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Would you start a porn site just to make money online?!
Posted by whojaybe • 5/09/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Tags: blogs, Make Money Online, porn site
I'm just curious because I wrote a recent post www.datmoney.com/2008/05/should-you-set-up-a-porn-site-with-porn-affiliate-... about how you can make easy money with a porn site and I got mixed comments.
Surprisingly, there are quite a few people who would definitely set one up to make money online and others wouldn't "sell their soul" by doing stuff like that.
So, my question is (and I get a feeling most of you guys wouldn't): would you start a porn site if you knew you could make great money from it?
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If I had the time to, probably. Let me read your post...-
When we submit sites to Blog Catalog for review we see this right up front:
* No Solely Commercial or Pornographic Material"
Yet, we keep seeing this topic of advertising income from porno posted to the BC forum. I wonder why that is? www.blogcatalog.com/discuss/entry/will-your-sell-your-soul-to-the-devil
You have even posted this thread on this BC forum where no solely commercial pornographic material blogs are accepted for registration in the General Discussion category. Yet, you include a link to your how to make money from a commercial porno site, rather than in the category of Shameless Blog Promotion.
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See, I included a link so people would know what I'm talking about when other commentators and their thoughts on it.
The whole purpose wasn't to talk directly about porn but the morals on if you would potentially "sell your soul" just for money...
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I would, but where would you host the site, and perhaps more importantly, where would you find the pictures or videos, or the live video chats to make it work. Ladies, don't shoot me, money is money and if consenting adults agree to be part of this why not?-
Well, it could be a simple site just full of nude pictures or whatever... or you could start up a site like youporn... but look at how many Blogger blogs there are full of them!
and LOL I get a feeling this thread is going to be deleted... my bad! -
Why would it be deleted? We're discussing a legitimate topic and so far nobody has used bad language unlike a few other threads today (my bad, I keep forgetting to keep my mouth clean).
But you say a few bloggers are already doing this? I haven't seen any of that and if good money can be made where nobody gets hurt and where littlies can't see the stuff then frankly I'd be tempted. Do you have any more information, or a link to more info? -
Well, personally, I do NOT have any porn sites, though, I have DatCurious.com and I've gotten tons of offers. I mean, I know how to set everything up but I'm not exactly sure if I want to do it for some quick cash. Especially since I'm already making some decent money online and I've taken on a few projects that I'm not sure if I would have time for this anyways.
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Hmmm, I've just been looking at your blog, you've got some good stuff there that I'm going to have to study, but I still wanna know more about making money. It would be great if I could quit working for someone else.
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I am still an infant when it comes to marketing...heck my brain feels like mush after reading up on internet marketing for about an hour.
Once I do get a grasp on it, I would/will probably try it out. I have three kids and all of them might want to go to college someday...lol...call it "sex for school"-
Wow, a family man and you're definitely willing to do it. So, I assume you don't have any ethical problems behind it? Or do you just not care? lol
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Yes, I am a family man, happily married, three kids. My main concerns in life are the happiness of my kids, wife, and myself. I have a mortgage, car note, pay my taxes, and all the other typical concerns in life that most of us do. I also have no objection to legal ways of making money.
I am also a big believer in Free Will.
So if I have the choice, and the means, and it is legal...and can keep it away from my kids...then so be it.
But like I said...c-o-l-l-e-g-e = $$$$$$$$$$$$ -
Wow wont your children be happy that daddy set up a porn site just so they could go to college.
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Tempting (money always is), but nope. There are more honorable and productive ways to make money.-
That may be true but a few cents from Google Adsense is not going to pay for anyone's education, and if you want to break out of the life you've been dealt you have to take a chance.
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"Breaking out of the life you've been dealt" by compromising your values won't work.
Of course, I realize that for many people this wouldn't be a compromise in values, but if it would, even a little, then it's the wrong way to make a positive change.
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Nope, not a chance. There are plenty of ways to make easy money if you're willing to compromise (or throw out) your values. I'd rather work for a living and remember who I am and what I'm here for.
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Looking at it from a purely money-making / marketing standpoint, you have to take into consideration the fact that it's already a very crowded market. There might be some money to be made if you have a niche product, something that isn't already out there, but unless you're already the type to be into that sort of thing, where are you going to source it? There is already so much available for free out there, where's the money going to come from?
