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Contrary to what liberals may tell you. Glen Beck is still relevant and had the highest rated show in the 5 PM slot for August 26th.

See for yourself:

tvbythenumbers.com/2009/08/27/big-beck-goes-over-3-million-viewers-beats-or...

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  1. csiunatc
    Just because ACORN Goes on a rampage against him doesn't mean they are the majority.

    People are still watching, and i bet his ratings will be through the roof tonight.
    1. RuinousRight
      Sorry to break this to you CSI, but ACORN is not the only group fed up with the sensationalized rhetoric and race baiting coming from Beck. There are many who see his rhetoric as dishonest and dangerous.

      Certainly, the former alcoholic rodeo clown has the right to say what he wants, but those who wish to diminish his influence have an equal right to voice their opinions with their wallets.
    2. csiunatc
      Sorry to break this to you Ruinous, but he is the higest rated show because more people are fed up with the dangerous dishonesty of the Obama Administration.
    3. RuinousRight
      It's more likely that the far right finds comfort in his extremest and paranoid views. Most sensible people have other things to do during his time slot.
    4. anticsrocks
      Or maybe people find him entertaining.
  2. MadameX
    Well, why would his ratings suffer? The people who listen to him for the most part agree with him, and the people protesting for the most part never were.
    1. cooper
      Exactly MX, the people who watch him agree with him, other peope do not watch him. The advertisers are taking more of a moral stance it won't affect ratings he has a large following.
    2. polybore
      Yep that is it.
  3. csiunatc
    The funny thing is that Glenn Beck Preaches ONE thing all the time.

    Question everything, Even me (him)...

    So he is telling people not to take his word for things, but to question him as well as everything else. Which for most people would be a good thing.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXfZPgrokJ8&feature=related

    Question with Boldness,

    Hold to the truth

    Speak without fear

    These are all three good and healthy things to live by.

    But i guess Obamaites are deathly afraid of people that Question everything, Hold to the truth, and Speak Freely and without fear.
    1. clioandme
      Beck preaches a couple other things too, most notably racism and fear.
    2. Agit8r
      hmmm... he seemed a little less enthusiastic when people "questioned everything" during the Bush administration... back then people who questioned were "terrorists"
    3. csiunatc
      Oh, you mean something like Rev. Wright? Fear and racism.. With a heaping of hate thrown in for good measure.

      No, i don't see anything close to that.
    4. csiunatc
      mark.. Im waiting for you to explain how Beck Preaches Racism?
    5. clioandme
      On how many threads would you have me post the same links and argue the same points?
    6. MadameX
      "But i guess Obamaites are deathly afraid of people that Question everything, Hold to the truth, and Speak Freely and without fear."

      Wait, you think saying those words equates with executing the actions?
    7. csiunatc
      I haven't asked you to explain your statement that Beck Preaches Racism on ANY other thread. I know you think you can pretend that I have, and thus weasel your way out of explaining that one, But not so fast.

      If you can't come up with a thread where i've asked this before, then please Explain away.

      You said he preaches Racism, i'd like to see some evidence of this.
    8. csiunatc
      Twiddles thumbs....
    9. csiunatc
      Well I'm tired of it, so im going to point it out wherever he posts next.
    10. clioandme
      I don't mind debating conservatives, if they're well informed and intellectually honest.
  4. anticsrocks
    My only problem with Beck is that he uses other people's work without attribution. He took an entire paragraph from Mark Levin's book, Liberty and Tyranny and never even gave attribution. To me that is dishonorable. I believe that Beck does this to goad Mark Levin into calling him on it, thereby tapping into Levin's much, much larger audience.
  5. csiunatc
    Mediamatters

    A non-profit progressive research and information center

    Laprogressive...

    umm do i need to spell it out?

    Let's see if i can find a Far right site that doesn't like Rachel Madcow..
    1. Agit8r
      Ok, so the palermo article ended in exageration.

      the media matters one shows footage to back it up.
    2. csiunatc
      Yes and I totally agree with him.

      He is against the SMALL GROUP among the masses of both 9/11 victims and Katrina Survivors that act like complete di-kwads. he says so repeatedly, the quotation of him ends with.

      "It's just a small percentage of those who were left in New Orleans, or who decided to stay in New Orleans, and they're getting all the attention. It's exactly like the 9-11 victims' families. There's about 10 of them that are spoiling it for everybody.

      So, not liking how some of them act, is the same as "Hating everybody" to you?

      Please, explain how that works...
    3. Agit8r
      so people who trivialize the Holocaust can have their say, but those who are on the recieving end of government negligence do not?
    4. csiunatc
      Absolutely not, did i ever say that they should be silenced?

      I also said that I reserve my rights to think whatever i want about them.

      You seem to confuse the right to say what's on your mind with some clouded idea that everyone should LIKE what you have to say...
    5. Agit8r
      so it is OK to propagate hatred toward them?
    6. csiunatc
      Propagate?

      he is talking about how HE feels about them. How is that propagating it? He states so clearly.

      Did you even pay attention, do I have to cut and pate the quotes here?
    7. Agit8r
      but he has that creepy eye-hypnosis system
    8. csiunatc
      What is a little scary in this entire witch-hunt is that none of the claims as to what he "does" holds water.

      But the lefties are just as happy to claim actions on his part to make their point.

