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To all that consistently state that OBAMA has not done anything and he has no record. To all that say Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden ... errrr ummm AND McCain here are some facts for you!!!!!
You may not agree with what he has done, but he has done some good things, just like Palin and Biden and McCain have done.... right?

unastronaut.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/some-of-barack-obamas-accomplishments/

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  1. GallFire
    Wow, and the one thing they yell about Palin not having, foreign experience, where is that there?
    And how many of those were his introductions - and not just sponsoring a bill someone else put the work into?
    Show me anything substantial he has introduced.
    And btw, sponsoring bills is not executive experience, there is no denying, Palin is the only one of the bunch with any - even if it is not much.
    1. gmoney
      So what you are saying is that is not enough, you want more right. Go figure..... it will never be enough.
    2. GallFire
      When he has actually done something besides vote yes, no, or present on the issues, yes. I can vote yes or no on every issue, and don't even need "present", does that make me qualified to be president?
      When he has been a leader on issues. When he has run something. When he has actually had to work with people outside of his own party to bring about change, then it will be enough.
    3. Anok
      Here are 129 bills he introduced.

      thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery

      Honestly people, it's not that hard to look up.
    4. GallFire
      Well, the link you gave is failing - but I did find a couple bills - though definitely not 129...
      And are these bills he "sponsored", or did he truly introduce them as a new idea?
    5. Anok
      Damn Thomas site, hold on:

      You can read them all here, on my blog:

      identitycheck-anok.blogspot.com/2008/09/obamas-credientials.html
    6. GallFire
      Thank you. And, after the first few there are actually quite a few that are at least a bit substantive, and quite a few that are more than just a bit.

      I was actually genuinely interested, and you have shown he passes one of the things I stated he needed to for me to think him experienced enough
  2. beinki
    Obama's accomplishments are extremely thin, and to hear the Dems laud it makes me want to puke, especially in the same breath they say Palin's resume is weak. ha
    1. opinionstreams
      To hear the Republicans attempt to trounce Obama's experience in the same breath they say Palin - a small town mayor with less than two year's experience as Governor of our northernmost state and with no foreign policy experience - is highly qualified to lead a global superpower, makes me want to puke.
  3. opinionstreams
    Her pitiful claim that Barack Obama has no experience wasn't the only lie Palin told last night. Read my latest post. In it, I describe - and debunk - ALL the lies Palin told about Obama's policy positions.

    opinionstreams.com/blog/?p=48
    1. gmoney
      I am sure that many will spin your words, but a great piece, I am adding you to my blogroll when I get a moment. You have skills
    2. GallFire
      Actually, I think some of that is probably accurate, though a lot is your opinion when you say she is lying.
      Like in Iraq - it is your opinion that pulling out will strengthen us - doesn't mean she is lying when she says the opposite

      I just briefly went through the list, but really, I can debunk a lot of those just from a quick glance. There are a few I can't. No politician is perfect, and you know what, Obama has lied just as much, or more. Which, I know, is no excuse, but if someone wants to talk about hypocrisy...
    3. beinki
      you talk a good talk but Obama is sure to flip and flop again and again depending on the polls so hang on to your post as I'm sure it will become relevant again real soon.
  4. Theresa111
    Here you go.

    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

    These are opinions of Non-BlogCatalog Members.
    1. opinionstreams
      @mike - If you want to be "fair and balanced", why don't you also look up the top McCain flip-flops?

      I'll get you started:

      www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402805.ht...
      www.politicususa.com/en/Top-5-Flip-Flops
  5. clioandme
    Yeah, the misrepresentations of Obama's records in order to justify the cynical ideological choice of Palin are a problem. I've considered a little bit of this in a long post I did on Palln, but I'm always grateful for more information.

    markstoneman.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/the-case-against-sarah-palin/
  6. gmoney
    No being able to post on the main board is killing me..........
    1. clioandme
      Being able might kill you too. It's a catch 22 thing.
    2. gmoney
      agreed!

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