I think women would be as well. We need each other, but instead of teammates, we've become competitors. Instead of being equal, we should strive to continue to be different, and be proud of the fact that we are different and admit that one needs the other. I for one am putting down my nail file and taking off my scarf and I'm going to get some calluses and pledge to not be afraid of hard work or of bruises or of pain, or of picking up a hammer or a wrench.-
How do you feel about the fact that 31% of all Americans living in poverty are women, who are single parents and who are being paid less for doing work of the same value that men do? Specifically, how do you feel about these facts about women in America?
* Nearly 1 in 4 girls does not graduate from high school
* Female dropouts earn on average 7 percent below the Federal Poverty Line for a family of three ($15,520 vs. $16,600) while women with high school diplomas earn on average 32 percent above that level ($21, 936 vs. $16,600)
* Girls make up 87 percent of students in traditionally female fields such as cosmetology and childcare and only 15 percent of those in traditionally male fields. Those who enter traditionally female occupations can generally expect to earn half—or less—of what they would earn in a traditionally male field
* Women still earn on average 78 cents for every dollar paid to men. -
Excuse me but I never needed protection from any man.
I have always been on the frontlines of whopping arse when I needed to.
I was taught due to failure from Fathers, Uncles and Boyfriends to rely on me
and not to depend on anybody.
I think men fail to realize that protection doesn't equal to possession.
His Cro-magnon pea brain cannot seem to distinguish between the two
and wants to hide a woman in a sealed fortress.
Not me, I would be busy making a bomb to blast the hell out of it.
I refuse to let my beautiful shining spirit be contained by some beastly, ignorant madman.
The only time I would ever wear a Burka is if I hit the Lottery for millions of dollars,
then I would go to collect it wearing a Burka as I don't want everyone to know that I got rich overnight and would want to hide my identity from some of you nuts.
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No, but women are different than men are... (Thank you God). Positionally, man came first and woman came from him - and that has been the issue ever since.
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Upholding religious paternalism and ignorance is the preoccupation of weak and insecure men.
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I could have added who have small penises and large egos.
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LOL! (again) that's generally my take as well!
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So what! That should have no bearing on women being able to fulfill their potential academically, intellectually or physically.
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@ creemos
How did you come to know about that??
I disaggree.-
Values, upbringing & society matters a lot.
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Women are NOT inferior to men except in the way they are treated in nearly every society. Women in the U.S. still earn approximately 85 cents to the dollar to what a man makes, given the same experience level and education. And of course, women are less likely to be promoted and to hold high powered offices.
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Exactly and if men really love their mothers, aunts, sisters, wives and daughters then why has this NOT been rectified?
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I agree entirely. On a positive note, things have changed for the better in the past 30 years--but that doesn't mean that we still don't have an enormous distance to go. One of the things that threatens to keep women in an inferior position is the religious right's zeal in trying to overturn Roe v. Wade. That would be disasterous for the women's movement.
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But its not everywhere. Today some women leads the world, they posses higher posts like CEOs, MDs & political leaders. Even in India there is a very large population of them going for higher studies & are allowed to do what they want to. The things are changing.
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Countries in the world that have strong secular values and less religious influence in government have lower crime rates, and higher social values. I am referring to the most atheistic societies, including countries like Norway, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, & to a certain extent Canada (Note that while these are not 'true' atheistic societies, with 100% atheists there, but they are far more atheistic than say South Africa, USA, etc.).
These countries are far better "behaved" in almost every measure (eg. violent crime, sexual ethics, spread of STD's, teen pregnancies, abortion rates) - these are all lower in countries where there are higher levels of indigenous atheists. So it does seem that the belief that high levels of religiosity somehow lead to higher levels of ethical or moral behaviour are patently false and a fantasy. -
This study compares America to a large group of Western European countries -- as well as to Japan, and I believe, Canada. The polling done was contemporaneous with the statistics cited, and in almost every case, the countries with the higher belief in God have worse statistics.
moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
The study shows is facts and figures that can be interpreted in either way. Either religion causes crime and social disorder or crime and social disorder cause religion. Here is the premise for the study: That countries where people are more religious have more crime.
