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I have been finding increasingly little of value here when I check in. The "debates" continue to be about whether or not the government has a role to play in the current economic crisis, environmental policy, and so on, but that issue has been decided, at least for the foreseeable future. The question now is not what role government has to play, but what specific policies it needs to implement. Listening to unreconstructed radical right-wingers complain about any policy because it is a policy just doesn't do it for me.

According to one Gallup Poll (www.gallup.com/poll/118528/GOP-Losses-Span-Nearly-Demographic-Groups.aspx), it would seem that I am not alone in this sentiment, insofar as the GOP is getting "purer" and becoming more like the far right here. But I suppose the incorrigible haters of the commonweal need a place to rant. I just don't feel like arguing with them when they do it. More power to those of you who still can.

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    1. clioandme
      case in point
    2. thelibertylight
      How trite, I am still waiting.
    3. anticsrocks
      liberty! You are using way too many multiple syllable words!! You want to lose your standing as a witless hate monger??!!
    4. thelibertylight
      You are right, sometimes my capacity to hate gets the best of me.
    5. anticsrocks
      liberty, I read your post and I can verify that you used no curse words or slurs of any type. You DID however use really big words that have really important meanings. Shame on you!
    6. anticsrocks
      comment removed by the community

      (I didn't want you to feel left out, liberty)
  1. omiller
    Man... I'm always late to the party... I always get there after the hot chicks make out and the owner falls off the balcony and the couch is on fire.

    In other words, what was the deleted first comment? I hope it wasn't that thing about If you play "Yes We Can" backwards you get "Hail Satan," because I'm a big fan of Bob the Builder.
  2. thelibertylight
    I merely stated that if the presenter of this thread purveys a superior acumen, with respect to political insight, please let us share in it. I guess blogcatalog prefers a type of free speech it can mandate, or the author of this thread complained. Either way, I am awaiting his response.
    1. satijournal
      There is no freedom of speech in a private forum. They can mandate anything they want and ban you if you don't like it.
  3. satijournal
    I agree with you, Marc. The radical-right has taken over the political discussion board and honest debate has become a thing of the past. I miss it.
    1. thelibertylight
      How disingenuous of you. Tell you what, just between you and I, let us have a debate on economic theory and its relevance to our current political construct. Shall we pick applied economics, positive economics, normative economics, heterodox economics, or mainstream economics? Or would you rather go by the various schools of economics; Austrian school, Chicago school, Keynesian theory, Lausanne school, or whatever school of thought you prescribe to. Whatever method you choose they are interrelated, so it makes no difference. Let me know when you are ready, I am.
    2. anticsrocks
      Can I watch??!!

      *gets popcorn and root beer ready*
  4. thelibertylight
    That may be, but I used neither pejoratives or expletives in my post, as I have seen on other discussion threads. Equitable treatment should be the course, and if not, then perhaps even more specificity should be cited on what is prohibited. I have seen you, Sati, berate certain individuals here without reprimand.
    1. satijournal
      That's the typical republican debate technique: act like an assh*le and then play the victim. I never throw the first punch but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone insult me without hitting back.
    2. thelibertylight
      Tisk, tisk Sati, your responses were never directly proportionate. You might have not thrown the first punch, but you instigated nicely. I would not classify your responses as intellectual retorts, you do not lack the capacity, but you fail at execution. I have never acted like an assh*le towards you, I am certainly no victim, and I can hold my own. When shall we have our debate?
    3. anticsrocks
      SOMEBODY must have a little notepad next to his computer...

      "...and I was severely insulted on May 14th, 2009."

      liberty, after you look at sati's post, try this one...

      www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/fox-news-misleads-the-public#com...
  5. thelibertylight
    What, f-ers stands for fantastic persons....
    1. thelibertylight
      When is our debate?
    2. anticsrocks
      Knowing sati, prolly the second Tuesday of next week...
    3. satijournal
      When is our debate?

      Today. What's the topic?
    4. satijournal
      Possible topics:

      The closing of Guantanamo
      The new credit card rules
      Linux vs. Windows
    5. thelibertylight
      See comment number twelve.
    6. anticsrocks
      prolly=probably

      I have two teenagers here in my house and so I have been exposed to txting shorthand.
  6. clioandme
    Maybe I give the GOP too much credit. Sometimes I think they're better than the worst of their uncivil adherents in places like this, but then I read about politicians calling Speaker Pelosi a hag and pu**y (www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22882.html), which is entirely consistent with the tone here of late. Mudslinging is a time-honored, if dishonorable tradition in this country, but this is ridiculous. Remember the party that was crying sexism last August and September? Such short memories. Course no one bought that line back then . . .
    1. thelibertylight
      Thank you professor.
    2. satijournal
      Republicans don't care about our country. The only thing that matters to them is appearing strong on security (which is only a facade), and helping the rich get richer. When you look at the history of the GOP, you see a century of disgrace and damage, and they're at one of their lowest -- if not THE lowest point in history right now. Yet you still have these sheep who'll defend them for purely ideological reasons. It's like some kind of game to them. That's why, in every debate with a republican, they ALWAYS, without fail, resort to insults, and then when they get the same in return, they start whimpering like little girls.
    3. thelibertylight
      Wow, someone drank their Ensure and is feeling friiiisky.....
    4. satijournal
      Ensure? What the hell is that? lol!
    5. anticsrocks
      Hmmmm, it was the Republicans that were against slavery...
    6. satijournal
      That's true. That's why I said "a century of disgrace and damage." The Republican party of the 1800s is nothing like that of the past century.
    7. Agit8r
      The surviving Radical Republicans left the party when it became purely corporatist. They lent their support to the leftish Democratic candidate Harace Greeley

      btw Sati: Ensure is what they allow "enemy combatants" to subsist on
  7. clioandme
    I notice that the political "debates" here continue to be framed by the far right. It simply becomes a matter of "limited government" versus everyone else, and this focus blankets over the real political debates that the rest of us (from a little right of center all the way to the left) have to have on a host of issues. Too bad. This might not mean that "Rush and Newt are winning" (www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/e-j-dionne-has-a-point), but it certainly means that intelligent discourse on policy in this venue is pretty much impossible.
    1. clioandme
      By the way, I don't dispute the far right's need to discuss the role of government, and I don't dispute the potential value of such a debate. (That's what the last election was about, to a great extent.) But I do question the need to hash this topic out in every single thread we have to the point where it drowns everything else out.
    2. anticsrocks
      @mark, I think that if we had more limited government, then posts like these would be....I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

  8. libertycast1
    All I'm going to say is that the Constitution already states what roles the government can play. Now if we can only get people to read it and abide by it.
  9. jeremyjanson
    Ah, but you are wrong. There are midterm elections in just over a year, and judging from the unexpectedly large anti-Obama tea-party protests and unexpectedly weak liberal polling in great conservative strongholds like Washington State and Connecticut, not to mention the fact that on the West Coast the thrill may just be gone, Obama could be in some real trouble if the GOP gets it's act together. So, let's get our act together.

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