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Govenor Palin Resigns
Posted by polybore • 7/03/09 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
Topics: palin, resignation
Hmm. What is the reason for this?
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/03/AR2009070301738.ht...
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I already commented here: www.blogcatalog.com/politics/discuss/entry/worst-states-to-govern#comment_1...
I must say, I am also struck by the self-indulgent tone and rambling nature of her press conference. Together with Sanford, I am wondering what kind of leaders Americans have chosen for themselves. Why is self-indulgence the new thing for leaders? Whatever happened to selflessness?-
Yep noticed that after starting this. Did check discussion titles.
If polybore were a cynic then one might be inclined to think that perhaps there is a skeleton in the closet and the closet door is soon to open. If not it seems she was not as tough as she made out to be, which is a bit odd, never figured her for a quitter. -
On NPR someone pointed out that she quit a position overseeing Alaskan energy, because she ostensibly had trouble with someone else's ethics. In so doing, she was able to cast herself as an outsider and run for Governor. It could be that she is more comfortable as an outsider, and wants time to brand herself in this way.
And maybe she needs to crack open a few books before making another attempt at politics on the national stage.
I still can't get over the craziness of her press conference, though. She and Sanford would make a great team of loonies. -
The strangeness of her press conference might indicate some skeletons in her closet that are about to be revealed, but it also comports with her character, which seemed to reflect what I saw in a high school movie some years back called "Mean Girls."
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Maybe she could debate with Obama in one of the "57" states...
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Maybe her kids were tired of being dragged through the mud (I'm thinking the one "hell yeah!" might be a clue) and she may have figured out that she's not nearly as competent as she thought she was.
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Don't count on her self-knowledge reaching that far.
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Ouch
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I just saw a cartoon on Netrightdaily - seems as though they are blaming the media and leftist bloggers for destroying her family. *rolls eyes*.
The cartoon called 360 degree coverage shows wolves all around her with labels on them - one says media, but to make the point clear, all of the other wolves wore the names of "left leaning" media outlets and pundits. (and those were the only wolves - so apparently, the media did her in, but one wolf just didn't look as good as a pack of them)
No mention of her own party turning on her, though. *sigh* -
Yes, this would work well for her. The "victim" who will protect her young and then seek vengeance for all good "real" Americans everywhere. A certain segment of this country will lap it up. Fortunately, that segment is a minority.
Regarding self-knowledge, I made that comment, because she thought nothing of running for VP in the first place, and while she was running, she didn't feel the need to actually study for her interviews. -
Anok, maybe you might think how you would feel being in a similar position and having the idea that your child, Punky is fair game for attacks. It might make me want to step down, as well. As to why she did it, time will tell.
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Chuck Todd suggested she may go out on the speaking circuit where she could earn 100s of thousands of dollars per speech, or perhaps get her own talk show. Still, the people elected her to govern Alaska and unless there's a good reason for her resigning, she's letting her state down.-
That's a good point. Resigning on a whim is clearly not the way to show how one handles obligations and responsibility.
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With all those kids, cashing in might not be a bad idea. Her husband doesn't make much money, does he? But how will she cash in? I think she still has political ambitions.
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I just read Palin's resignation speech. That's woman is totally nuts!
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Watch or listen for the full effect of craziness.
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I just listened to it - wow LOL.
If I had to take a guess, I would say it almost sounds as if someone "asked" her to leave office - my understanding is that her politics and actions (ethics) have been called into question even more so since the election, perhaps some damage control was needed. Further that, maybe her whole "new direction" bit was her, making a non threat-threat that she won't go away so quietly as they hoped she would.
How much you wanna bet that she starts some grass roots movement against Obama (did you hear the digs she was making?) and then tries to run for president or VP or some other high political office on her own steam? -
What makes me feel wonder, is that she was born in 1964, Mark Sanford in 1960, and I was born in between. Is this apparent self-indulgence a peculiarity of my generation? I thought the boomers were all about self-realization, getting in touch with their feelings, and so on. What the hell is going on with these two?
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My mom is pretty self indulgent. So is my step-father. (both early baby boomers) Maybe you're on to something
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Obama was born in 1961. Baby boomers come in all forms.
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I was actually thinking of us as post-Boomer, though I don't know what to call us. I feel like we're the children of the Boomers.
But yeah, there are different stripes. I'm just wondering if this is only about personalities, or if there is common cultural trait making itself felt. -
Palin was at the tail end of the baby boomers. Baby boomer were born between 1946 and 1964. I was born in the peak year: 1957.
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Hmmm, maybe we need to revise that term, insofar as it encompasses more than one generation.
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"Obama was born in 1961. Baby boomers come in all forms." Yeah, he isn't self indulgent at all.