Religiosity, Secularism, and Social Health
moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2006/2006-1.html
Another study, which suggests strong belief in both God and the Devil, such as espoused by Evangelicals, is correlated with high homicide rates: moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2006/2006-7.html -
Interesting that you should include South Africa in your example...despite some clear religious leanings here (no liquor sold on Sundays, for example), the rights of women in this country are better codified, guarded and respected here than in the US. Our Deputy President, who used to be Speaker of the House, is a woman, gender equality is guaranteed by the Constitution, the Adverising Standards Authority will require the removal of ads that depict or promote negative images of women (I helped get an ad pulled that depicted violence against women as a game), and abortion rights are not even a debatable issue here...they are sacrosanct, and abortions are free for the asking at state-run medical facilities. Equal rights are zealously guarded here, so much so that when a gay couple petitioned the High Court for the right to marry, gay marriage was made legal throughout South Africa because, in the Court's opinion, gay people were being denied equal rights without it.
We have a long, long way to go in this country, but sometimes it makes me shake my head in wonder when I see how far ahead of America we are! -
@sweetviolet
The most frustrating aspect is that many Americans still cling to the vain glorious belief that that they lead the world when it comes to human rights and equality for women. Clearly there is no foundation for making such a claim. When compared with other "first world" or "leading nations" in the world America is a backward nation in this regard. -
Of course, some women are in positions of leadership--but that doesn't mean that ALL women are on equal footing. Hillary Clinton is a NY state senator--but how many are there in all? Not many as compared to the number who are men--and there are more women in the U.S. than men.
And take Pakistan--Benizer Bhutto was a woman who was the PM--but women in that country are treated very unequally--so just because one woman is in power doesn't mean equality for all. -
@tt
"The study shows is facts and figures that can be interpreted in either way. Either religion causes crime and social disorder or crime and social disorder cause religion. Here is the premise for the study: That countries where people are more religious have more crime."
I disagree with this interp... My diverse Country (United States) houses every religion and non religious imaginable and culture and people group, so trying to blame problems on one certain subject or another is not feasible. -
@mytyler77...Yes in China women/men are told how many children they can have by their government.
The Government actually controls these womens reproductive rights.
In China women were taught to not prize female babies as equal and they were not wanted by their society, thus forcing many of those women to kill their female babies and discarding them as unwanted births. There was a newspaper clipping a few years ago that showed a female baby that was thrown on the sidewalk where many people walk about and nobody picked up the dead baby and buried it or even attempted to place it in the dumpster that was right across from it. This problem is not only residing in China but is a global problem in the minds of our society, families, religions etc. This whole world paternal control thing has got to be toppled. -
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Obviously society/government still lends support to paying men higher and leaving women poor and penny-less.
I can't tell you what this does to a woman who is simply trying to feed and educate her children, especially when the Father has long run out on his family leaving the Mother to do all the hard work herself. The Mother is not only the one to suffer but also the children.
Society also suffers if these children aren't properly educated and attended to, they will become murderers, rapist, etc.
Yet I know many Mothers that stuck it out and raised some high ranking members of society. Let's look at Obama for instance.
His Mother raised him bascially alone after his Father had long run out on them as a family.
He later becomes President due to the personal love, support and teaching of the Mother. Where the hell was the Father all that time?
The strength of a woman can be seen in what she produces, even when she is given little resources and support from society and/or government to work in her favor.
Yet she can still place the Son upon the throne to rule the world and she does it in your face.
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It remains a fact that countries in the world that have strong secular values and less religious influence in government have lower crime rates, and higher social values. Violent crime, sexual ethics, spread of STD's, teen pregnancies, abortion rates are all lower in countries where there are higher levels of indigenous atheists. So it does seem that the belief that high levels of religiosity somehow lead to higher levels of ethical or moral behaviour are patently false and a fantasy.
If you do not attribute the lack of equality between men and women in America to systemic paternalism and religious intrusion into governance, then what do you attribute it to? -
@tt
You said: It remains a fact that countries in the world that have strong secular values and less religious influence in government have lower crime rates, and higher social values. Violent crime, sexual ethics, spread of STD's, teen pregnancies, abortion rates are all lower in countries where there are higher levels of indigenous atheists. So it does seem that the belief that high levels of religiosity somehow lead to higher levels of ethical or moral behaviour are patently false and a fantasy.