      So one has to wonder, since he isn't doing what they say he does, what is the real reason for wanting him off the air?
  6. RuinousRight
    I don't watch the show, but I did enjoy his latest music video:

    vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks#6264315

  7. macwilliams
    Okay:

    1. Glenn Beck is not relevant. He is an entertainer. He is the television version of a Shock Jock (something like a Neocon Howard Stern). I'm not even sure HE believes some of the crap he says.
    2. Doesn't matter what his ratings are. If his advertisers pull out, there is no one to pay for the air time and production costs his show takes to produce.
    3. Remember, in the end, it's money is the only commodity in play here. FOX doesn't care what he says or what he does as long as the cash register is ringing. The minute the register goes silent, Glenn is gone.
  8. clioandme
    A couple people wonder why I would accuse Beck of fear-mongering and racism. RR posted some links on another thread, and they're worth repeating on as many threads as his name pops up: www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/militia-movement#comment_1082734

    Fear? Try this war-gaming episode: www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/militia-movement#comment_1085680

    Racism? Try his limited understanding of race as demonstrated by his accusing Obama of racism. Maybe he's not a racist, but he certainly doesn't get what racism is, and he has not problem with race bating. But people have been through all this in that one thread where one guy here insisted on calling our newest Supreme Court justice a racist.
    1. csiunatc
      Utter hogwash.

      That you use "Race baiting" as a copout is a perfect example of why your accusations are pointless. Not to mention without merit.

      Race Baiting is partally defined as "accusing someone else of being racially motivated". Which makes you a race baiter for doing it as well.

      You started out saying he preaces Fear and racism, and you support this by saying in the link you posted to that his war-game episode is preaching fear, of course his caveat nullifies that. But you counter with saying that his caveat is inflammatory too. In other words even with a caveat of things being completely academic and theoretical one can't discuss certain things.

      This is the policy of those that want to stop independent thinking, no matter what you say, no matter what your approach, merely discussing certain topics makes one a fear mongerer.

      Coming from an academian, I would find that to be surprising if i didn't know it was you.

      And again, You claimed he preached racism, but you can of course not prove any of it, so the best you can do is to claim that he is a race baiter because he is calling someone else a racist.

      This term is the rhetorical equivalent of an elementary school students approach to flatulence. (He Who smellt it - dealt it)

      No, someone who claims that another is motivated by something isn't himself necessarily motivated by the same.

      Lest we make the same argument that you are motivated by spreading fear and racism just because you claim someone else is.
    2. RuinousRight
      It really doesn't matter what evidence people provide, you and another far right BC member here will refuse to accept it. You both share very distorted interpretations of racism based on past comments - especially those relating to Sotomayor and Obama.
    3. csiunatc
      The same argument can easily be said about you.

      Your arguments are constantly that unless one agrees with your view, one simply doesn't understand race and or racism, when of course it would stand to scrutiny that you are the one that doesn't understand it since you fail to see that others may have differing opinions.

      Yes, i said that someone who says a person with a certain Ethnicity would be BETTER at someone is a racist considering that the definition of racism is someone who holds an inherent view of one race's superiority.

      And someone who uses terminology like "typical White/Black/Yellow person" is pretty clearly showing their willingness to generalize behavior based on nothing but race.

      So yes, I stand by those statements. Held to any candle, my reasoning holds water. Only when someone who doesn't want to understand reviews them, do they fail.
  9. RuinousRight
    ROTFLMAO!

    Must see: Glenn Beck on U.S. health care:

    www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation

    I guess he is talking out of his...
    1. clioandme
      And the worst part? He was talking in 2008, not all that long ago.
    2. csiunatc
      So he changed his tune.

      Why didn't you have a problem with that when Obama did it?

      www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/obama-truth-doesnt-matter#commen...

      Oh I forget, it was THE ONE that time.. never mind...

      /Facepalm
    3. RuinousRight
      I don't have a problem with him changing his 'tune', but you should.

      Based on logic in your world Glenn Beck is a liar not to be trusted.
    4. clioandme
      Regarding your first question to RR, you've spent a fair amount of time in this thread defending Beck and attacking his detractors. Whether that amounts to "trust", however you might understand that word, is irrelevant.

      Your second, rhetorical question doesn't make sense in reference to RR's remarks.
    5. csiunatc
      I Trust him to give me HIS opinion, he has always been consistent in that.

      I believe in his right to do so. It's an integral part of both freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

      I will defend that right, especially when people like you make false claims and then completely refuse / fail to back them up. That just shows that the existence of someone that argues self thought is dangerous to those that believe what you do.

      And i trust him to give me questions, questions that I myself can answer by research and reasoning.

      I never said i trusted HIS opinions.

      Gues that's hard for to understand for those that loyally follow without question anything that comes out of Obamas camp.
    6. anticsrocks
      Funny video. Just shows how Beck is an entertainer, changing his opinion to suit his show(s). He has every right to be on the airwaves, just like Keith Overbite on his show Countdown - which by the way, has less viewers than airport radar AND sonograms put together.

      Look, anyone who takes Beck seriously is as naive as someone who gets their news from the Daily Show. No offense, mark.
    7. clioandme
      No one is questioning his right to be on the air. They're just asserting their right not to buy products from his sponsors.

      And I'm happy you purport not to take him seriously. Only there's strong overlap between the views he's expressed and those of most right-wing participants on this board.

      No offense, antics.
    8. anticsrocks
      None taken mark, Beck just sees a groundswell of Conservative values and is trying to capitalize on it. To me, that is a compliment that he sees the ascendancy of Conservatism. I don't care how crazy he is, just like you don't care how moronic Keith Overbite is, or at least I hope you don't care.

      To me, Beck is kinda like those wind socks you see at the airport. He may be made up with all crazy colors and flaps about wildly, but he tells you which way the wind is blowing.

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