You could also make the argument that when you get down to it, we're all whores and that everyone has his price, otherwise who would work for salaries and wages, but come on: do you really want your income to be come from pornography? Would you like your daughters to star in porn films? Would you like to see your sons in gay porn? This isn't a moral issue so much as being able to live with yourself night and day. I know I couldn't.-
It's a little off topic for this thread, letters, but I very much disagree with your second point--it's very possible to find paid employment that allows you to do the kinds of things you'd like to be doing anyway and doesn't require any compromise in goals and values.
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Well, it is a very crowded market but then again, it's what takes up the most internet traffic on the entire world wide web. And of course, there are plenty of free sites out there and I can guarantee you that those sites are making some decent chunk of change...
But every female doing porn or naked pics is a daughter... and some people can deal with it, I mean, it's not like you have to be the one doing videos... what if you set up a site and people just added the videos as users of the site? Then would you not be able to sleep at night still? -
MadameX, regarding your reaction to "we're all whores and that everyone has his price, otherwise who would work for salaries and wages...."
I think you are skirting the issue of moral relativism?
The idea that all crimes are arbitrary and equivalent seems to be all the rage in highly-educated circles: and crops up in quite a few other places. The underlying basis for this belief is the assumption that there is no ultimate truth, moral or otherwise.
Admittedly, assuming that anything is okay, and that taking place in a fivesome for pay is equivalent to being paid to answer telephones, is a philosophy which doesn't seem to place many demands on its adherents - with the added bonus that the (self-described) best and brightest in America will applaud you if you follow its precepts. As long as you don't insult their own sensibilities, of course.
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In a sense, Norski, but I think it's more sinister than that, or perhaps simply runs to the more subtle end than is usually recognized. If you equate any paid work with "whoring", as you've mentioned, the onus is suddenly off of us to make moral decisions about what kind of work we accept. The real issue for me, though, isn't in equating prostitution with answering telephones, but in making all answering of telephones equal, though one can answer telephones for a company that promotes good things or for one that actively does harm. I don't think that most of us give much thought to those things, but every job we do produces more than just a paycheck--a positive or negative impact, however slight it might be.
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I must be inhibited and suppressed. Or is it oppressed?
No, I wouldn't.
I have the capability:- 3D software that can create near-perfect images of human beings, animals, or nearly anything else imaginable, in a vast array of positions and combinations
- Training and experience in graphic design and art
- An adequate knowledge of human nature and weaknesses
- Two decades experience in marketing
But I won't make it by creating and marketing pornography. The fundamental problem, as I see it, is that pornography removes the relational and personal aspects of the sexual act - and human sexuality in general. This offends the dignity of the people involved: actors, everyone in the supply chain, and the end user.
People are not objects to be regarded as objects. Not, I think, even virtual people: because the viewer is developing a habit of viewing a quite reasonable facsimile of a human being as an object of non-relational emotional excitement.
Then, there's the animal-rights aspect of some porn: which still affects human beings at one end of the transaction.
That's not that I'm not above making use in the general interest in human sexuality to encourage interest in my work. I also use the general interest in creatures like hummingbirds.
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Right on!
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MadameX: That actually was my point - thanks.
Whojaybe: If you feel it's OK to make money off porn because you aren't the one behind the camera or out hustling the girls, great, but remember the girls have to come from somewhere. A lot of them are forced into it - there is an enormous problem with human trafficking in young women from Russia and the former East Bloc countries. Some end up in prostitution, others porn, or both. You may think there are no victims and you can make money without doing harm off of it, but you're wrong.-
Then if I owned a gun store and someone bought a gun from my store and shot up a school, movie theater, whatever, is that my fault too?
And I want to make things clear just incase anyone has gotten the wrong idea, I do NOT intend on starting a porn website of any sort... I have found various ways of making money online so I don't need to do anything like that. -
In my mind, Whojaybe, that's exactly the kind of thing you have to consider. The gun analogy is a little different, of course, because there are legitimate uses for guns. But even so, when you offer something potentially dangerous for sale you make decisions about how cautious you are, about how carefully you comply with screening requirements, about the standards you impose and the risks you take. And if, in the name of profit, you choose not to be careful about what you put out into the world, then you're definitely responsible for the results.
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Whoa everyone!!!
I said that I would, and everyone else said they would not. That's cool. I know for a fact that there are a few people on this topic who probably do not respect or like me, which is fine also. But I do respect everyone hear. It's who I am.