If you do not attribute the lack of equality between men and women in America to systemic paternalism and religious intrusion into governance, then what do you attribute it to?
@tt
How can that be proven? How can anyone really compare these countries you’ve just mentioned to United States’ huge quantity and quality of peoples, languages, views, cultures, finances, religions and non-religious? It is impossible to say that it's because of religiosity or lack of, or equality in the genders or races…
Maybe… just maybe… it's because of the confusion in communications while dealing with so many differences in everything imaginable, that is the cause of unethical or unacceptable behavior. -
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How can that be proven?
Violent crime, sexual ethics, spread of STD's, teen pregnancies, abortion rates are all lower in countries where there are higher levels of indigenous atheists. This isn't a matter of conjecture. There are statistic analyzes that can be compared and that have been extensively studied on all the items I listed.
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I absolutely agree with you--organized religion opens itself up to zealots who take things to the extreme (such as the poster above who believes that women actually came from Adam's rib). This last election was very important on that level--because the election of Palin and her extreme religious views threatens women all over the U.S. Personally, I don't think she should even be a governor but at the very least she will do less damage in AK than she would have, had she been elected for VP. She is waiting for GOD to tell her if she should run for the presidency in 2012. Is she for real??? Good grief!
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Even if some believe women came from adam's rib, I have to ask so what? History does not support the contention that women cannot fulfill their potential physically, intellectually, academically etc.
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Good point, jafabrit!
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@jafabrit...exactly..after all God was said to have breathe
life into the dust of man (Adam). Adam & Eve later fell from grace.
Lilith (Adam's 1st wife) was also made out of impure earth
which God breathe into and guess what? She turned out bad too.
My request is that God should take the time to NOT breathe life into empty dead shells,
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Eve coming from Adam's rib:
Speaks side by side equality to me!
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United States is not perfect but neither is any other place on this earth. All countries have their problems that stem from the very people that live within the boundaries.
Women have come a long way here in United States, but hearing people say we have a long road to go yet, does not compute in my mind... Why? It shouldn't take decades and generations of time to change things that need to be changed in any country. Saying the words "we have a long way to go" is discouraging and disheartening negative thinking and not true.-
Its their positivity towards their goals & the vision that they are working for.
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Saying the words "we have a long way to go" is discouraging and disheartening negative thinking and not true.
Not true! Surely you jest.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2005, nearly 12.6% of the United States' population, or thirty-seven million people live in poverty.
* 31% of all Americans living in poverty are women, who are single parents and who are being paid less for doing work of the same value that men do.
* Women still earn on average 78 cents for every dollar paid to men.
* Nearly 1 in 4 girls does not graduate from high school.
* Female dropouts earn on average 7 percent below the Federal Poverty Line for a family of three ($15,520 vs. $16,600) while women with high school diplomas earn on average 32 percent above that level ($21, 936 vs. $16,600)
* Girls make up 87 percent of students in traditionally female fields such as cosmetology and childcare and only 15 percent of those in traditionally male fields. Those who enter traditionally female occupations can generally expect to earn half—or less—of what they would earn in a traditionally male field.
Whatever Americans may have mastered in the areas of technology and science, etc. is not necessarily a measure of "achievement" in terms of the advancement of their citizens or of the human species. It seems the governments they elect are hard-hearted when it comes to human suffering in terms of women and children living in poverty, and all too accommodating when it comes to assisting corporations to prosper.
Americans have a very long way to go when it comes to actually creating equality between men and women. Taking the position of complacency (we have come along way so let's all take time out to pat ourselves on the back, compare ourselves to third world countries, and while we are at it let's sing a vain glorious little patriotic praise song) is NOT likely to motivate change and change is most certainly what is needed. -
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No!! I do not jest!! It is that extremely negative remark that can stop things from moving forward.. If we say it enough times, then we will begin to believe it, Therefore no hope... Where there is no hope! No changes can occur!!!.. So I don't believe in the negative view that we have a long ways to go... And I am also doing something about it too, I am the president of a women’s group here that believe in women, builds them up, helps them out, encourages them and shows them how.. it's hands on work to improve unwanted conditions, rather then sitting around whining about how unfair it is... So don't bother lecturing me on how my view is all wrong because it doesn't coincide with the many statistics you constantly quote.
