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Michigans Gov. Granholm on Palin

Posted by monkeysuit • 10/28/08 • Subscribe to this Discussion [RSS] • Report This Topic
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You are not going to believe this Michigan's Gov. Granholm a Democrat says Palin is qulified just not ready to be President. I almost fell out of my chair I guess McCain's campaign didn't see it I would be all over that if I were them. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself

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10/28/08

clioandme

Gov. Granholm doesn't say what you say she says. First, she says that she had initially thought Palin was qualified but not quite ready, but that Palin's performance has made her look even worse, made people even more weary of Palin. Second, Granholm says "a governor" is qualified, a generic governor, in other words, but there is no way thee current governor of Alaska is ready.

Now don't get me wrong. I would love it if McCain made use of this footage. Only thing is, he'd come out looking even worse.

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1. 10/28/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  Yes but saying just because a governor is a governor makes them qualified doesn't clearly define her position. She could have clearly stated she isn't qualified and she didn't say that.
  
  And McCain could cut it out to make it look anyway he wants like politicians do.
2. 10/28/08
  
  clioandme
  
  She gave the answer she needed to give. Remember, she's a governor herself, and something like a modicum of professional courtesy is still necessary.
10/29/08

monkeysuit

Well I don't think the fact that she is a governor makes her qualified. She has only been governor for two years. So the arguement could be she isn't qualified because she has only been gov. two years not that governors are qualified she just isn't ready.

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10/29/08

Anok

I don't see how her response is very different than that of a multitude of others responses.

Many people feel that terms spent as a governor gives the executive experience needed for a political office such as VP, but that a new governor, or still inexperienced governor will not be ready for a larger responsibility of a higher office.

Think of it like a new mom - mother? Yes...experienced mother? Not yet.

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1. 10/29/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  I got it she needs more experience. But I think the Obama Campaign and other supporters say she isn't qualified. Not to mention the several questions McCain has had to answer about it. There is a difference I would agree she isn't experinced enough but she is qualified. There have been a lot of misleading talk on both sides about qualifications and experience. I will use your example the new mom - mother? yes inexperinced mom - bad mom? no. Same thing is true with Obama and his experience. He doesn't have a lot but it doesn't mean he will do a bad job.
  
  I have noticed on here no matter if you have a good point or not if it isn't inline with the other persons particular political preference then they become very defensive. I have a hard time understanding why that is.
2. 10/29/08
  
  Anok
  
  Like RR pointed out below - I think it depends on your definition of qualifications.
  
  I do believe that experience plays a part in qualifications, of course you need to meet other obligations as well. Part of that means knowing what your job entails, and Palin has not met that qualification yet.
  
  I think it's a careful line to draw when one talks about experience with Obama - because neither Obama or McCain have the "executive experience" that is often talked about with Palin - or any governor. Both are senators. And while McCain has been a senator for much longer (how could he not have been, honestly?) Obama does have years upon years of experience in that regard.
  
  I believe both Obama and McCain posses the qualifications and experience to run for, and fulfill the position of president. I just disagree with many as to which one will do a better job
  
  As for touting Palin's experience as a sign of readiness - up against Obama's experience - again, you're going to have to look at the different areas of experience and see if it enables them to effectively and appropriately act in their (not yet established) position.
  
  Palin has very little government experience overall, and has no experience on the national level.
  
  Obama has more experience in government over all compared to Palin, and has more experience on the national level.
  
  Palin required assistance to fulfill her her duties as governor,
  
  Obama has not as a senator.
  
  Obama has two degrees that directly pertain to his ability to be the president - political science and constitutional law,
  
  Palin has a varied education, ending in journalism.
  
  Obama has dealt with, initiated, submitted, and voted on national legislation as well as state based legislation for many years,
  
  Palin has little experience with this on a state level, and no experience with it on a national level. (I bring this up because working with the house and senate is a large part of the job, and experience with that is handy)
  
  Obama has clear knowledge on what his job entails, Palin clearly does not (via some of her answers in debates and elsewhere).
  
  There is more - but like I said - she meets basic qualifications but is no where near ready.
3. 10/29/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  Yeah I understand all of that and I do get it. They haven't been saying she is qualified and not ready they simply have said she isn't qualified. I agree with what Michigans Gov. said I just don't think its inline with what other democrats have said.
4. 10/29/08
  
  Anok
  
  I think people are using "qualified" and "ready" interchangeably. I know I do it.
10/29/08

RuinousRight

"She(Palin) is qualified just not ready."

Qualified: U.S. citizen, U.S. Governor

Readiness: Understanding the role of a V.P. and who/what that position oversees. Understanding the ability to see Russia from Alaska is not foreign policy experience. Understanding that you shouldn't use personal email accounts to discuss government business. Understanding that you shouldn't abuse your political powers for personal beefs. Understanding law, policy and how the federal government works better, etc.

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1. 10/29/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  The point of this is it has been said that she is not qualified. And she is, I am not going to argue her experience that is not what this is about. And all of these things you list is just that a list it means nothing all politicians make similar mistakes and are misinformed and uneducated about things. They all have strengths and weaknesses. They are after all human.
10/29/08

MidwestMom

Is anyone missing the fact that Granholm herself may be envisioning a future as a national candidate?

I would argue that her comments on Palin are made with that potential future in mind. As a Governor and a woman, it would not bode well for Granholm if she were to condemn Sarah Palin too harshly -- in this day and age, those types of comments can be YouTube'd to come back and bite her later on.

Personally, I think Granholm botched the Michigan Primary so badly, it will be a very long time before her party looks to her as a national candidate.

Still, a girl can dream, can't she?

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1. 10/29/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  Yeah I get that but it still goes against her parties attacks and is worth pointing out. Maybe they should've asked a man?
2. 10/29/08
  
  MidwestMom
  
  It's not that they should have asked a man, you big gorilla.
  
  It's that you have to understand a politician's response to a question in terms of "what is best for [enter politician's name here]."
  
  Politicians are particularly cagey creatures. Much like a man who wears a gorilla suit when it's not halloweeen...
3. 10/29/08
  
  monkeysuit
  
  Yes I get that. But when do you just ramble on with out answering it and when do you answer it going against your own parties attack. And it will be in a couple of days so get those bananas ready I will be ringing your doorbell.