"whojaybe" just asked if one would start one or not. It wasn't to start on morals, or values, or a spitting contest.
So let's not get agitated by each other. Let's stay friendly, for I think that is part of the reason we are all hear.-
RT, I agree that one of the responses to you above was a bit harsh and directed rather personally, but in a general sense do you really think it's possible to discuss a topic like this and ask people to check their "morals and values" at the door? Aren't they the determining factor for most of us in a question like this?
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MadameX - lol maybe I shouldn't have brought this up... I was just wondering if people would actually start one up just to make money online... I mean, what if they were desperate for money, you know?
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Hey MadameX,
I guess to got me there. I don't know. Maybe I just have my head stuck in the sand. And I guess I should have not used the exclamation marks...LOL...and if you mean the one liner up above towards me? nah, that doesn't offend me. I have been around too long to let that bother me.
I just don't want people to get too upset and run the risk of them not joining other discussions where they might have good input. Like I have said before, I might not agree with someone on an issue or their thoughts, but I will ALWAYS listen to to that person regardless, because I might learn something off of them. I might not agree with your thoughts or views all the time (truth be told, I DO agree with you on lot of issues the you have spoken about), but I always listen to what you have to say.
I know you have experienced personal attacks before on discussions, but I feel confident that you do not lose sleep over it.
But I am also interested in what nardeeisms,Norski, lettershome, and whojaybe have to offer, and don't want them to get so upset where they would not comment on future discussion feeds.
That's what I was trying to get across.
BTW, Happy Mother's Day, MadameX
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As Blog Catalog does not accept or approve blogs that are can be described as being * Solely Commercial or Pornographic Material" and, as the blog post linked to above is loosely speaking a tutorial on how to set up a commercial porno site, I wonder why this is being discussed here at all. www.blogcatalog.com/account.add.php
IMO this topic does not "fit" into General Discussion. It's a Shameless Blog Promotion post which has been incorrectly categorized. "Hey, porn is probably the best money maker on the internet so you know I had to mention it!"
The author alleges that she had to post a porno promotion post on here blog when we know that's nonsense. As far as we know there was no gun placed to her head. Like all bloggers she made a choice as what to write and publish.
BTW my answer to the question is: No way!-
I wrote the post and reread the post, I honestly didn't know it was a "tutorial on how to set up a commericial porno site" but then again, I don't think you actually read it...
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@timethief
Are you the "official" discussion board police of blog catalog? Most of the comments I have seen from you the past few days have all been to quote the rules to the posters. I would rather read 10 spam post than 1 of your complaints. If it's a bad topic just let the moderators deal with it.
As for this topic I think it is very legit. I have stuggled with this same question. It is indeed easy money to set up porn sites but it can make you question your moral values.
I will also say for anyone thinking about getting into porn blogs you should be very careful because there have been several rules put into place over the past few years as far as record keeping that could get you into serious trouble with the government if you don't comply. -
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Your concern about whether or not I had read the post only clarifies why you posted this thread. Your intent was to draw hits to your blog post. This is a Shameless Blog Promotion post.
You knew this post would cause controversy and you counted on that being translated into hits on your post. You got them so your mission has been accomplished.
BTW I have not reported this thread or your posts to it to Admin. I simply wondered out loud about the category selection and, as far as I know, doing that does not constitute any kind of any offense or rule breaking.
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If you think any of my posts to this thread are rule breakers then please take your own advice report them and "let the moderators deal with it." -
I haven't seen this discussion as especially controversial. It's a valid question for people attempting to make a living online, which many active participants here are.
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First of all, I'm a guy, thanks. But okay, I guess that was my mistake for putting a link to my post on my "make money online" and blogging tips blog and NOT putting it into the "shameless promotion" section. Also, don't worry, the 6 hits to my blog isn't going to make a drastic difference to me, I was using it as a back up to what I was saying - the comments on that post.
And yes, I decided to write that post on my blog because I own that blog, writing about making money online (whatever it is) is what I discuss and believe it or not, TONS of people profit from online porn all the time so why shouldn't I mention it?
Even if I didn't put the link, I'm sure you'd be preaching the rule book to me, still.
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MadameX - exactly - I don't see how you can weigh the question of whether or not to set up a site with the goal of making money off porn without considering the human aspect of the activity. These people are not always doing it of their own free will, and to make money off it is perpetuating human misery. Some people don't care about that, obviously, but that's their choice.
