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Do you think osama is alive?
Posted by pices2004 • 10/21/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: pakistani politics, plotics
Western world is continiously finding OSAMA. I think may be water or in cave. This war made several OSAMA, What is hapenning to finish OSAMA. Can they finish? and now America is trying to nagotiate them when Pakistan fights them. India also tease on this accasion. India should incourage Pakistan. India knows all the scenario.
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May be, and may be in Waziristan where operation is going on. Or I think America use this man to attack. what do u think?
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wow. if a Democrat controlled gov't caught Osama, that would be worth some serious d***-measuring points in 2010... -
@pices...I think he is dead. And yes, we did attack Al Quaeda because of him. What is wrong with that? We attacked Japan because of the, well Japanese. Anything wrong with fighting against those who attack us? After all, even the anointed one, Barack Hussein Obama called it a war of necessity.
@Agit8r...I think that not even that could save the Democratic Party in '10. But seriously, according to Obama, the economy is due to Bush, the unemployment situation is due to Bush, so if they found Osama do you think El Presidente would say it was due to Bush?
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well sure. They couldn't have caught him if he had never gotten away...
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Exactly right Agit8r. Too bad Clinton passed on bringing him in.
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Nobody can escape from God.
anticsrocks You are right, senario is same in Pakistan current party says all mistakes happend in previouse government of Pervaize Musharraf like energy, inflation etc... terrorism It is realy a great threat to the world. let me tell you we are ahmadi muslims. We are the most apponent of their so called Jihad. Meaning of jihad drived from the arabic word jahed means to struggle for our own ethical improvement. They have no right to say why other is doing wrong. They are killing our thousands of innocent ahmadies from 1935 to till today. My friend Dr. Hameedullah killed by AlQaeda 2years ago. refer this website for your reference www.thepersecution.org/nr/2003/may2003.html And we did not killed even did not say any wrong words for them. We always pray for developed pakistan. Let me tell you here in Pakistan nobody like political mullahs now. Here is lot of discussion people can mind and I stopped.-
I will pray for you and your situation, pices. You are right, terrorism is a global threat that should be dealt with by all countries.
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Osama may be alive or he may not. However what is important here is that America continues to fight the war on terrorism and come up with a new strategy. America seems so fixated on Afghanistan and Iraq that it is starting to distract us from the real goal. Terrorists move and though there are still many problems in Afghanistan and Iraq, we do need to follow the terrorists wherever they may be. Thus why America needs a new strategy and Obama needs to stop worrying about what political effect this war will have on his presidency and implement a new strategy for winning this war.-
Afghanistan is hardly a distraction, especially when taken together with it's populous and strategically important nuclear neighbor, Pakistan.
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oh great RM... The clear-hold-build-the-world argument
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No, not build the world. I think your misunderstanding me. The goal of this war is to catch Osama Bin Ladin, and eliminate the terrorist network Al Qaeda right? Well, unfortunately Al Qaeda is not limited to Afghanistan, thus why it is a distraction (in a metaphorical sense). Now this does not mean that America needs to send massive amounts of troops into every country and overthrow their governments.
However, America could work with the other governments, utilizing black ops, the CIA, and other means and go about this in a more...covert way. This is just one method that could be used. However to focus on holding Afghanistan's hand through this process will not work either.
The point is that President Obama needs to decided what the goal is and how he is going to implement the strategy that will accomplish it otherwise this military operation is pointless and we might as well just pull out completely. Simply fighting in Afghanistan hasn't been working thus far in combating terrorism so obviously we need to do something different. -
I agree about black ops. That's what they are there for.
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You are right but developement in Afghanistan is necessary. America Need their hapiness that can only come from their developement. I know no body among them is good skill worker of any profession. Train them and use them in civil work. Atleat help them to open a shop. This cannot happen in a year. There whole society can be changed through this after 3-4 years. They think America only destroy homes, takes lives for 1 terrorist, use drawn planes 1 terrorist dead and tens of innocent dead.