You wrote: "Americans have a very long way to go when it comes to actually creating equality between men and women. Taking the position of complacency (we have come along way so let's all take time out to pat ourselves on the back, compare ourselves to third world countries, and while we are at it let's sing a vain glorious little patriotic praise song) is NOT likely to motivate change and change is most certainly what is needed."
That sarcastic whimsical attitude is not is not the attitude of the people I know who live here in the United States, none of them are comparing, or compliantly patting themselves on the back about anything... nor do they turn a blind eye to changes that are needed, but they keep steadily moving forward, experimenting, and learning new ways to cause changes to happen. Regardless… of the negative views of others.
But then again you wouldn't know that because you don't live here, so you wouldn't be privy to the true heartfelt passion of the people that do. I myself happen to love my country… We have our problems… but what country doesn’t. We have a huge mixture of people, cultures, views, rich and poor in the United States. With that comes a bigger variety of problems... but also a bigger variety of awesomeness too…
Just because you can't see changes, does not mean it isn't happening..
So if we want to dwell on only the problems then that is all we are gonna see...
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@arcticulates
I'm actually situated on an island that is the home of many Americans and vacation destination for many Americans too. We are very close to the from the San Juans. From what I have researched and from what I observe women still have not achieved full equality with men in America. It's my position that looking how far we have to go, rather than looking at how far we have come, is a great motivator when it comes to moving forward. If you disagree then so be it. I'm your friend and that isn't going to change. -
@tt I am sorry I must not be very clear on what I am saying... It isn’t looking ahead that bothers me… that is a good thing… it is how it’s said that bothers me… We have a long way to go is not positive thinking, the words “long way to go”… can be depressing and discouraging and I don’t believe it is healthy to think that way.. It is not looking ahead and being positive, it is making the possible seem impossible... I think saying: Things will keep on improving…is better.
Words are powerful and how we use them can create or destroy!
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i asked my better half, keaton, a similar question, which i blogged (but i'll spare you the link).
i asked her, what makes women tick?
she said, the joy of life itself.
so i said, wow, ya mean it's not becoming man's equal?
and she said, walking upright is about as equal as we want to get, the rest you can keep.
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According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in 2005, women in America still earn on average 78 cents for every dollar paid to men, and 31% of Americans living in poverty are women, who head single parent families.
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Yes the data is available online.
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Women and Men are absolutely equal albeit quite different.
individually though, I must say I am second to my wife, however she will say the opposite!... which is why she is absolutely perfect!-
that's cute.
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I would also like to point out that in the Tarot,
it is the Empress that comes before the Emperor.
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Unfortunately I think this is because the empress is of a lower value than the emperor and thus comes first numerically.
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@diabolicomix...lower value numerically???
SAYS WHO....LMAO
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women er bettar then men bc more fit live longer and jst get bat societal rap -
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@superina29
Excuse me but your blog link has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of this thread. Please don't drop irrelevant links into threads. www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/read-before-posting-1
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I think Men and Women should be treated equally..
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So do I.
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ya,all should be given equal opportunities & equal rights. Afterall all are human.
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So, the discussion is becoming more hot day by day. I am happy that there are some minds who are so much conscious about the things that had covered the eyes of the people & that cover remained on their eyes from a long time & still it's there.
I India too, the social & religious myth still exists. Sati, Bal Vadhu (Child Marriage) etc often becomes the Media's interest & newspaper headlines.
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Its funny, I just wrote a blog about that last night at eachotherskeeper.blogspot.com.
I go by this motto: "Because I am a woman, I must make unusual efforts to succeed. If I fail, no one will say, ":She doesn't have what it takes"; They will say, "Women don't have what it takes"; - Anonymous
I think that without a woman a man cannot exist. I believe in equality. However, our current culture do not believe in the same thing.-
nice one, 1 should go for that,,
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I work for Walmart. I'm going to approach this from a kind of "strength" perspective.