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I wouldn't do it and have no plans to do that. But, food for thought:
If you are thinking of doing it, read the T.O.S. of your host provider. A lot of them do not allow stuff like:
(1) porn sites
(2) gambling sites
(3) or even sites that hold illegal .mp3's
Their reactions tend to be swift and definitive. Not only removal of the offending site - but deletion of all your sites on their server. You may need an offshore or a host provider in a foreign country to do that ... and then .. think about that.-
My main goal is to open up a site for sports equipment sales, which I will host myself.
I figure if I have the means to do it at home, I will do it that way.
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Excellent point. It seems that any people do not read the ToS when they sign up for web hosting. From what I hear, finding a host for a commercial porno site is not all that easy and it's not cheap either. The demand for porno aka masturbatory material is high, the bandwidth use is high so, the web hosting fees are also high.
FWIW the notion of having a commercial porno site to pay for kid's college education, while hiding it from the kids speaks volumes. Children learn their morals from the behavior and attitudes of their parents.'Nuff said.
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Hey MadameX,
I guess to got me there. I don't know. Maybe I just have my head stuck in the sand. And I guess I should have not used the exclamation marks...LOL...and if you mean the one liner up above towards me? nah, that doesn't offend me. I have been around too long to let that bother me.
I just don't want people to get too upset and run the risk of them not joining other discussions where they might have good input. Like I have said before, I might not agree with someone on an issue or their thoughts, but I will ALWAYS listen to to that person regardless, because I might learn something off of them. I might not agree with your thoughts or views all the time (truth be told, I DO agree with you on lot of issues the you have spoken about), but I always listen to what you have to say.
I know you have experienced personal attacks before on discussions, but I feel confident that you do not lose sleep over it.
But I am also interested in what nardeeisms,Norski, lettershome, and whojaybe have to offer, and don't want them to get so upset where they would not comment on future discussion feeds.
That's what I was trying to get across.
BTW, Happy Mother's Day, MadameX-
Thank you, RT.
I think that all of the people you've mentioned are mature enough not to let intelligent disagreement put them off future discussions.
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I personally think everyone who said " no time " for the porn site would do it
Would i do it to make some quick cash? Sure it's legal. Would I "sell my soul for some quick cash"? never, they ( the porn stars ) are selling their *** for the money, I am just getting paid.
When you have to make a choice between eating and having a roof over your head and keeping a website updated for a profit. Profit comes first.-
I acknowledge that you have that opinion.
But, incredible as it may seem, monetary profit does not always come first.
There are, literally, "worse fates than death." I know: that's not a fashionable idea right now, but it is still true.
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No, even if I was desperate for the money I wouldn't. There are better ways to make a living, there are better choices to be made to keep a roof over your head. Having said that, I also think people should be free to do as they wish so long as it doesn't hurt others. -
No, I wouldn't set up a porn site. -
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But oddly enough..I did get an offer the other day to be in a film with a lady friend of mine...
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Morality is relative to the person making the decision. The person that would make the decision to start the porn site, religion being beside the point, would not have a problem with his/her decision. It was a business move. The person having a difficult decision may have problems with the issue far removed from religious or moral. Ultimately you are the product of the decisions that you make. The decisions that you make are a product of the result you have become. To be successful at whatever you do you have to be "all" in. If you have issues with what you are doing you cannot be successful. -
Most definitely. I actually intend to start a porn site, I'm just looking over the legal aspects involved.-
I do think the "selling your soul" line is nothing more than overblown rhetoric. I have no axe to grind when it comes to adults viewing porn. It's not illegal and it's none of my business.
I have no concerns about adults viewing erotic photos either. IMO there are distinct differences between the human body being used as a theme in art (erotica) and, porno, which tends to feature only specific "body parts" and sexual acts.
However, my response to the question stands. The question is: Would you start a porn site just to make money online?!
My answer is: I would NOT choose to have a porno blog and I would I NOT choose to have porno ads on my mainstream blog sites either. -
Porn is selling images of other people's bodies. I agree that porn images or even adverts are not appropriate for mainstream blogs. It's pointless to put them there in the first place.
People looking for porn won't be looking there, people who want to avoid porn won't want it there. Wrong target market
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I don't know why this is considered "Selling your soul". I have a good friend that is one of the most normal, down to earth guys I know. He made millions selling porn on the internet. Now, the market is saturated but he began in the early 80's.