Think even UK could not ruled on them and after facing great ressistence they have to sign boundry documents. Russia could not beat them even in nabour. Therefore do not take them easy.
Pakistan is also facing too much difficulties, their industry have no CNG to produce energy for production. Thats why they wanted to import from nearer iran. America says Pakistan should not buy from Iran. Why?? -
Osama Bin Ladin is not a just person anymore it is a name US are legalized to kill people anywhere in the world.-
So you are okay with the evil, despicable things that Osama Bin Laden, as the iconic head of the Muslim Terrorist movement has promoted? You are okay with his advocacy of the killing of innocent people when he sends suicide and homicide bombers into civilian areas?
And if by "kill people anywhere in the world." you mean killing terrorists, how is that a bad thing? They cannot be rehabilitated, not after being raised from birth to hate the west, America in particular.
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I assumed he was referring to, say, 100,000 Iraqi civillians?
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So he is saying that we wanted to use Bin Laden for the genocide of Iraqis? Does that even sound plausible to you, Agit8r?
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I'm not prepared to speculate further on what Weblogian might have meant. But it is pretty obvious from all the information that we now have, that the Bushites used a spurious link with Bin Laden as reason to create a secular Babylon in order to fulfill their superstitious notions. That I am prepared to say
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To think that the Bush admin used the deaths of 3,000 Americans to invade a country is a position that I would think an anarchist might take. Being ideologically opposed to someone's political stance is one thing, to accuse them of genocide is quite another. I abhor Obama's policies and his politics, yet I do not think he would use a similar issue to what we are talking about just to invade a country in order to commit genocide. That is asinine.
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I don't think he thought of it as genocide, just collateral damage. Surely he thought that this was a small sacrifice so that the rest of the Iraqi people could live under Mexican-style democracy
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Well you might think that, but I believe that Bush actually subscribes to the idea that bringing democracy to oppressed peoples is a good thing, not only for them, but for America as well. The more democracies in the world, the better off the world will be.
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I might be able to beleive that, if his domestic policies weren't so antithetic to (lower case "r") republican ideals
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I was never a fan of Bush's domestic policies. That whole giving up the free market system to save it BS was just that - BS. But really that is no different than a moderate Democrat being hawkish on foreign policy. Kind of the mirror image, so to speak.
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this I can agree with. Bush and John Kerry (or Rahm Emmanuel) are not much different when we get down to it
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Common ground, you gotta love it. And we didn't even resort to calling each other poopy heads.
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American people and muslims are same they both don't know what the hell is going on. And the hell is money not religius. No boby gives his life for money. They threat their family. So it is proved that super powers are killing people by using state actors. Their aim is to create supply gap. Political Mullas are devil/agent in muslim countries. Pakistani people are paying money only for rejecting Mullas or Political muslim institutions. It is the fact everydoby knows now. America and some people dont want pakistan as Muslim atomic power. They want to realize that they are unsave. Mullah are only spreading hate not love and brotherhood. They just want fight fight fight. But common Mullahs who are in majority having no connection with politics are OK.
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He's either in Beverly Hills with the Dali Lama or he never existed in the first place.
Or maybe on the moon? I hear the US been firing rockets over that way. -
osama bin laden is still alive, and they are planning again of a big attack on european and american soil. Big explosion that can devestate a big city. (oil depot explosion)
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Yeah I agree, why are they fire rocket over the moon. I think face is just like of osama, but clean shaved.
They are actualy robber, bank robbers, Their network is dangrious
I agree but what America did to control drugs business in Afghanistan.
I think they are spreading it.
In terrosirt/Taliban time they did actualy a one great work of finishing drug business. But now they are hell, and Pakistani Army
is killing and sending them to their home, hell!!!! -
I believe he is still alive.
The myth that he was death was released by Bush administration to that people could say his war aganist "terrorism" had, after all that deaths, spents and destruction, some good results. -
Hi, again. Please give some commints.
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