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If you had to choose between the two, who would you rather be: a hero or martyr?

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  1. LynneaUrania
    Are they really mutually exclusive?
    1. agapelife
      Exactly! Perhaps some martyrs are not heros.
    2. letter2V
      I think so. A hero doesn't have to die.
  2. agapelife
    What about the soldiers who die in Afghanistan? Hero and heroines?
    1. aningeniousname
      Tools of a corrupt system?
    2. vmaster
      Tools of a corrupt system.
  3. LynneaUrania
    A hero has at least killed his/her/eir own ego so as to get past one's self to even do a heroic act.
    1. letter2V
      Do you have a preference?
    2. LynneaUrania
      And even if a martyr dies, a martyr never dies.
    3. LynneaUrania
      So if a martyr never really dies and a hero must kill his ego, is there really any difference between the living and the dead?
  4. aningeniousname
    For me a martyr has to be a hero first and to be a hero you have to perform a selfless act against all the odds, MLK and Gandhi come to mind as filling this criteria admirably.
    1. letter2V
      Interesting, thanks for sharing.
  5. fruitcake
    Being as I've been craving a full-body massage, I think I'd rather be a hero. I'd be more apt to receive one and alive to enjoy it.
  6. IntoTheAzureSea
    Being a hero means having to live with certain burdens and enjoy several privileges. It is basically a tiring, crusading life with having higher ideals as your constant companion.

    Being a matyr is to give up one's life for an ideal, hoping to achieve a greater colleteral beneficial effect for one's cause. Though this should really be a last resort, it is not the case for the contemporary world. I would see it to be idealistic suicide..............if the person in question has much more to give to a cause before his time ends.
  7. Hangingonahyphen
    Neither. I'd be happy to be just plain simple me who lived a good life.
  8. wehireu
    A hero lives through the process. A martyr dies. I am not into being dead.
  9. MadScientist
    A hero is someone willing to die for a cause, and a martyr is someone who does.

    I think that a martyr is generally made through someone else's actions. For example... if a person is killed for thier beliefe versus killing one's self.

    IE. Suicide Bomber... NOT Martyr... IDIOT.... US Soldier Captured and executed on video...definitely Martyr

    The martyrdom is thrust upon them, and usually it has the opposite of the intended effect. Instead of sowing fear... it generally galvanizes the opposing force or ideal against the enemy. It serves as a rally cry or what have you.

    Often political prisoners... or religious leaders, but also human rights and civil rights activists... have been made martyrs. But any cause which has a chance at succeeding must have both... Heros and Martyrs...

    I think I tend to fall with everyone else... being a hero and being alive seem pretty good compared to the alternative.

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