He used the money to pay for his college and start his own web design company. Just because he made money off of internet pervs doesn't mean that he is one. He's just a smart business man.-
Regarding "I don't know why this is considered 'Selling your soul'." -
I'm going to treat that as a serious question, rather than the rhetorical one I suspect it was.
First, "selling your soul" is a rather over-the-top expression, in my opinion: one that I wouldn't use in this context.
Second, I have no doubt that good money can be made in pornography, and that it is possible to use that money for good purposes. (Two meanings of the word 'good' there - sloppy writing, but let it pass, please.)
However, using the money for a reasonable purpose does not make the means by which is was gained reasonable. For (an unlikely) example, if I made a million dollars by selling narcotic baby food, and then used the money to open an inner-city day care, or save the koalas, or for some other worthy cause, would that affect the propriety of the way I made the money in the first place?
"End justifies the means" is a debatable idea.
Finally, in answer to your question: Although I wouldn't use the "selling your soul" statement, I don't believe that pornography is a good idea. My own starting idea is that it violates the dignity of the person.
There's more at www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art6.htm - (warning that's a page on the U.S. Catholic Bishops' website. Persons not desiring exposure to Catholic ideas should not follow that link.)
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Well, making narcotic baby food is illegal. Selling adult content to consenting adults is not. Don't compare apples to oranges with me.
From a religious standpoint, it is all debatable. I once built a house for a lesbian couple. Should I be ashamed of myself for making money because the catholic church does not approve of their lifestyle? What about the fireplace I built for the drug lord?
Some lines have to be drawn and for me those lines are determined by the laws and not what people might think. Personally, I would not want to sell porn on the internet or any other media. But, I don't look down on those who do, nor do I consider it "Selling your soul". -
ekim941,
Actually, the porn industry dances near the edge of legality. I'm not talking about girlie magazines, but media with more, ah, inventive content.
That aside, agreed. I was doing an apples and oranges thing:
And, I'm not so concerned about the legality of an act, as I am about what it does to a person.
That's where the "religious" thing came in.
The reason I made the comment was to provide a link to a resource where you could find an answer to your implied question, "I don't know why this is considered 'Selling your soul'."
If you don't want to find out, you don't. But, I was somewhat obligated to provide you the means.
As to "Should I be ashamed of myself ...." That's strictly up to you. If you ever decided to accept the teachings of the Church, then it would be more of an issue.
As it is, since you are not Catholic, it would be unreasonable for you to feel shame or guilt for actions which are in accord with your own beliefs, but not with what the Church says.
Finally, and again, my intent was to provide a means of increasing knowledge. Whether you or anyone else makes use of that means is strictly up to you. -
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I definitely agree that exploiting people is not decent. However, if you are talking about consenting adults who are not conducting anything illegal, I have no problem with porn.
I personally do not think porn in it's broad definition is demeaning to your body or your soul. Of course there is more inventive content out there which is questionable.
Furthermore, those who do not wish to see porn should not be exposed to it. Even if your reasons for being against porn are religious, you deserve not to be bothered by porn.
And the difference between the drug lords and the government is that the drug lords are organised.
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I tried. But the market for nude shots of 50 year old, out of shape, rural humor bloggers was flat. And my wife won't let me take any pictures of her.-
Unlike you, I am in shape: roughly the shape of a sack of potatoes, with a couple of flower sacks on top.
Taking a nude self-portrait?! Good heavens, now I'll have to try washing debris from that though off the walls of my mind.
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Oops. Bad clicking.
As long as I'm here, I ought to say something.
Donlewis's comment got me thinking. Not about this thread's topic, something completely different.
Sorry, got nothing for here, for now.-
I knew right away that you took my question to be rhetorical, which it was. Like I said, I would not sell porn, drugs, etc. I earn a living by building and improving buildings.
And, No, I do not take umbrage with the ways that folks make their money. I have kids to feed and I make my money honestly.
I can respect the fact that you are providing guidance for those who may struggle with coming to terms with these types of issues.
I think I'm all set but thanks for the offer -
You're welcome for the 'offer' - And for taking it for the optional 'more data at ...' reply that it was.
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Hoo ha. These comments and replies are getting mixed up.
Sorry 'bout clicking the wrong button there.
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Sorry to mess up your train of thought. Happens to me every morning when I see myself in the bathroom mirror.
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Don, my train of thought has been derailed for quite some time.
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Negative. I think porn is degrading.
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