Women are just as mentally strong if not more-so than guys. The workload they can handle is dependent on their attitude and outlook. If they are confident in their abilities, they can outwork many when it comes to work. I've seen women unload trucks, push carts, stock shelves, and manage departments better than guys at times.. Again, it comes down to the individuals. I've seen some women, as well as some guys, working while receiving calls on their phones and BSing about god knows what, take extra long breaks, and not care about their workloads. Again, it's an individual thing and it's kind of unfair to compare women and men based on individual peoples perspectives.
There's no doubt in my mind there is a level of equality and a level of inequality- it just comes down to the frame of mind of the individual and the confidence they can display in their abilities. -
Techprism, I don't know if you remember the Indira Gandhi years. In spite of her detractors, nobody even questioned her towering heads and shoulders above the rest of the male politicians! It was normal, so normal that for us young college students it was a matter of amazement that other countries didn't have the same(not necessarily dressed in a sari). I mean this kind of question would have seemed ri-di-culous! We had her as a symbol and what a symbol. And you come along asking a question like that! India has thousands of women scientists ,technologists, professors and heads of this and that. Even our dear President at the moment,Pratibha Patel is a women. Side by side with the atocities women have made huge progress. Don't you know these kind of women?-
@ ranist
I am not considering India but world as a whole.
The question not goes for a single women but what about women & girls still deprived from the basic requirements. From that time, about 70 decades passed but the in villages girls are kept secluded behinds the door, still not allowed to go for proper education.
I think u have not gone through the views of the different people. First go through that because the discussion has taken a different direction.
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I somewhat agree to odenflagship's long reply on how both genders are different and that we should celebrate our differences. That way, when 'equality' comes into issue, we are almost competing for 'equality'.
Take the example of ancient homosapiens ---> the original cavepeople. The population of human beings wasn't a lot...if the issue of gender inequality existed then, there would have been some sorta gender war or something and god knows what would have become of us. They had better and more important things to do than treat each other bad haha (like make fire). Those people lived in peace and harmony because of their ignorance to what is now known as 'common knowledge'.
We are interdependent on each other. It's a fact. Whether you as women, can lift weights or guys can be fashion designers...doesn't change the fact that we were never 'alpha-male/females'. It is today's society and the exchanging of media that aids changes in such mentalities.
Here's an example of why we as genders can't live without each other...or at least used to. I was told (not sure about the reliability of the source) that women are generally better at multi-tasking than men because in the cavepeople times, the man had ONE objective. Supposedly to go hunt and bring in food. The woman took care of domestic matters..which had more tasks involved...supposedly. (IT IS AN EXAMPLE)
I'm no sexist. I'm NOT saying women in today's era should be domesticated or anything. All I'm saying is that we, as genders, were more peaceful when we 'celebrated' our different qualities. Yes, I believe it is mens' egoistic instincts that has possibly led to the beginning of the 'inequal' society. I admit, we can be shallow because of our egos..it was probably when guys started feeling superior in society because of their alpha-male abilities (hard-heartedness, physical strength, ego and feeling of power) that led to forcing women into 'constraints and inequalities'.
Nowadays, things are changing and I have no idea what it would be like in 50+ years time. Men can still have those alpha-male qualities, but they're not so visible. Society sees that as a bad personality...and since the world is majority female, society = majority females, also play a big role on mens' lives. Like who thought of coming up with shaved bodies as the new thing? :S haha. I'm no alpha-male..but the qualities exist, they're just dormant. I like pink and lime green on my hat and I still love women.
Hmm..I think I've run out of things to say! haha. This is an interesting discussion :D. Keep it up-
thanks for that,,& for ur good views,,
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To the one who says man came first and then the woman in this world, I would like to add that this concept is utterly against the nature. Female has given birth since the conception of humanity and its a bit out of sink to think the first woman was born from the womb of a man? I think there's no such question that who comes second as the truth is woman is the first from the time time itself was born. Not only human but other species are born from the womb of mother earth and not all of them need a helping hand from a male species! The female is magnanimous to surrender their place to male in this day and society but they could flip the situation in no time if so desired:))
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They are not..most of the cases they have proved that they can do what men can do..
but i dont know may be with some men with premature Eja-calculation.
woman 'come' secund
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