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2372287.ece
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1168940/Obamas-fly-chef-860-mile...
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I'd write something original but I'm whipping up something for a picnic this evening. This is a good, brief post, and I think it's not far off.
Funny too.
apostate.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/palins-plan/-
That is funny.
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I actually feel kind of sorry for her - well, almost. She got in the political show ring and proved to be in way over head. If she has recognized that (a point that's open to question), then admitting it and turning the helm over to someone who may be a bit more stable is to her credit.
But that's as much benefit of the doubt as I'm going to give her! She probably has something up her sleeve, but what it is, is anybody's guess.
And for those who want to float the Palin/Joe Plumber or whatever idea for 2012 (even as joke), here's what we're gonna call her if that nightmare scenario should come to pass:
BAILIN' PALIN!
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- I'm a cynic. I don't feel sorry for her at all. I don't believe that we can color her "gone" from the political scene forevermore. Who kniws? She may be among the number of those failed politicians that rise again. I also don't believe that she has made this decision based on the blah, blah, blah she articulated in the videos. I suspect there may be reasons that we have yet to become aware of.
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Another Politico article full of tea leaf readings: www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24507.html. Some have her committing political suicide and others see it as brilliant. One thing is sure. We should expect to hear a lot of her as she earns money for speaking engagements and a book (which no way is she going to actually write herself). I would assume there is some urgency in the matter, since there is no guarantee that her brand's value will remain high.
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Yes, good thing she didn't get VP. I mean with Biden being such a brain trust and all...
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She was a moron not fit to govern her hairbrush, much less a state.
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I think she resigned so she can actually say what she wants to to the media. No holds bar now. -
I niether cared for Palin's personality or politics, but I indeed her reason for resigning (that she couldn't AFFORD to be governor any longer) is ginuine, it spells trouble for American democracy.
It need hardly be said that the least monied class of society need not apply to any high level public office, but when all but those wealthy enough to afford infinite legal expenses are excluded de facto from the process, we are an oligarchy
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If that's what is motivating her, this would be a very interesting case indeed—unless there was something to those allegations.
There are examples of politicians without money. Biden is one of them. (Yeah, he has a lot more than most working stiffs, but that's not the point.)
The question of means is an interesting one. Some states in Europe used to believe that professional politicians were corruptible and only those of means should hold office. As a consequence, they made parliamentary work unpaid. I don't know how this worked across the board, but I"ve run into it in various histories of Europe in the nineteenth century. Course, the opposite argument was that these qualifications kept those of no means out, which was the point.
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Well certainly there is an argument that the monied elite are better suited to serve--and indeed that is the Burkean argument. To a certain extent, the voting body observes this anyway, though it seems to be most prevelent in places (like W. Virginia, Texas, and Florida) where most of the populace has had no liberal higher education or is steeped in religious royalist traditions (what with their Rockefellers and Bushes and such)
that being said, if taken to an absolute, it leads to a governing body that is out of touch.
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It does seem like some public servants (Clinton comes to mind) were able to avail themselves of a legal defense fund, while still in office. Not sure of the legalities under Alaska law.
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Well, here's one thing Palin is up to besides being a Facebook troll: having her PAC give out money to GOP candidates. www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26632.html
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This leadership PAC process seems to be just a loophole exploited to get around campaign finance regulations. Pretty sickening to me that potential presidential candidates exploit such a process. -
wonder if there is any connection with The Hon. Robert L. Livingston and Libyan oil
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This PAC thing is new to polybore. Would it be fair to say it is a way for a future presidential candidates to raise cash and travel the country under the guise of being a general fund-raiser for political candidates at all levels of a particular party?
Thus, as xmarks says, avoiding the campaign finance regulations?-
Our laws are lax, but not that lax.
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Explain please mark?
The article seemed to highly suggest that with was a work around for potential presidential candidates. -
I was thinking of the actual election campaign, when other laws kick in. You might be right about this loophole for those exploring a run.
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i doubt that anyone who gave money to Palin would mind contributing to Bachman. They are two nuts in a shell
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Those two could start their own reality show to compete for craziest person on the planet.
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And it could be hosted by that wonderfully wacky guy, Keith Overbite. Maybe co-hosted by Rachael Madcow and the announcer could be Joe Biden. Then most of the "crazies" would be represented.
Of course mark, I would strongly petition them to allow you appear as special lefty blogger dude. -
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Republicans urged her to stay home and study policy if she wanted to continue to up her career in politics. So she quits her job and gets in front of a bunch of cameras... moron.-
I think that it is easy to fall into the left's perception of Palin. However, I would wonder how you know what and which Repubs spoke with her and told her what to do.
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I'm fairly pragmatic; right on some issues, left on others. I would love to see any evidence that Palin isn't under qualified and over hyped.
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